Nigel Farage behaviour during talk about Dunblane shooting

[MikeRafone]

Whatever anyone thinks of handguns, 5 year olds died due to gun shot injuries and some respect should be shown by all MPs whatever side they represent

as he sat during the talk smirking

So now you are a mindreader?

Please can I borrow your crystal ball, my husband would like some tips for the Cheltenham Festival ? 🙂

Would you like to own a gun, @Biggermommabear ?

What for?

Imagine being an apologist and defender of an odious man who smirks at the mention of children being shot.

We all have political leanings but there comes a point where you should draw a line. In my opinion, innocent children being killed is one of them.

But there are some people that lap up the crap they are being fed from across the pond which is against their own interests without realising that it’s lining the pockets of already very rich and powerful men. You’re doing your job for them, but then you know that don’t you.

@hobbledyhoy Imagine being an apologist and defender of an odious man, who's supposed to be leading our great country, who gives a job involving national security to a paedophile's pal and nonce's bestie.😨

Yuch, triple yuch.

They aren't mind readers but managed to understand what my post meant through normal logic and not twisting the words, no-one else has accused me of being pro-stabbing apart from you. Does that not suggest that maybe it wasn't actually ambiguous.
You incorrectly quoted me here That’s very different to the “if only these people had knives…” by selecting a small amount of what I said and moving the word 'only', you have tried to make it sound like I wanted them to stab people.
What sort of logic are you using to be able to suggest I am pro-stabbing when I have clearly said that if they didn't have access to guns so easily then far less people would have been killed, at what point does that mean I am happy for people to be stabbed?
Absolutely bizarre

For anything! I don’t know what you’d use it for. It was a simple question… would you like to own a gun?

This was the impression I got from what was said in the film. Maybe there's a difference between the law being implemented in England and in Scotland? They said some handguns were banned straight away, but others weren't, and they talked to various women who had campaigned for two years for a full ban. But if I got the wrong end of the stick, I apologise.

MYOB

We have had mass shootings whete 500 people were injured or killed during a single incident. No knife incident can come close to that unless you are thinking of a mass sword event.

I'm not arguing with you.

That’s fine, I just thought it was relevant to the discussion. If you’re reluctant to answer for any reason that’s not an issue 🤷🏻‍♀️, we can just infer an answer from everything else you say.

He is right. Look at the US which he so admires, there is no link between the level of ownership and gun crime. We can have a decent trade deal with the US as long as we open up our country to great and tasty US hormone treated and antibiotic injected meat, the NHS to US companies and private health insurance firms and our high streets to US gun companies. In this country you just have to incite people to murder on social media and they jail you. We need sensible free speech policies like in the US ans sensible gun laws.

Farage when he is PM will make sure that we are made great again with the free market truly free without red tape like workers rights, renters right and disabled and women’s rights. Just the hidden hand of the market directed by God. Councils should be rid of all powers and only have one role that is to put flags on every lamppost. He so loves this country and is constituents and advocates for them and US whenever he meets or tries to meet the US President every month.

Whataboutery at its finest. Good line to deflect from your own defects is to, “blame others of what you are guilty of” Goebbels.

Another Farage-hater with a crystal ball, wow !

Inference isn’t ’mind reading’. It’s common, in the absence of an answer, for someone to infer something from the other things that someone says. I may be right and I may be wrong, it’s just inference.
Equally, you have no idea what I’ve inferred. Unless you have a crystal ball? 😉

The poster I referred to wasn't making 'inferences'. They were giving a list of what Farage would do if he was in No 10.

Hence the crystal ball comment.🙂

Showing Rachel Reeves laughing at a crisis isn't 'whataboutery' it's relevant. Or maybe you didn't look at the clip?

The partial handgun ban went through Parliament in February 1997 but it wasn't til November 1997 that the full ban was passed (after a general election). So the full ban was passed 20 months after Dunblane, but I think it came into force in Feb 1998 which was just shy of the 2 year anniversary.

I've no reason to believe you are incorrect.
However, there was no need for people to carry on campaigning once the Bill was passing through parliament.

^This 💯, that’s exactly what I meant.

You say ‘Farage hater’ like it’s an insult?

That’s a certainly a MAGAish/red neck type username 😂

Knives aren't in the same bracket as guns at all. By their very nature, knife attacks require the attacker to be up close to their victims.
If we use the US figures for people killed, the statistics are easily accessible. In 2024, for example, there were 1,566 murders using 'knives or other cutting instruments.' In the same period, there were 11,316 murders using firearms. You could compare figures from any other year you like, and they'd tell the same sad (and entirely predictable) story. Admittedly, those figures include all murders, not just mass killings. But mass attacks using knives are very rare compared to those involving firearms.
So the 'what about knives then?!' argument is glib (and also entirely predictable.)

Not much point. It's finished.