To think prisoners should be safe in prison?

[BlueJuniper94]

Is this an unreasonable belief? I know Ian Huntley committed horrific crimes and I really do sympathise with the feelings that he deserves it in light of what his victims have suffered and continue to suffer.

BUT - this shouldn't be allowed to happen in prisons. Aibu?

Of course prisoners should be kept safe.

How exactly?

I am not an expert in designing prison premises and staffing so can't answer that. But if we lock people up we should make sure they are adequately fed, housed and protected from violence.

Meh, more interested in keeping non-criminals safe tbh. Prison shouldn't be safer than the outside world, though I suspect it is.

Solitary confinement essentially. Not cosy workshop sessions where murderers have access to all manner of things that can be effectively used as weapons against the staff aswell as inmates. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgq7w4xxg3eo

Not let them have access to hot oil, wire, workshop machinery and tools.

Unfortunately this limits the possibility of rehabilitation

I would.

You could say that about any murderer though.

There is no funding for new well designed prisons, and our current inadequate prisons are understaffed.

We are all aware of the above.

So my question is, how can they be safe?

Surely it’s realistically an impossibility, unless you know a way?

…apart from not committing the crime in the first place.

Oh yay a good bit of news today. Heinous man.

He was in a position to have kept those two beautiful girls safe and didn’t, did he? All evil ‘people’ deserve any harm that comes to them.

Perhaps we need to find the resources, or perhaps reserve custodial sentences for dangerous criminals and use all the resources we have now to keep those criminals safe from each other. It needs addressing properly, I don't have a thought out solution at my fingertips.

Yes, I think unless it is solitary confinement, which presumably would mean vast numbers of prison officers(?), they will always find a way to attack each other. If they are not using a nasty weapon of some sort they will use sheer physical violence.

Where's the laugh button gone?
It's not possible. They do their best by keeping them segregated most of the time,which they are very lucky to have . It's not possible every single moment. They have to mix occasionally. Being in solitary for 24/7 would apparently be bad for their mental health, so alot choose to go to classes etc, to break up the monotony.
Best if you just keep your nose clean and don't go into prison.

You might read up about prisons, they are very short staffed, are you surprised about that?
Would you want to work there?

Not worried about the staff are you?

Yes and put stuff in their meals in the kitchen.

I don't think many people will care. They will hear the news briefly and then get on with their lives.

I suspect that the families of the 2 girls he murdered will probably be relieved if he does die. It will mean that they’ll never have to hear about him again.

Of course. The punishment under law is loss of liberty, not to be assaulted. Besides which we can't suddenly decide that prisoners attacking each other is OK, because not every prisoner is Ian Huntley. A prisoners vulnerability to attack is not based on how heinous their crime is. There are all sorts of other reasons they may be a target, so there needs to be robust protections in place to keep these people safe.

Yes that's true, none of us will.
Honestly what a shit life, what was the point of it.
He murdered two girls and went to prison. Hated by everyone, and then in the end was killed or half killed depending on what happens.

Why would you want a life like that and a horrible end when you could be out there enjoying life and being liked.
Life's alot easier if your nice.

Yes. But children shouldn’t be murdered by school staff. 🤷‍♀️

And if it was your child?

I thought you were going to say in line for the throne…….

My dad was in prison for two stints in his youth both for bar fights. He didn’t get assaulted and ultimately was fine, but he has always said the constant feeling of being on edge because it could kick off at any moment took a massive toll on him. While he didn’t personally experience violence he has seen some really horrific stuff. 40 years later he still wakes up at the same time he woke up in prison and eats at the same time. He had a pretty tame prison experience and it had a profound life long effect on him. I know prison isn’t supposed to be nice, but I understand why it can be hard to a lot of people to reintegrate into society after and I think a lot of reoffending has to do with that.

Read the posts. It's not possible to keep everyone safe all the time in life.
Nobody is safe .The staff aren't safe in prison either, but you decide to keep on about the vilest of people and worry about them.
They wouldn't have given a monkeys about you if they'd wanted to kill you.

Were the two young students who were killed in Nottingham walking home, safe from that knife man, should they have been yes!

He shouldn't even have been walking around.
There are many others like that. People who've lost their lives to people who shouldn't have been walking the streets.
Are children safe from their abusive parents and stepparents?
It's just daft to say everyone should be safe. They are not .