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MikeRafone · 2026-03-14T13:22:48+00:00

Whatever anyone thinks of handguns, 5 year olds died due to gun shot injuries and some respect should be shown by all MPs whatever side they represent as he sat during the talk smirking

TeaView · 14/03/2026 16:39

Kdobelda · 14/03/2026 16:23

I don't understand anyone on this thread saying the ban on handguns was excessive?
It was a fantastic move and has done much to keep this country safer from gun crime.

I feel proud of the people who campaigned for it and the fact our government accepted it. An awful disaster happened, and we took decisive action. We didn’t wallow in nonsense by saying that guns don’t kill, people do.🙄 etc.

SerendipityJane · 14/03/2026 16:42

The fact there are still shootings suggests our gun laws are still too lax.

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 16:48

@TeaView "We didn’t wallow in nonsense by saying that guns don’t kill, people do.🙄 etc."

It's not nonsense, it's quite correct.

The massacre occurred because some people didn't do the vetting job properly.

In 1991 (five years before the tragic event) complaints against Hamilton (the shooter) were made to the Central Scotland Police and were investigated by the Child Protection Unit. He was reported to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of ten charges, including assault, obstructing police and contravention of the Children and Young Persons Act 1937.
Reports from serving police officers stated that he was unsuitable to own firearms; no action was taken.

sittingonabeach · 14/03/2026 16:52

@Biggermommabear have you told the Dunblane parents that campaigned for gun restrictions that it was a knee jerk reaction and they shouldn’t have campaigned for it?

Mischance · 14/03/2026 16:53

Valeyard15 · 14/03/2026 14:39

He's right that the ban on hand guns was a knee jerk reaction and excessive

No, he isn't and no, it wasn't.

It was not a knee pjerk reaction. It was a wakeup call.

StandFirm · 14/03/2026 16:54

ValueofNothing · 14/03/2026 14:26

@Biggermommabear That wasn't RBF, though, that was a definite smirk from Farage.

If Rachel Reeves has done it too, feel free start a separate thread about it? It's pretty obvious you're trying to deflect from the fact that he smirked when a victim of the Dunblane massacre was mentioned, and that he thinks the handgun ban brought in after Dunblane was ludricrous.

He is so influenced by American politics that he's struggling to remember what the British public believes in. Despite what he says, we're fine with the handgun ban. We don't want to be dragged into yet another war in the Middle East by the US. We don't want privatised healthcare. We don't want changes to our abortion law in favour of making it harder for woman to have abortions. He is so out of touch with the British public. That's what's ludicrous.

Yes, and it further exposes his real agenda for taking us out of the EU. 'Sovereignty' my a**.

TeaView · 14/03/2026 16:55

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 16:48

@TeaView "We didn’t wallow in nonsense by saying that guns don’t kill, people do.🙄 etc."

It's not nonsense, it's quite correct.

The massacre occurred because some people didn't do the vetting job properly.

In 1991 (five years before the tragic event) complaints against Hamilton (the shooter) were made to the Central Scotland Police and were investigated by the Child Protection Unit. He was reported to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of ten charges, including assault, obstructing police and contravention of the Children and Young Persons Act 1937.
Reports from serving police officers stated that he was unsuitable to own firearms; no action was taken.

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Well we haven’t had a similar incident since. So I take that as a win. How is your life worse since this ban?

LemonFancy · 14/03/2026 16:57

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 16:31

I don't know if you are trying to be genuinely helpful, by educating me on the subtle nuances of the English language, or you truly don't understand what is meant by an "ad hominem" attack.

Here's the definition - HTH

"Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevant, but often highly charged attribute of the opponent's character or background.... "

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Oh I was trying to to be genuinely helpful 😊

WhatAMarvelousTune · 14/03/2026 16:58

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 14:57

the OP said "if these people only had access to knives, far less people would die."

So, in their opinion it better they be stabbed rather than shot?
I'm not being obtuse, I'm using logic. You should try it sometime 🙄

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Are you missing the point deliberately? Someone with a knife has the ability to injure fewer people than someone with a gun. They have to be within arms reach of every person they injure. So fewer people would die.

Berriesandcucumbers1 · 14/03/2026 16:58

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 16:48

@TeaView "We didn’t wallow in nonsense by saying that guns don’t kill, people do.🙄 etc."

It's not nonsense, it's quite correct.

The massacre occurred because some people didn't do the vetting job properly.

In 1991 (five years before the tragic event) complaints against Hamilton (the shooter) were made to the Central Scotland Police and were investigated by the Child Protection Unit. He was reported to the Procurator Fiscal for consideration of ten charges, including assault, obstructing police and contravention of the Children and Young Persons Act 1937.
Reports from serving police officers stated that he was unsuitable to own firearms; no action was taken.

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So you would be happy for the general public to have access to guns? If so, why, what good would that do? It increases the risks of people being murdered.

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 16:59

sittingonabeach · 14/03/2026 16:52

@Biggermommabear have you told the Dunblane parents that campaigned for gun restrictions that it was a knee jerk reaction and they shouldn’t have campaigned for it?

Please don't be sarcastic - it doesn't help the discussion.

sittingonabeach · 14/03/2026 17:02

@Biggermommabear I’m not being sarcastic. There is a poster on MN you could tell directly if you think it was a knee jerk reaction and shouldn’t have happened

Daygloboo · 14/03/2026 17:02

StandFirm · 14/03/2026 16:54

Yes, and it further exposes his real agenda for taking us out of the EU. 'Sovereignty' my a**.

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Quite

TunafishSandwich · 14/03/2026 17:02

There have been many knee jerk reactions to atrocities that have resulted in new laws being passed, but this is not one of them.

Farage is an odious cunt.

Mumofteenandtween · 14/03/2026 17:03

As a country I think that we should be very proud of the fact that we had one Dunblane and said “never again” and did what had to be done that means that it has never happened again.

SerendipityJane · 14/03/2026 17:08

90 replies and no one remembers Hungerford ?

A police friend of DFs was called to that.

WutheringTights · 14/03/2026 17:14

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 13:26

The ban on handguns after the Dunblane tragedy was a "kneejerk reaction"

In 2014, as Ukip leader, he said the ban on handguns brought in after Dunblane was “ludicrous” and should be lifted, arguing handguns ought to be legalised and licensed again.
Restrictions on small arms put in place after the massacre were a “kneejerk” response, Farage said at the time.
Farage claimed there was “almost no link” between “sensible, decent people” keeping handguns under a licensing system and gun crime on the streets, and insisted repealing the ban would not send gun crime back to “Gunchester”‑era levels.
He summed up his position by saying: “We need a proper gun licensing system…and I think the ban on handguns is ludicrous.”

So now we have a knife crime epidemic.

What now, a ban on knives ?

Knives are less deadly than guns. Few people actually need a gun, and farmers etc can get a one with a licence. But knives are useful kitchen tools. So we weigh up risk accordingly. HTH.

Berriesandcucumbers1 · 14/03/2026 17:16

WutheringTights · 14/03/2026 17:14

Knives are less deadly than guns. Few people actually need a gun, and farmers etc can get a one with a licence. But knives are useful kitchen tools. So we weigh up risk accordingly. HTH.

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I'm sure that poster will be back to tell you that you're just saying you'd rather people get stabbed than shot. They bizarrely seem to believe banning guns has had no impact on how many people have died in the uk.

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 17:18

WhatAMarvelousTune · 14/03/2026 16:58

Are you missing the point deliberately? Someone with a knife has the ability to injure fewer people than someone with a gun. They have to be within arms reach of every person they injure. So fewer people would die.

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The Dunblane shooter went to the school with four handguns and 743 rounds of ammunition.
It begs the question as to why someone who had not been recommended to own any firearms was (apparently) allowed membership of a shooting club, was allowed to teach shooting and was able to obtain such a large amount of ammunition.

I can't speak for the gun laws in Scotland prior to 1991 but in England the law was very tight. In the town that I lived in when I was shooting pistol it was nigh impossible to obtain a Firearms Licence if you had an address in certain parts of the town and the Police made regular inspections on your premises.

It wasn't the Law that failed these poor children it was, IMO, the application of it.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/03/2026 17:19

Farage smirked because he holds the victims in Dunblane in contempt. Just as he holds the rest of the UK in contempt. He doesn't possess an ounce of decency or respect.

But what do you expect from a work shy traitor?

hattie43 · 14/03/2026 17:20

Another day another Farage thread . You lot are obsessed.

ChaseTheSin · 14/03/2026 17:21

Biggermommabear · 14/03/2026 15:03

So you're OK with people dying but not the method?

Riiight .

So your Yr 5 knows about gun culture and knives do they? Hmmmm ?

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Wow you really do struggle with comprehension 😂. And yes of course they do!

WutheringTights · 14/03/2026 17:22

Berriesandcucumbers1 · 14/03/2026 17:16

I'm sure that poster will be back to tell you that you're just saying you'd rather people get stabbed than shot. They bizarrely seem to believe banning guns has had no impact on how many people have died in the uk.

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I did enjoy her claiming that someone was indulging in an ad hominem attack, and quoting the definition which showed that the post she quoted wasn’t actually an ad hominem attack. 🤣

LarsenBiceshelf · 14/03/2026 17:22

hattie43 · 14/03/2026 17:20

Another day another Farage thread . You lot are obsessed.

Disgusted and disappointed, yes. Obsessed? No.

He's a politician and in the public eye, therefore he puts himself forward for scrutiny. This is that.

ChaseTheSin · 14/03/2026 17:25

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/03/2026 15:56

Your powers of reading comprehension don't seem great, @Biggermommabear. The post I've quoted is the post you seemed to think @ilovesooty had posted. It is quite obviously from a teacher saying that children in year 5 in the English school system (so aged between 9 and 10) would be capable of grasping that saying fewer people are likely to die in a knife attack than a gun attack is not saying it's better to be stabbed than shot. Obviously nobody wants either form of attack to happen, but nobody wants any form of crime to happen. We put measures in place to try to prevent crime and minimise the harm done when crimes of violence do happen anyway. Banning handguns was a sensible and proportionate measure which as far as I'm aware has indeed meant that gun crime in the UK has remained very low ever since.

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Thank you - @Biggermommabear is very confused 😂