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When are the 70s Rock Stars going to be held to account

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Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 06/03/2026 23:59

So in view of Operation Yew Tree with Saville and the ‘Dogdy DJ’s’, Entertainers;
Andrew Mount Batton; Epstein Island/Al-Fayed trafficking scandals/grooming gangs..etc etc
is it unreasonable to think that at some point the rock star mega stars will be next (and need to be )
the whole phenomena of the ‘baby groupie’ ( 13/24/15 year old children in relationships as well as being passed around -let alone young fans queuing up to offer sexual favours to the stars 2/3/4 times their age ) is well documented in biographies/memoirs/interviews of both these young girls retrospectively and the stars at the time- Led Zeppelin /Rolling Stones/Bowie /Red Hot Chilli Peppers/ John Peel and so so many more

i wonder if the shit will hit the fan for these ageing rockers who lived like sex gods in the 70s/80s and thought they could have on tap sex //coercive relationships with ‘willing fans‘/ children back in the day

if you go down the rabbit hole and see how appalling some of our most beloved rock stars behaved (in modern terms -groomers/rapists as children cannot consent ) unbelievable and at some point this will come to a head

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LusciousLondoner · 07/03/2026 00:05

The members of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers were children themselves in the 70s. If you're going to have a rant about something, at least get your facts right to start with.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 07/03/2026 00:10

I think we should take it as read that everyone everywhere who ever lived was problematic prior to 2016 .
I was just having this conversation with my mum this evening about this after watching a tiktok about This Is Your Life and how it wouldn't work in this day and age.
Even an age gap of 5 years 18/23 is considered bad today - when I used to date men at least 10 years older than me in the 80/90's and no one blinked an eye 😳🫣.

Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 07/03/2026 00:28

LusciousLondoner · 07/03/2026 00:05

The members of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers were children themselves in the 70s. If you're going to have a rant about something, at least get your facts right to start with.

Well yes late 80 I guess the RHCP issues would be duck
Antony Kleidis has admitted to in his memoir /it is common knowledge his relationship with a 16 years old who he got pregnant when he was 24 (Iona Skye) and later a 14 year old that when he ‘realised her daddy was a sherrif’ he thought he might as well ‘fuck her’ as nothing to lose etc
i like you clearly am massively attached to the music and the band
but come on no??

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Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 07/03/2026 00:43

Doingtheboxerbeat · 07/03/2026 00:10

I think we should take it as read that everyone everywhere who ever lived was problematic prior to 2016 .
I was just having this conversation with my mum this evening about this after watching a tiktok about This Is Your Life and how it wouldn't work in this day and age.
Even an age gap of 5 years 18/23 is considered bad today - when I used to date men at least 10 years older than me in the 80/90's and no one blinked an eye 😳🫣.

I’m totally with you on that

the ‘baby groupies ‘ many of which ended up in ‘long term sexual /imtimate relationships’ with the rock legends were 13/14 tho ? Then passed onto another legend - it’s so well documented
not sure how that as can be squared morally acceptable ?
But , my point was more ot must have to come to ahead im view of #MeToo/AWMB /Epstein /

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WinterBlues26 · 07/03/2026 00:59

Nothing will happen because they are men. Most of the police, cps and judges are men. Even if they get prosecuted they'll be let off just like every other paedophile (or those who are into bestiality which seems to be happening a lot more).

I think we need to concentrate on the now and get better sentencing for those who are convicted. Of any crime.

SnickerboaHoppfallera · 07/03/2026 01:03

I was saying precisely this at dinner tonight. My kids' dad was dumbfounded -hadn't really reflected on it. It's just around the corner, I can feel it.

ScullyD · 07/03/2026 01:03

I agree OP. The likes of Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger still at it too with their ridiculous age gaps.

ScullyD · 07/03/2026 01:07

@SnickerboaHoppfallera and I don’t think they’ll be held to account.

These rockstars are exalted versus AM who is a loser for all intents and purposes with no discernible talent or purpose. We’re meant to be proud of them as Brits so turn a blind eye it is.

SnickerboaHoppfallera · 07/03/2026 01:08

LusciousLondoner · 07/03/2026 00:05

The members of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers were children themselves in the 70s. If you're going to have a rant about something, at least get your facts right to start with.

And this is why the musical pervs will prove hard to get to -the cognitive dissonance is overwhelming.

SnickerboaHoppfallera · 07/03/2026 01:10

ScullyD · 07/03/2026 01:07

@SnickerboaHoppfallera and I don’t think they’ll be held to account.

These rockstars are exalted versus AM who is a loser for all intents and purposes with no discernible talent or purpose. We’re meant to be proud of them as Brits so turn a blind eye it is.

Yes, fair point, LusciousLondoner made a perfect example above. But we can hope...

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 07/03/2026 01:17

Doingtheboxerbeat · 07/03/2026 00:10

I think we should take it as read that everyone everywhere who ever lived was problematic prior to 2016 .
I was just having this conversation with my mum this evening about this after watching a tiktok about This Is Your Life and how it wouldn't work in this day and age.
Even an age gap of 5 years 18/23 is considered bad today - when I used to date men at least 10 years older than me in the 80/90's and no one blinked an eye 😳🫣.

I heard of somebody many years ago who worked for the production team of TIYL. Apparently, they went through everything with a fine-toothed comb and unearthed so much horrendous dirt on a lot of the people featured... but then they put that to the side and only focused on the nice, positive stuff.

I agree that it would never work now, with the internet. If they featured almost anybody famous, as soon as the episode had aired, Twitter would be awash with "How interesting that they never mentioned this........" with links and videos exposing them for everything bad they had done or were even alleged to have done.

Sudagame · 07/03/2026 01:19

Some of the lyrics at the time say it all really e.g. 'young girl' 'virgin child' 'sweet virgin of the world' etc, the Rod Stewart one actually makes me feel physically sick, though is thankfully rarely played these days. Yuk.

Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 07/03/2026 01:23

ScullyD · 07/03/2026 01:03

I agree OP. The likes of Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger still at it too with their ridiculous age gaps.

The age gain with 18 plus consenting adult women doesn’t concern me

Its being the willing recipients of oral sex from the 13/14 year olds before /after gigs as well as the well documented ‘groupie culture’ (aka sexually exploited children) thinking they were in relationships with co operative parents/families that I’m queasy about

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AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 07/03/2026 01:28

WinterBlues26 · 07/03/2026 00:59

Nothing will happen because they are men. Most of the police, cps and judges are men. Even if they get prosecuted they'll be let off just like every other paedophile (or those who are into bestiality which seems to be happening a lot more).

I think we need to concentrate on the now and get better sentencing for those who are convicted. Of any crime.

I think it's only a small part of the story that they're all men. Far more relevant is the sheer number of very high up and prominent people who are/were all directly involved or otherwise benefit(ed) from enabling it to continue. They sometimes sacrifice the odd washed-up old has-been - and allow the truth to emerge once somebody is dead and can no longer take anybody else down with them, but they close ranks because they know what so many of them are up to. Of course the vast majority are men, but by no means all - look at some of the early supporters of PIE and a certain ex-prime minister.

Even the ones whose noses are clean in that respect know that they have to keep quiet about it, if they want to keep their careers, reputations - and sometimes, so it would seem, their lives.

Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 07/03/2026 01:31

For anyone in any doubt Google Pamela des Barres , Bebe Buell, Sable Starr, and Connie Hamzy

My sister managed to get backstage climbing through a window before a gig in 1978 and performed fellatio on two band members and met the lead singer afterwards and had full sex with him along with another girl . She was a month shy of her 14th birthday and said artist was 34 at the time

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Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 07/03/2026 01:36

Imanexcellentdrivercharliebabbit · 07/03/2026 01:31

For anyone in any doubt Google Pamela des Barres , Bebe Buell, Sable Starr, and Connie Hamzy

My sister managed to get backstage climbing through a window before a gig in 1978 and performed fellatio on two band members and met the lead singer afterwards and had full sex with him along with another girl . She was a month shy of her 14th birthday and said artist was 34 at the time

He is a music icon /legend and his band is a household name -soundtrack of her and my upbringing life
but he is a sexual deviant /rapist
because 13 year olds can’t consent

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BeanQuisine · 07/03/2026 01:40

They got Gary Glitter in the end, so there's still hope that others will join him before it's too late.

SouthernNights59 · 07/03/2026 01:57

When will the people who, in many cases, weren't even around then decide to concentrate on what is happening in the here and now rather than trying to dredge up stuff from another era and wanting time and money spent on witch hunts. Stop pretending life today is a bed of roses.

Have you any idea how boring you sound? (incidentally I grew up in that era and even at a very young age would never have done anything I didn't want to do).

BeanQuisine · 07/03/2026 02:23

SouthernNights59 · 07/03/2026 01:57

When will the people who, in many cases, weren't even around then decide to concentrate on what is happening in the here and now rather than trying to dredge up stuff from another era and wanting time and money spent on witch hunts. Stop pretending life today is a bed of roses.

Have you any idea how boring you sound? (incidentally I grew up in that era and even at a very young age would never have done anything I didn't want to do).

So you're happy to see men who raped children get away with it, as long as it happened during a certain "era"?

Because holding them to account "sounds boring"?

Hopefully that's a fairly rare attitude.

NewGirlInTown · 07/03/2026 02:25

I’d rather we focussed on arresting and punishing the current rape gangs, destroying young girls’ lives TODAY!
Or are we just accepting that poor young white girls (in their tens of thousands) do not matter?

BeanQuisine · 07/03/2026 02:28

NewGirlInTown · 07/03/2026 02:25

I’d rather we focussed on arresting and punishing the current rape gangs, destroying young girls’ lives TODAY!
Or are we just accepting that poor young white girls (in their tens of thousands) do not matter?

Why can't we go after all the rapists? Why do you want it to be: "this one we nab, this one goes free..."?

nomas · 07/03/2026 02:36

LusciousLondoner · 07/03/2026 00:05

The members of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers were children themselves in the 70s. If you're going to have a rant about something, at least get your facts right to start with.

Anthony Kiedis admits to having sex with a 14yo when he was in his 20s so maybe you should get your facts right.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 07/03/2026 02:37

SouthernNights59 · 07/03/2026 01:57

When will the people who, in many cases, weren't even around then decide to concentrate on what is happening in the here and now rather than trying to dredge up stuff from another era and wanting time and money spent on witch hunts. Stop pretending life today is a bed of roses.

Have you any idea how boring you sound? (incidentally I grew up in that era and even at a very young age would never have done anything I didn't want to do).

But many did.

nomas · 07/03/2026 02:39

SouthernNights59 · 07/03/2026 01:57

When will the people who, in many cases, weren't even around then decide to concentrate on what is happening in the here and now rather than trying to dredge up stuff from another era and wanting time and money spent on witch hunts. Stop pretending life today is a bed of roses.

Have you any idea how boring you sound? (incidentally I grew up in that era and even at a very young age would never have done anything I didn't want to do).

Did it bore you when Gary Glitter was jailed? Rolf Harrison?

When Jimmy Savile was shown for what he was?

Why are you so desperate to cling to your illusions about these ‘stars’?

GarlicFound · 07/03/2026 03:06

nomas · 07/03/2026 02:39

Did it bore you when Gary Glitter was jailed? Rolf Harrison?

When Jimmy Savile was shown for what he was?

Why are you so desperate to cling to your illusions about these ‘stars’?

There's a difference, to me, in that the above were systematic sex abusers. Access to children for sex purposes was a major driver of their career choices and activities. Those who were primarily musicians, actors, presenters, etc and 'took what was offered' as a perk of fame, if you like, were unwisely sleazy but not in the same category.

Several aged rock stars have now said they regret having been so eager to take advantage of young fans. They were young, probably not entirely sober, and times really were different then (I'm the same age as them). It was widely accepted, for instance, that - male or female - you wouldn't get a record deal without giving an exec a blow job.

Grim, but I agree with the PPs who've said you shouldn't underestimate how much things are changing since #MeToo ... nor how much systematic abuse is going on now, under our noses, when there's a chance of holding back the tide and 'calling to account' the currently prolific abusers.

Patriarchy has always expected its cock to be serviced.

If you insisted on going back 50 years to shame musicians' behaviours, can you justify stopping there? Should you also be going after all the men in the entertainments and arts, in business, in government, in public services, anywhere they could leverage their bit of power to get into a young woman's body? How far back in time do you want to go - are you stopping at men still alive, because it's more than a lifetime's work to call out all the men who've ever done this.

Deplore it and focus on current activities, I say.

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