Just get mounjaro!

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The more threads I read, the more and more posters seem to respond with “just get mounjaro” for posters wanting to lose as little as 10 lbs to get within a healthy BMI. More traditional methods of weight loss appear to be out of fashion and as though you’d be foolish to do it the perceived hard way when you can just inject a drug.
I was reading a thread where a poster had a BMI of just over 25 who was told to just get WLIs. What happened to them being for those who are obese?
Is this the way things are going now? Gained a few pounds over Christmas or on holiday? Just inject and don’t worry about it!
Anybody going against the grain of weight loss injections is often accused of being jealous. It’s a bit cult like on some threads as though WLI are the only valid way to lose weight and you’d be foolish to try any other way because “diets don’t work” and just adopting a healthier diet and lifestyle is laughable; a fool’s game and you’ll end up fat again. Well, yes, if you go back to your old habits, just like any method of weight loss.

Just a bit of a rant really on this sunny Tuesday!

I’m torn because I get frequent headaches probably due to lots of screen use. I don’t look to change my lifestyle to a job where I can spend more time away from a computer do I. I just take paracetamol and get on with my chosen life.

Gym membership is much cheaper than MJ! And you don't need organic food to lose weight!

It's far cheaper to do traditional diets than WLI but we also know that they do not work long term either as they don't address the root cause of the disease, only managed some of the symptoms.

100%

I think WLI are a game changer for significantly overweight people and a wonderful thing for the right people.

What makes me uncomfortable is seeing social media content of people who appear slimmer than I am (I’m a healthy runner with a BMI of 23 - not skinny but not overweight) using WLI to achieve a body type which is probably unrealistic for them and setting themselves up for lifetime of significant restriction and disordered eating. Being unrealistically lean is again becoming normalised and I don’t see this as a positive thing. I think it will fuel eating disorders

My gym membership is £160 a month.. I spend a fortune on healthy food. I am pretty sure my Wegovy friends are quids in and much, much thinner than me.

I think unless you're absolutely all over Mumsnet you're not going to see the kind of posts the OP is referring to. You likely don't click onto threads that don't relate to you.
My BMI is 25.3, so overweight but not massively. I would to lose half a stone and clicking onto threads that resonate with me I have certainly seen recommendations for people to get WLI.
Have I considered it, yes? Will I do it, probably not.

The death certificate (seen by the BBC) lists multiple organ failure, septic shock, pancreatitis as immediate CoD – and "the use of prescribed tirzepatide" is recorded as a contributing factor.

She wasn’t “very unwell” before she took the jab. The only underlying issue was gallstones and she potentially should have been scanned for them prior. But gallstones in middle-aged women are common (4 Fs), so she won’t be the only woman with gallstones taking jabs.

Oh, that's interesting. It only came up with a 6 month option for me. I'll have to go back and re-exam the T&Cs. I've been losing and gaining this stone for the last 20 years.

But you don't have to send £160 on gym membership. I'm sure you like your gym but it's not the £160 that gets you results. When I was paying £16 a month I was the fittest I've ever been, paying 10 times that wouldn't have made me 10 x fitter.

Eating disorders are about mental health issues, I felt this was common knowledge.

The more i try to “eat less and do more” the more fed up I feel. Im seriously considering it

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"this a new use so I can understand people saying the long term effects are not known when used for weight loss instead of diabetes"

I find it difficult to believe that the body knows the purpose for which you are using it, and alters its reactions accordingly.

It’s been a few years for me as well. I run, lift heavy weights, track every morsel that goes into my mouth and it’s still refusing to shift. I even bought one of those magic mirrors to get more workouts in!

That's because weight loss is known to increase the risk of gallstones (my cousin got gall stones from losing 10 stone on a diet, pre weight loss injections), her surgeon said it's really common after big weight loss.

WLI also increase the risk of pancreatitis. It's a known risk. Pancreatitis is pretty rare generally though, so a slight increased risk isn't something most people need to be concerned about.

Another of those threads. If WLI are being 'prescribed' for people described in this thread the issue are not WLI but pharmacies who apparently prescribe to people without proper checks. Yes, these checks are possible.

Go and start a thread about that? No? Why not? Because your issue is not truly with WLI injections. It's your own insecurities.

I always steer clear of any advice that starts with the word “just” - nothing is ever that simple! If you’ve needed to ask advice on it/ tell someone about the problem, it probably doesn’t call for a response starting with “just”.

Key risk factors include obesity, rapid weight loss, being female, and being over 40.

There used to be a saying "fair, fat and 40" was a good indicator for gallstones. Wasn't that the condition Rosemary Conley had prompting her Hip and Thigh diet which transformed her?

It will help you shift the stone but it will not stop you putting the stone back on when you stop taking it.

Some people will be on it forever, especially those who suffer from severe long term obesity, and WLIs like Mounjarno are not cheap.

There is also mounting feedback that it doesn’t necessarily work as better the second time round at lower doses so I am hazarding a guess it is not the solution for on/off dieters.

I'm sceptical that a reputable prescriber would let them have it. Checks and balances seem to be getting tighter, and rightly so, as it shouldn't be used as a casual way to drop a few pounds. I think anyone suggesting this doesn't know what they are talking about tbh.

But it's none of the OP's or anyone else's business if you do decide to use it. It's between you and your medical provider. In your personal circumstances it may be perfectly reasonable to use it.

I don't see the big deal, people will suggest what worked for them.

I hate the name 'Wegovy'. What an awful name. Google says Wegovy was chosen because 'we go' emphasizes a, "we're all in this together" approach, encouraging a proactive journey toward health and that the branding ties in directly to the "WeGoTogether" patient support program, launched concurrently for lifestyle.

But it's an awful name, hurts my ears.

I suggest we dont know anything at all about anyone else's personal medical history and that the appropriate use of a jab is between and individual and their medical provider.

Get it or don’t - why the need to rant 🤷🏻‍♀️

I agree. Makes no sense for someone who is 25.5 BMI (there is a thread running at the moment saying just this). I am astonished people would tell lies about their weight / height to get WLIs but clearly they have been doing that - seems irresponsible.

Indeed. And I think mental health issues are complex with genetics, individual circumstances and environment (and probably many other things) all playing a role. Living in an environment in which unrealistically skinny is promoted and desirable and normalised is likely to be a contributory factor.