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Is there now a lack of personal responsibility?

203 replies

niknak1234 · 02/04/2026 14:52

Is there now a lack of personal responsibility?

Another thread inspired me to ask this question.

Now don't get me wrong there have been events over the last few years that have increased the cost of living. COVID, Truss budget, Ukraine/Russia, Iran etc.

Now I am by no means denying they haven't had a big impact, but are people using them to avoid failings in their lives?

OP posts:
Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:06

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 20:04

So if she’s not on benefits , she’s morally superior all of the sudden? Despite the annoying conversations and laziness?😬.

Those are some serious metal gymnastics you’re contorting yourself into there. Hope you warmed up before.

I’m bored. I have no idea what this woman is like!

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:06

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:03

I don’t like lazy people !

I don't like judgemental people who jump to conclusions about people and things they know nothing about .

What is wrong with renting?

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:08

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:02

People who pay their own way at in life are morally superior imo.

What a weird outlook on life.

Allonthesametrain · 02/04/2026 20:10

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 19:29

My friend is severely allergic to shellfish. Epi pen, call an ambulance type of allergy. She ordered a takeaway, was very clear and specific about her allergies. Got all the reassurances and promises. Paid. Got home and luckily emptied the container on a plate rather than eating straight from it (like a lot of people do). Stray shrimp on the plate when she separated it all, because she does take persona responsibility above and beyond just informing the place. She couldn’t eat any of it of course, and if the prawn was smaller, cut up, better hidden she would’ve ended up in hospital. Was she not supposed to complain? Was she not supposed to ask for money back for a meal she couldn’t eat? And if worse happened (especially with her pregnant) should she /her family not take it further?

Of course and that's why I said genuine cases. It's positive that these types of situation are absolutely held accountable. Unfortunately there are too many people who threaten to leave bad reviews and 'sue' because they can.

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:10

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:08

What a weird outlook on life.

You don’t think people should pay their own way in life? Why not? And if not who should pay?

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 20:10

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:06

I’m bored. I have no idea what this woman is like!

You spelled prejudiced wrong.

Crikeyalmighty · 02/04/2026 20:12

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 19:58

And I have no idea if she rents or not? Just pointing out that it is so much easier to play the system if one rents because then you can claim uc, work minimal hours, claim dla and ca for your children without ‘ever’ having the worry of paying a mortgage. Are you saying people like this don’t exist?

I rent a very nice house in a posh area- way more than many pay on mortgage and it’s for all kinds of reasons - I can quite assure you I have the worry of paying the rent - just as much as I would a mortgage as we are reasonably high earners so entitled to zilch - do not presume everyone renting is claiming benefits - vast amounts aren’t - circumstances can make it necessary in certain parts of the country- high house prices, self employment, divorce, a previous business failure, choice to live in an area and house you like etc etc -

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:13

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 20:10

You spelled prejudiced wrong.

The woman sits and plays on her phone at work and blames her adhd!

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:14

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:10

You don’t think people should pay their own way in life? Why not? And if not who should pay?

What is wrong with renting?

Charlize43 · 02/04/2026 20:14

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 19:45

Speak to your boss about her lack of work! She’s taking the piss! I imagine she paid for her diagnosis which may or may not be genuine? It’s still not an excuse for not completing the role she is being paid for? Is it public service or a private company ?
I guarantee she’ll be on several online adhd support pages getting all the info necessary to get her children diagnosed with whatever she can. I’d be 99% certain she’s renting her property too because playing the system only really works when you take absolutely no responsibility for yourself at all.

I wouldn't do that. One of the great things about being a temp is you get to walk away. I'm just there to do my job to the best of my ability, get paid and leave when the contract is over.

She's not an unpleasant person. She's certainly chatty!

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:15

Crikeyalmighty · 02/04/2026 20:12

I rent a very nice house in a posh area- way more than many pay on mortgage and it’s for all kinds of reasons - I can quite assure you I have the worry of paying the rent - just as much as I would a mortgage as we are reasonably high earners so entitled to zilch - do not presume everyone renting is claiming benefits - vast amounts aren’t - circumstances can make it necessary in certain parts of the country- high house prices, self employment, divorce, a previous business failure, choice to live in an area and house you like etc etc -

Of course not everyone renting is on benefits. Where did I say they were? I said it was easier to play the system for a longer period of time if you rent.

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:15

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:13

The woman sits and plays on her phone at work and blames her adhd!

What do you think the first two letters of ADHD mean?

Everyone has phones now. Before then, she would be doodling or fiddling.

Confused19831983 · 02/04/2026 20:17

JHound · 02/04/2026 15:32

What does that have to do with personal responsibility?!

And where is the evidence that “100 years ago schools would have been run by locals”? Are people simply not working schools because they have other jobs they are doing. That’s not a lack of personal responsibility.

Edited

Unlike you I enjoyed reading this post and found it insightful.
Disempowerment is similar to having a lack of personal responsibility.
The poster isn’t criticising anyone, they’re sympathising with the villagers’ situation.

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:20

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:15

What do you think the first two letters of ADHD mean?

Everyone has phones now. Before then, she would be doodling or fiddling.

I know exactly what it stands for as I suffer myself. It’s not an excuse not to complete the work I’m paid to do. I imagine the 28 children I teach would have something to say as would their parents if I casually sat at my desk and played on my phone because you know ‘adhd ‘! Might try it after the Easter holidays! What do you think would happen ?

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:21

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:20

I know exactly what it stands for as I suffer myself. It’s not an excuse not to complete the work I’m paid to do. I imagine the 28 children I teach would have something to say as would their parents if I casually sat at my desk and played on my phone because you know ‘adhd ‘! Might try it after the Easter holidays! What do you think would happen ?

Ah, you paid for a diagnosis then.

SillySloth · 02/04/2026 20:23

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:20

I know exactly what it stands for as I suffer myself. It’s not an excuse not to complete the work I’m paid to do. I imagine the 28 children I teach would have something to say as would their parents if I casually sat at my desk and played on my phone because you know ‘adhd ‘! Might try it after the Easter holidays! What do you think would happen ?

I have ADHD (apparently) and what is very clear is that people experience it differently and have different issues. I cannot comment upon you or this other lady you are referring to, but there are things I struggle with that someone else won’t and vice versa, it’s not a one size fits all which is why it’s so complicated.

Crikeyalmighty · 02/04/2026 20:23

Choosos · 02/04/2026 19:13

Except they did, they had free school meals and free school milk and benefits when these elders children were young. Council houses given out like candy unlike now. Go back further and you have people having ten kids and maybe they weren’t expecting the state to pay but they just let their ten kids live a miserable overcrowded existence, hardly responsible is it?

I agree with that - there were lots of people having big families, council houses and claiming at various points too - one big difference is there were lots of council houses to be had meaning any subsidies were moderate - these days the state is having to pay high amounts to people to pay private landlords/ but to let merchants ( outside of very cheap areas) to keep many people housed at all-

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:24

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:21

Ah, you paid for a diagnosis then.

I did not! Many years of poor mental health. Being the black sheep of the family. Troubled teenage years and wanting to die. Severe Post natal depression finally got me the help I needed. Any other questions ?

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:25

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:24

I did not! Many years of poor mental health. Being the black sheep of the family. Troubled teenage years and wanting to die. Severe Post natal depression finally got me the help I needed. Any other questions ?

Assumptions hurt, don't they.

Yes. What is wrong with renting?

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:27

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:25

Assumptions hurt, don't they.

Yes. What is wrong with renting?

The difference is I continue to do the job I’m paid to do. This lady does not ! Nothing wrong with renting as long as you pay your own rent.

Crikeyalmighty · 02/04/2026 20:28

SillySloth · 02/04/2026 20:23

I have ADHD (apparently) and what is very clear is that people experience it differently and have different issues. I cannot comment upon you or this other lady you are referring to, but there are things I struggle with that someone else won’t and vice versa, it’s not a one size fits all which is why it’s so complicated.

Edited

Indeed - my 27 year old son hasADHD, medically diagnosed at 20, although in all fairness he did have some aspects that were somewhat odd when much younger- he works full time in tech, is fantastic with clients and is known as a seriously hard worker . However a couple of times in the 11 years he’s worked he has needed 4 days off as became mentally overwhelmed - he’s a very deep thinker , definitely not lazy ,

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:28

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:27

The difference is I continue to do the job I’m paid to do. This lady does not ! Nothing wrong with renting as long as you pay your own rent.

No, you made a load of assumptions about the lady in the PP, and then got in a strop when I made one about you.
Double standards.

The lady in the PP could well have had the same background that led to her diagnosis as you.

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:29

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:28

No, you made a load of assumptions about the lady in the PP, and then got in a strop when I made one about you.
Double standards.

The lady in the PP could well have had the same background that led to her diagnosis as you.

She could indeed. Why does she not do the work she is paid to do ?

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:31

Do you think I could sit and play on my phone too in full view of a class of 9 year olds? And if not why not ?

XenoBitch · 02/04/2026 20:33

Bollixtothat · 02/04/2026 20:31

Do you think I could sit and play on my phone too in full view of a class of 9 year olds? And if not why not ?

What job does she do?