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No sir (or madam) I don’t want intimate knowledge of your nether regions through the medium of flesh coloured scrunchbum pants and inappropriate swimwear that clings to your flaccid member ***title edited by MNHQ to correct a typo***

198 replies

BookOfBritishBirds · 08/03/2026 12:21

Totally get that in theory everyone has a right to wear what they wish but even so…I theory I have a right to not have to walk around looking at the floor

Curses. Nether. Not meter.

OP posts:
Ladygodalmighty · 09/03/2026 22:48

If you've got it flaunt it! I wish I had when I had something worth flaunting 😆

OtterlyAstounding · 10/03/2026 00:47

Ohfuckrucksack · 09/03/2026 21:52

I'm fairly sure supermarkets have rules of entry which would prohibit this.

Many establishments can and do refuse entry in relation to not having a shirt on etc.

Also, being naked isn't necessarily illegal in the UK - unless the intent to cause alarm, distress or outrage public decency.

It's about intent, which is why flashing is different - because the intent is to cause distress, whereas the naked cycling event is not intended to do so.

I always think the intent argument is a little silly.

How is it that a naked man exposing his flaccid penis to a child while walking through the woods is harmful if he intends to cause distress, but not harmful if he doesn't intend it?

How does a person's inner intent - which no one else can even know! - alter the impact of an action? It feels like magical thinking to me.

Either being unexpectedly confronted by a strange, naked man in the woods is distressing, or it isn't. What might or might not be going on in the man's head really isn't relevant to the person being exposed to his penis.

Needspaceforlego · 10/03/2026 00:56

Pricesandvices · 08/03/2026 12:54

Flesh colours scrunch bum leggings in the gym are fascinating. Our entire circuit class were WTAF at a young woman who walked past in them.
Black isn't too bad. The flesh ones are hilarious.

Are they really much different to the thong leotards of the 90s! 😬

GarlicFound · 10/03/2026 01:02

venus7 · 09/03/2026 21:40

You'd be prepared to defend this view if you saw a man in a jockstrap in a supermarket greengrocery aisle?

With some regret, I would.

You were wrong on two important counts, @SurelyNotShirley. UK law does not enforce clothing in public. You may walk around naked if no intent to cause alarm, distress, or harassment, and if not sexual.

And, as others have said, nobody has a right not to be offended. There are very strong reasons for this.

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:12

I'm about to sound about 100, but I think people wear far too little these days, or else things are far too tight, and people also look scruffier than ever.

I think it depends WHEN you grew up. When I was an older child and an early teen, it was the era of Dynasty and all the men were beautifully clean-shaven. The facial hair of the Seventies was out, and we never, ever dreamed it would return with such a vengeance and last so long....or that it would have so many grey, brown, and dark patches, not to mention the dried egg or drips of gravy in it...lovely!

Then, I came of age and was a young woman in the Nineties, and that was a pretty covered-up era.

My nieces wear dresses that look like tiny silk babydoll nighties, and I'm told this is normal these days!

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:15

GarlicFound · 10/03/2026 01:02

With some regret, I would.

You were wrong on two important counts, @SurelyNotShirley. UK law does not enforce clothing in public. You may walk around naked if no intent to cause alarm, distress, or harassment, and if not sexual.

And, as others have said, nobody has a right not to be offended. There are very strong reasons for this.

UK does not enforce clothing in public? Thought we had public decency laws - although I suppose those have gone, along with the general on-the-floor standards these days. Colour me shocked.

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:21

Itstimeforachangeagain · 08/03/2026 12:32

Bit difficult when you are sat on a bus and the flaming arses of these people waiting to get off are directly in your line of vision. You need to look at the floor or the ceiling.
I had the misfortune once when my totally naked alcoholic first H was very drunk to have to try and stop him sitting on the edge of the bath and pooing into it. The sight of that quite literally comes into my memory every time I see these women flaunting their buttocks to the world. It bemuses me how they have been conned into thinking bums are actually attractive.

Oh, DON'T start me off! The women's costumes in the European Figure Skating championships recently were disgusting. Some of the women were skating with their entire bums naked. I could practically see what they had for lunch, and if they hadn't wiped properly, you'd have seen it. Others had no trouble keeping covered. It's not supposed to be allowed, but the costume rules aren't enforced. Probably because the male head honchos in the sport are all too busy enjoying it. 😡

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:25

@Itstimeforachangeagain The sight of that quite literally comes into my memory every time I see these women flaunting their buttocks to the world. It bemuses me how they have been conned into thinking bums are actually attractive.

Re. the bolded part of the quote, you HAVE to watch this:

Argh, it won't play. But look up Amy Schumer "Milk milk Lemonade." It's a hilarious song about exactly what you've said in the bolded!

Oh, wait - it seems to work if you click on that number 1 on the bottom right of the black box. Really worth a watch!

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FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:40

5128gap · 08/03/2026 13:40

Social norms around which areas of our bodies we should show or conceal constantly change and evolve. This is no doubt how the Victorians felt when women showed the outline of their legs in divided skirts to ride bikes, and how they reacted to the hint of midriff exposed by the first bikini.
Typically people chunter about it for a bit, then the novelty wears off and it becomes everyday, or fashions change and another part of the body becomes the focus of outrage.

Clothing is already tight and tiny. What do you do when there's no material left and no body part is private anymore? Are we all going to go around without clothes?

At least with so many people looking awful, it's much easier to stand out by being elegant! Nowadays, standards have slipped so much that jeans and a T-shirt that's tucked-in counts as elegant daywear! 🤭The world has been taken over by tracksuits and leggings and sports team gear, thanks to the pandemic.

GarlicFound · 10/03/2026 01:41

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:15

UK does not enforce clothing in public? Thought we had public decency laws - although I suppose those have gone, along with the general on-the-floor standards these days. Colour me shocked.

No, we have indecent exposure laws. The exposure itself is not considered indecent. If you go outside naked because of, say, a mental problem or an emergency, you're breaking no laws. If you do it as an unwanted sexual display, you are. If you're doing it to upset someone, you're breaking a different law (harassment, most likely).

The law starts from the obvious principle that everyone is naked by default, although it's considered polite to wear clothes in public.

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 02:32

pinksheetss · 08/03/2026 13:44

I don’t think what other people are wearing should have any offence to people in the slightest. Look, or look away.

On International Women’s Day of all days to come on and berate women for wearing something they either feel comfortable in or feel they look good in is terrible.

Get over it, move on.

Edited

We're talking about both genders, and we're free to discuss whatever we like. We're all talking generally - it's not like we're criticising an actual person who might see it.

I don't think posters should be trying to shut down conversations.

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 02:33

GarlicFound · 10/03/2026 01:41

No, we have indecent exposure laws. The exposure itself is not considered indecent. If you go outside naked because of, say, a mental problem or an emergency, you're breaking no laws. If you do it as an unwanted sexual display, you are. If you're doing it to upset someone, you're breaking a different law (harassment, most likely).

The law starts from the obvious principle that everyone is naked by default, although it's considered polite to wear clothes in public.

So interesting and so clearly explained, @GarlicFound. Are you a lawyer?

GarlicFound · 10/03/2026 02:46

Thank you, @FloofBunny. No, and I've no idea why I know this!

SouthernNights59 · 10/03/2026 03:05

Dontlletmedownbruce · 08/03/2026 15:15

I agree OP but was expecting this thread in the Summer. I honestly don't get the 'don't look then' replies. People who dress like this desperately want to be looked at. They are either intentionally provocative and attention seeking or they are following a herd because they dont know any better. Either way it screams low self esteem. We live in a free society and they are entitled to dress as they wish, but i am therefore entitled to look or not look as I wish. I am entitled to form my opinion on it and i am entitled to think they look pathetic.

I couldn't care less what people wear and am not offended by anything they might wear, but I do agree with this. People who dress like this want to be looked at, of course they do, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous, and they are going to attract judgement whether they like it or not.

Tonissister · 10/03/2026 03:08

BookOfBritishBirds · 08/03/2026 12:32

Worship of Mammon, self idolatry and SHEIN

Brilliant

PollyBell · 10/03/2026 03:14

I don't want to see what people have for breakfast man or woman and if they makes me a prude then prude away

JacquesHarlow · 10/03/2026 03:56

BookOfBritishBirds · 08/03/2026 12:56

Well that’s ok because I’m not moaning about it for anyone else’s entertainment but my own.

Well luckily for you @BookOfBritishBirds yourself is the only person you’re entertaining on this thread.

5128gap · 10/03/2026 07:53

FloofBunny · 10/03/2026 01:40

Clothing is already tight and tiny. What do you do when there's no material left and no body part is private anymore? Are we all going to go around without clothes?

At least with so many people looking awful, it's much easier to stand out by being elegant! Nowadays, standards have slipped so much that jeans and a T-shirt that's tucked-in counts as elegant daywear! 🤭The world has been taken over by tracksuits and leggings and sports team gear, thanks to the pandemic.

The OP is talking about the gym, so in fairness it was dominated by tracksuits and leggings before covid.
Most fashionable young women I see are not wearing tight and tiny clothes for everyday. More wide legged loose jeans and big tops. Though perhaps the cropped tops will appear with the summer.
My point, there isn't a trend towards more and more revealing items worn by the general population. How much flesh is revealed and which body parts are acceptable to reveal tends to change with fashion.

Boomer55 · 10/03/2026 08:06

BookOfBritishBirds · 08/03/2026 14:08

Same man at swimming pool should have the decency to invest in swimwear which is fit for purpose. Interestingly IMO budgie smugglers are considerably less alarming than semi damp cheesecloth in a pale colour that shows everything.

Its a form of oppression.

To be honest, I don’t think a bloke showing off his flaccid penis would actually oppress women.

Although, to be fair, it wouldn’t impress many either, I don’t suppose. 🤷‍♀️

Theres nothing really noteworthy about a limp dick.

gannett · 10/03/2026 08:30

The MN horror of the human body is something else.

Scrunch bum leggings are not my preferred fashion but neither are long floral dresses. I don't get being outraged by other people wearing clothes they like, even if I don't like them.

And getting outraged by people wearing exercise gear in order to exercise is just absurd.

Deboragh · 10/03/2026 09:29

shuggles · 08/03/2026 13:42

@BookOfBritishBirds tried to launch a female top shelf mag. I think it was called ‘For Women’ . Obscenity laws being what they were the bronzed and muscly male models who graced their pages were all in relaxed mode.

Every time that's been attempted, it has turned out the people buying and looking at the magazines were gay men, not women.

I think anyone who lives on planet earth would know that a straight woman would never buy a magazine to look at dicks.

Speak for yourself.

HatStickBoots · 10/03/2026 10:34

Deboragh · 10/03/2026 09:29

Speak for yourself.

Brilliant! 🤩 That made me laugh.

shuggles · 10/03/2026 18:20

Deboragh · 10/03/2026 09:29

Speak for yourself.

Please present your data which shows that straight women enjoy looking at photographs of dicks, and enjoy receiving photographs of dicks.

Ihateboris · 10/03/2026 18:35

shuggles · 10/03/2026 18:20

Please present your data which shows that straight women enjoy looking at photographs of dicks, and enjoy receiving photographs of dicks.

Ewwwww...I couldn't think of anything worse.

MaddieJo22 · 10/03/2026 18:44

God, isn't it tedious dragging people - especially women - down because of what they opt to wear.