Just get mounjaro!

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The more threads I read, the more and more posters seem to respond with “just get mounjaro” for posters wanting to lose as little as 10 lbs to get within a healthy BMI. More traditional methods of weight loss appear to be out of fashion and as though you’d be foolish to do it the perceived hard way when you can just inject a drug.
I was reading a thread where a poster had a BMI of just over 25 who was told to just get WLIs. What happened to them being for those who are obese?
Is this the way things are going now? Gained a few pounds over Christmas or on holiday? Just inject and don’t worry about it!
Anybody going against the grain of weight loss injections is often accused of being jealous. It’s a bit cult like on some threads as though WLI are the only valid way to lose weight and you’d be foolish to try any other way because “diets don’t work” and just adopting a healthier diet and lifestyle is laughable; a fool’s game and you’ll end up fat again. Well, yes, if you go back to your old habits, just like any method of weight loss.

Just a bit of a rant really on this sunny Tuesday!

Which pharmacies have lowered to 25? I am too heavy for my frame and in mid 40/ls so weight not shifting at all without extreme action which is impossible with busy job and young kids.
I do think there should be some consideration of the stage of life people are in when prescribing these drugs. Someone who has gained a fresher’s 10 pounds at uni age 21 and can lose it with a bit less booze and snacks v a woman in her late 40s in the throes of peri, already being v restrictive and with weight gathering on the waist which is a health factor.

No but it’s not necessarily diabetic either which is what the drugs target.

And the point of the thread is the use of these jabs in people who are not obese.

But in any case, used short term for obesity as a means to an end is one thing but many seem to want to take them indefinitely long after they’ve stopped being obese.

Pharmacies are moving to 25 bmi, I don’t see why people need to do things rhe hard way or it’s about fashion. I find that an odd mindset , losing weight is not about doing things the hard way or fashion.These meds bring a lot of health benefits and incredibly safe, so I can’t see why some people are so angry about them.

if you’re eligible and you want to use them, then go for it. The diet industry has been revoltutionised and it’s easier to accept that, rather than get pissed off it’s happened,

if anyone wants to lose weight, they are free to do so and under any method they chose, it is not up to others to decide or kick off about their choice.

Voy and MedExpress so far I think others too.

I personally would not wish this drug on everyone, I've been losing weight slowly with it and its helped me stick to it, but I do read other threads where people who are only one stone overweight wanting it, and it depresses me. I still have 6 stone to lose so I'm still very much in the category.

But taking them long term also might be absolutely fine if it allows them to stay at a healthy weight. As long as their Doctor is happy it's no concern of anybody else.

Why is it so bothersome to people that they are used and if people stay on them long term? It's literally causing the general public not a single concern. What should cause concern is the strain on the NHS if more and more people become obese.

That’s not quite true, it impacts us all if people suffer severe side effects and need NHS help as a result.

I think it’s marvellous, however, that people who have struggled to lose weight for years are now able to manage it, which will hopefully benefit us all with reduced use of the NHS.

I think you can get wli with lower bmi if you've been on wli already and are maintaining.
You couldn't just be a new customer at a healthy bmi.

It's reassuring that you don't just get kicked off the meds when you get to a healthy weight.

I think a number of pharmacies are now offering to those with a BMI over 25.

Where are you that’s sunny

I'm really torn to be honest.

Obesity is a disease and having taken weight loss medication (when my BMI was 34) has really shown me that. But my disease did not start when my BMI was over 30, it started when it jumped from 21.5, which it had been steadily for over 10 years, to 24 in a matter of months. When my reaction and relationship with food changed almost over night. When the traditional weight loss methods made me miserable, rather than resetting me as they'd always previously done. Would I have benefitted from the medication earlier on? I don't know. Maybe I would have. Maybe it would have prevented some of the obesity related issues. Who knows.

Why does it depress you? Why care so much about others, for me as long as eligible and done healthy then fair enough,

But that's not what is happening. People with diabetes who have been using these drugs for 20 years are not having serious side effects which are impacting the NHS.

Obesity is causing and will continue to cause huge strain to the NHS.

We live in an extremely fat phobic society and this is the main issue, people won't admit it though. For the first time in modern society and medicine, people who struggle with their weight are finally becoming successful at weight loss and society doesn't like it because they dont get to feel better than them anymore. It's uncomfortable but it's true.

That’s completely wrong. Unless you think you know better than my consultant endocrinologist.

He has explained how I, and many others like me, became obese due to hormonal imbalances. The WLI rectified this imbalance and I was able to lose over 40% of my body weight in a year and am now a healthy weight. I had tried countless times to lose weight without medication and failed.

So the MJ is treating the cause of the obesity.

I agree with you. I was just pointing out that if there are any negative health effects from taking these injections it would impact us all from a healthcare demand perspective.

Hopefully, though, it will have the opposite effect and greatly reduce all those health problems associated with obesity. As for people resenting others losing weight in this way, I really can’t understand that kind of mentality, fitter and healthier people benefit society as a whole.

Some are now offering for bmi 25.

They have done the trials, a lot of data is carried over and rhe global health authorities who have extensively examined all the scientific evidence have deemed it safe. Real life data with over 50 million on globally for obesity and not one death due to it, the small amount, about 200 is due to incorrect usage or fake products, verifies the safety,

if you really are concerned then you can start emailing the world health organisation or the mhra and ask them?

Everyone is accepted on application. Then a pharmacist reviews and it’s either approved or rejected, and money refunded. Nothing is being told from the application,

Well they do get to feel better than those using WLI by constantly going on about how terrible WLI's are 😉

The fat body is public property isn't it. As the owner of one it's fucking depressing. I don't rail about people who use nicotine gum or vapes to give up smoking. I don't tell people they're cheating with their mental health because they go to a therapist or take anti depressants. I don't tell you you're disgusting because you drink every day or that you should just drink more water and you wouldn't get a headache rather than take a paracetamol. Yet somehow my body and my medical choices are completely free to comment on because I'm fat.

I don't think WLI are the wonder drug they're being peddled as - nothing is that good. I'm on them and they're sort of working but the experience of being in them is not all that pleasant. But also: it's literally none of your business what I do.

I wish there was a laughing emoji option to press 😂

Christ – settle down. There is no 'one' cause of obesity. I'm not even referring jabs for obese people, I'm referring to jabs for non-obese people – as is the subject of the thread. Refrain from being so unnecessarily indignant.

That should be illegal

@TheSunjustcameout Do you mean all off licence prescribing should be illegal, or just specifically in relation to WLI?

The pharmacies that do this are regulated by the GPhC and/or the CQC, and will be expected to justify any prescribing decision for people with a BMI lower than the MHRA prescribing guidelines, when they are next inspected. I personally don't think this is the right approach from these pharmacies, but they are not just handing out medication to anyone who asks with no checks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo

I don’t have to take them so it’s not my problem.