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Racism in uk

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Charltonstrek · 18/03/2026 10:30

Im finding the level of racism here in the UK to be very unsettling and it seems to be getting worse and im finding it depressing as I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him. Ive mostly witnessed this on social media with some very derogatory comments anybody else or am I too sensitive

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Pineneedlesincarpet · 20/03/2026 07:19

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 20/03/2026 00:21

It’s not a justification for racism though.

It’s increased imo but not as bad as it was in the 70s/80s. In those if someone shouted something h racist I knew I was in my own. But these days it feels different. Others will step in.

Think SM skews things and people post extreme things.

Its not a justification for racism, agreed. But people should be able to speak out about how they feel about the sudden change in the make up of their communities that is not down to people moving here for love, but down to mass immigration. The trouble is that the left have conflated the two and accuse people with perfectly justifiable concerns as being racists.

nomas · 20/03/2026 08:14

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 20/03/2026 00:21

It’s not a justification for racism though.

It’s increased imo but not as bad as it was in the 70s/80s. In those if someone shouted something h racist I knew I was in my own. But these days it feels different. Others will step in.

Think SM skews things and people post extreme things.

I disagree. Bystander mentality is what it’s always been, I rarely see anyone step in, people just watch gormlessly like it’s entertainment.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 20/03/2026 08:17

nomas · 20/03/2026 08:14

I disagree. Bystander mentality is what it’s always been, I rarely see anyone step in, people just watch gormlessly like it’s entertainment.

When you are racially abused? Im sorry to hear that.

inamarina · 20/03/2026 09:17

nomas · 20/03/2026 08:14

I disagree. Bystander mentality is what it’s always been, I rarely see anyone step in, people just watch gormlessly like it’s entertainment.

You frequently see people being racially abused? In real life?
I’m sure it happens, it’s just not something one sees a lot in one’s everyday life.
Or do you mean online? Social media can certainly be a cesspit.

5MinuteArgument · 20/03/2026 09:36

thestudio · 19/03/2026 19:40

It feels to me (born early 60s London) that it's not as widespread or as open - but i do feel that there's a kind of meanness to it now which wasn't so much to the fore then.

I remember seeing fly posters showing black people as muggers and nazi symbol /NFgraffiti often.The National Front / skinheads were marching in London - they were openly racist against black and brown people, they didn't give a fuck about hiding it. But they were generally considered by people who were in the middle - anyone from the upper working class up - to be what everyone called Yobboes (sp?). 'Normal' people generally tutted about it, it was associated with violence and people are generally anti-violence because it's destabilising. So it wasn't necessarily that everyone was all peace and love - they just didn't like yobboes or violence.

I was in two worlds in my twenties - the posh world would happily say 'Lovely guy, but of course, he's a y*d' and Jews weren't allowed in their gentlemen's clubs/stockbroker companies (whatever the word was). I'd been brought up in a literary environment, with the Holocaust discussed often - my idea of what Jewishness was was really informed by the books I read and the films I saw, mostly from New York and the East Coast. Jews were 'cultured' (lol - also racist, looking back) and I was absolutely appalled, but also genuinely astonished, that the English upper classes could be so openly anti-semitic. It's not that I thought everyone felt as I did - I just didn't expect them to not care about looking like bigoted cunts.

In the rapidly gentrifying East London areas that I'm familiar with, there's a really uneasy mixture - very wealthy people living cheek by jowl with, but completely blind to, two communities.

The first is an established but insular immigrant community with values that the wealthy people would be appalled by if they were expressed at one of their dinner parties.

The second is the white working/not-working class, which has partially absorbed some immigration in the sense that women have had kids with men from immigrant communities. Those men may or may not be present in their children's lives, and those children may or may not be acknowledged by the established immigrant community. Either way, the white working class is also fucked off, feels 'left behind', enough to be pretty racist, even if they have or know kids who are mixed race.

It all feels fucked, to be honest. I don't want to be in the gentrified bits, and I don't want to be in the ungentrified bits. I used to yearn for a posh deli where I live - now, to me, it's two sides of the same globalised capitalism coin.

But that's really different from what's going on outside London and other major cities, where some communities have been massively impacted by immigration in its various forms (ie legal, illegal, asylum-based). It's insanity to think that those communities - just as insular in their own way as the London immigrant ones in East London - are not going to notice and push back.

Particularly since there's a really awful paradox in both legal and illegal immigration.The men come first - because they're stronger and if the women came first they would be raped. But those men are men first and foremost, and men rape women. And maybe men who come from conservative cultures believe that women who have agency are fair game, and rape more - maybe not. But single men injected into a new culture are a problem.

Obviously, the rest of the time, white British men are not marching to stop their fellow white British men from raping. If they were, everything would be solved instantly eh.

Of course, white men who do the 'they're raping our women' thing are just angry that someone has stolen their property. They don't give a fuck about raped women. But ... there is a problem when single men are injected into a new culture.

And then, there are the swathes of white english towns that aren't really affected by this in any meaningful sense, but have a general feeling that 'things have gone wrong, these immigrants actively hate us.'

See my earlier post for how we could have insisted on a hierarchy of equality values to present this.

Edited

Yes, agreed, it's important to look at the background and causes of what's going on.

Instead of just, 'yeah, there's more racism and it's all the fault of Farage / Tommy two names / Russian bots / American trolls.'

nomas · 20/03/2026 09:46

Pineneedlesincarpet · 20/03/2026 08:17

When you are racially abused? Im sorry to hear that.

Yes, for me too. Thank you. ❤️

It’s the same when a woman is being harassed by men, people don’t step in.

nomas · 20/03/2026 09:46

inamarina · 20/03/2026 09:17

You frequently see people being racially abused? In real life?
I’m sure it happens, it’s just not something one sees a lot in one’s everyday life.
Or do you mean online? Social media can certainly be a cesspit.

Edited

I didn’t say it happens frequently, but when it does happen, people don’t step in, they just watch.

5MinuteArgument · 20/03/2026 09:47

LoyalMember · 19/03/2026 22:22

The uncontrolled immigration has caused a lot of this. You can't bring in millions of people from completely different cultures and expect everyone just to rub along together.

Absolutely. Mass immigration benefits the ruling class as it brings in cheap labour. Those people tend to cluster in the poorest neighbourhoods. Add in further stresses like the grooming gangs and the authorities turning a blind eye, and the result is community tension.

The only solution the government has is to clamp down on dissent.

LanaDelBoi · 20/03/2026 09:49

Busybeemumm · 18/03/2026 11:46

Where is your evidence for this? We had an MP who compared Muslim women wearing the burka as 'letter boxes' and still went on to be PM. Imagine if something like that was said about Jewish women who wear wigs?!

They are attacked by Muslims not the English/British.

nomas · 20/03/2026 09:51

LanaDelBoi · 20/03/2026 09:49

They are attacked by Muslims not the English/British.

Who was attacked?

LanaDelBoi · 20/03/2026 09:57

5MinuteArgument · 20/03/2026 09:47

Absolutely. Mass immigration benefits the ruling class as it brings in cheap labour. Those people tend to cluster in the poorest neighbourhoods. Add in further stresses like the grooming gangs and the authorities turning a blind eye, and the result is community tension.

The only solution the government has is to clamp down on dissent.

This is a really naive solution. So, don’t do anything about immigration from Afghanistan, Syria and Pakistan (let’s face it, the Chinese from Hong Kong or NHS staff from the Philippines aren’t the problem) and just shut people up? What that does is increase Islamism and destroys freedom of speech… conditions that make this country vulnerable to Islamisation.

FFS, I’m a religious minority from a Muslim majority country and I know what I’m talking about (lived experience), do I have to escape from that religion yet again? By emigrating to Uruguay? The UK is no longer a safe sanctuary from extremism, it is now the HOME of extremist Islam.

Quine0nline · 20/03/2026 10:47

Britain was happy to take in leaders of "opposition" groups in the 1970s. A book, "Londonistain" covered the development of the "come here and preach revolution and opposition in your own country but be nice here". That ended well.

There is a huge growth of anger in the UK, and no doubt the rest of the world affected by global economics and conflict.
Racism, ableism, sexism etc etc - aided and abetted by online incitement and algorithms.
That said, government and councils could have communicated much better with existing communities instead of "were bringing in refugees and you'll Goddam like it or you'll be charged with racism and kicked out of your tenancy" - as happened on the Isle of Bute and parts of Glasgow.

thestudio · 20/03/2026 10:50

Pineneedlesincarpet · 19/03/2026 22:18

Ok I see what you personally mean. That's not quite what the PP said though? She should be clearer in these febrile times IMHO.

I think i was pretty clear.

Tipsowner · 20/03/2026 16:08

Quite a few Muslim majority countries now view the UK as the home of radical Islam. The UAE will not sponsor students to study at UK universities for fear of radicalisation.

Tipsowner · 20/03/2026 16:29

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/20/iran-has-unified-britains-muslims-so-effectively/

Here's the link, but you may hit a paywall.

Wellthisisdifficult · 20/03/2026 20:16

Tipsowner · 20/03/2026 16:08

Quite a few Muslim majority countries now view the UK as the home of radical Islam. The UAE will not sponsor students to study at UK universities for fear of radicalisation.

Yes it appears that correct www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uae-cuts-uk-scholarship-funding-over-extremism-concerns

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