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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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borntobequiet · 29/03/2026 11:59

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Are you nuts?

Or is this an attempt to demonstrate the ridiculous position one arrives at when one falls for this nonsense?

MrTiddlesTheCat · 29/03/2026 12:00

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Guiding decided to stay a single sex organisation for very good reasons. Some UK girls are only able to attend because it's just girls. Some countries only allow girlguiding to exist because it's a single sex organisation. Making it mixed sex would have a massive impact on girls across the world.

Coconutter24 · 29/03/2026 12:00

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Why can’t the trans girl join scouts? Brownies has been all girls for over 110 years, why should that change?

SuzyFandango · 29/03/2026 12:00

I think perhaps the parents should have been very clear with their little boy that he's a boy, right from the very start.

This.

starrynight009 · 29/03/2026 12:01

I feel for the child (if it's true). Choosing Scouts from the beginning would have helped avoid some of these issues. Also, they clearly didn't tell him in an appropriate way.

My daughter is in Rainbows specifically because it’s a girls-only space. Although she gets on well with boys at school, it’s obvious how they dominate in shared environments. I wanted her to have a space where that isn’t the case. I personally don't want them to go mixed sex like the Scouts.

youbizarrehorse · 29/03/2026 12:01

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Girls don’t have penises. I can’t believe anyone could type a sentence such as yours without having to do some serious brain cartwheels to get there. Unless of course, you just fancied a bun fight on a quiet Sunday morning …

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/03/2026 12:01

How on earth at 6 does a child state they are born into the wrong body? I don’t know whether it is the strong gender stereotypes that have re-emerged over the last decade or a narcissistic desire to be special.

ainsleysanob · 29/03/2026 12:01

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:51

Should we move towards a situation like the Greens and Zack Polanski are advocating where trans women are legally recognised as women, and have access to all ‘female’ spaces?

Alternatively, all spaces could simply be made mixed gender.

This would blunt the impact of transphobia.

I think we should move towards a situation where people like you are made to resit Biology at school. Be made to spend a year working in rape crisis centres, another year coaching a girls gymnastics team and then a boys one to see the difference, and just generally not be allowed to be near children until you can see the damage people like you cause.

Marieb19 · 29/03/2026 12:01

This sounds like a hundred other fictional "Trans" stories. I do not beleive it. If this story was true, I'd have huge sympathy for this child, for having such dysfunctional, self absorbed parents, who would inflict such misery their 6 year old son.

Traxanos · 29/03/2026 12:01

It’s a parenting issue. When you have a boy aged 6 why would you encourage them to believe they’re a girl?

Surely this is emotional and psychological abuse on a huge scale ?

The mind boggles !

Foreverautumnagain · 29/03/2026 12:01

Having seen a very young child being adamant they are the opposite sex I sympathise fully with this family. They have a terrible situation to deal with every single day and it doesn't help at all having judgemental ignoramuses suggesting they are bad parents. The majority of the world is already against them, why make it harder by levelling uneducated criticism at them when they are trying to do their best for their child?

The child I knew was stating they were the opposite sex from as soon as they were able to speak. They are now late teens and it's quite clear it wasn't a fad or a protest of some sort. They have had a terrible time through no fault of their own. Their parents and wider family have been extremely strong and faced the opposition, the backlash and immense pressure from every quarter with dignity and love for their child.

Squirrelsnut · 29/03/2026 12:01

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Six year old boys, surely? Girls don't have penises.

MacchiatoMavis · 29/03/2026 12:02

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

Can anybody make sense of this for me please? Never read such absolute garbage in all my years.

Limpet1 · 29/03/2026 12:02

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

have you heard the level of brainwashing.

a 6 year old GIRL cutting off their penis!! Madness

lcakethereforeIam · 29/03/2026 12:02

Nrtft but he's being totally unreasonable. He should wait until the Doctors say he's old enough to have his penis cut off.

Although, why get upset about him trying to do it himself at six though? It's what lies in the future for this child if his trans allies have their way. It's pointless being squeamish about it. Blockers, wrong sex hormones then surgery. Obviously the blockers will have left him with a micro-penis. There might not be enough... material to skin and invert to make a deep enough hole. This will entail using part of his intestine to make up the lack. If he's lucky he'll only require one or two revisions and won't mind being rendered sterile, anorgasmic or incontinent. Having to dilate every day to keep the hole open is only painful, I believe, for a little while. I hope his friends from Rainbows are still around. They may have got on with the business of growing up in healthy bodies, having relationships, families, the normal stuff.

Lavender14 · 29/03/2026 12:02

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:51

Should we move towards a situation like the Greens and Zack Polanski are advocating where trans women are legally recognised as women, and have access to all ‘female’ spaces?

Alternatively, all spaces could simply be made mixed gender.

This would blunt the impact of transphobia.

But we need truly female only spaces to protect vulnerable women and girls op.

I think the difficulty here is that you've two essentially minority groups both of which have their own distinct vulnerabilities and both of whom need safe spaces and protection. But those needs are in contradiction because of the nature of those vulnerabilities. Its not an easy solution by any means but the solution cannot be removing women and girls access to female only safe spaces.

TeflonBoot · 29/03/2026 12:02

This story is absolute bullshit.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/03/2026 12:02

ainsleysanob · 29/03/2026 12:01

I think we should move towards a situation where people like you are made to resit Biology at school. Be made to spend a year working in rape crisis centres, another year coaching a girls gymnastics team and then a boys one to see the difference, and just generally not be allowed to be near children until you can see the damage people like you cause.

Well said!

Shitstix · 29/03/2026 12:03

"Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?"

This is like Ricky Gervais's comedy routine.

Little girls dont have a penis. How has society got so fucking crazy.

sharkstale · 29/03/2026 12:04

6 years old? Maybe the parents should have "been honest" a lot sooner and stamped out any delusions that supported him thinking he's a girl in the first place.

Sgreenpy · 29/03/2026 12:04

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:27

Zoe Williams has argued that a sensible solution to all of this would be to make the Brownies mixed gender like the Scouts.

Wouldn't this be more sensible than making six year old girls so distressed that they attempt to cut off their penis?

A six year old girl doesnt have a penis to cut off. A six year old child with a penis is a boy.

DarmokAndJaladAtTenagra · 29/03/2026 12:04

ainsleysanob · 29/03/2026 12:01

I think we should move towards a situation where people like you are made to resit Biology at school. Be made to spend a year working in rape crisis centres, another year coaching a girls gymnastics team and then a boys one to see the difference, and just generally not be allowed to be near children until you can see the damage people like you cause.

Oh now this is a brilliant idea.

Spidey66 · 29/03/2026 12:05

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 29/03/2026 11:18

Why is a 6 year old even aware of these things?

Maybe he would decide to transition as an adult.
Maybe he's gay.
Maybe he's just a strange child.

But he shouldn't be aware of this stuff at age 6.

My opinion exactly on why children should not be labelled as 'trans'.

WappityWabbit · 29/03/2026 12:05

There’s no such thing as a 6yr old Trans child.

It’s another form of sexual abuse and those parents need prosecuting and the child needs to be taken into care and hopefully adopted by decent parents who will love and nurture him.

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 29/03/2026 12:05

MrsOvertonsWindow · 29/03/2026 11:56

Great thread. Showcasing how hyperbolic transactivism comes up against the reality of responsible, child centred parenting from Mumsnetters, so many of who are actual parents.

For anyone interested in what these dangerous parents are doing to their 6 year old, this is written by a clinical psychologist who details the harms adults do by lying to young children about what sex they really are:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/

This is exactly how things were heading for most sensible parents of young kids up until about 10 years ago! Let toys be toys etc

it’s so depressing that we’ve gone backwards so far.