To think prisoners should be safe in prison?

[BlueJuniper94]

Is this an unreasonable belief? I know Ian Huntley committed horrific crimes and I really do sympathise with the feelings that he deserves it in light of what his victims have suffered and continue to suffer.

BUT - this shouldn't be allowed to happen in prisons. Aibu?

Surely half of the reason to avoid prison is to be well away from the dangerous people within? If anyone committing a crime doesn't realise that maybe this story will clear it up. I am actually pleased it is hopefully reminding the ever growing male peadophile population what awaits them.

Anyone in prison is not there voluntarily. What part of safeguarding in a prison and not allowing the law of the jungle do you not understand? It's like females in the female estate being subject the sexual predators who call themselves trans so they can rape and assault women in a female prison. The job of the prison is to keep prisoners safe from assault.

Disturbingly the poll says 51percent you are being unreasonable. If you think Lord Of the Flies is OK in prisons you need to have a word with yourselves. Every time there is an incident like this means the prison is turned upside down and people might lose their jobs.

What are you talking about? I haven't chosen to 'go on' or 'worry' about 'the vilest of people' at all. The OP asked specifically for opinions on whether people should be safe in prison and I said yes they should.
Because not all prisoners are 'the vilest', like the 72% of women and 63% of men in prison for non violent crime for example. Who would also be at risk if we dispense with safety protections for prisoners.
All those innocent people who were harmed should of course be safe. But the thread is asking about the safety of prisoners. I answered the question asked. So why you're ranting at me I've no idea.

Yes basically, a lot of them are scumbags but killing a pedo or rapist gets them brownie points from the other prisoners and might get them smuggled treats from outside,

Maybe posters should think about the heroic prison officers who are on low wages and do their jobs professionally. None of them would regard allowing other prisoners to attack or kill a prisoner as something good. It's a failure of the prison system and is usually punished by the powers that be. Nodoubt there will be a damaging enquiry and people might lose their jobs.

It is mainly the high profile child killers that get picked on in prison. Most people are not attacked.
As said staff aren't safe in there, and neither is the general public going about their life. Never seen a thread about either of those two things, just the prisoners. 😱
Pointless discussion really.

I doubt it, it's hard to recruit people to work in prisons today.
People also commit suicide in prison, like it or not it still happens.
There might be enquiries but nothing will change.

I agree. But as a society we seem to prefer punishment over rehabilitation.

I’m a big fan of vigilante justice.

What do you think would be the logical consequence(s) of that?

But it's not vigilalante justice (not that I approve).
It's another deviant attacking another deviant nothing moral or upstanding about it in the slightest.

Of course, I get that.
But on the occasion it happens, I feel very little to no sympathy.

There's lots of reasons people get attacked in prisons. Because they're percieved as weak, due to racism, because they're victims of bullies, victims of sexial assaults, as part of establishing hierarchy, to coerce them into actions, or because they refuse to be coerced, sonetines just because some of the people they're banged up with are dangerous lunatics full of pent up rage, who don't need a reason.
You think its high profile child killers, because you hear about them, because they're high profile. John from Stoke, in for benefit fraud, who got beaten up because he looked at someone the wrong way doesn't tend to make the news.

Prison officers should also be safe ... above prisoners.

Not unreasonable, but kinda depends on what they’re in for. Someone like Ian Huntley deserves everything he gets.

I do understand why people want to see sex offenders get battered, but people don’t account for the fact other inmates have to see it. Seeing (often extreme) violence on a regular basis is traumatic even if you’re a criminal yourself unless you’re an absolute psychopath. The conditions of prison make rehabilitation harder for sure.

So what sort of 'vigilante justice' are you a big fan of? Lynch mobs and paedophile hunters who harass and torment paediatricians?

Should prisoners be protected from harm? Generally, yes of course. Adults that harm children though? Nope, they deserve everything they get. The same is true for rapists too. For some offences, I don't think rehabilitation is possible as their minds are too twisted in order to commit acts so heinous. I do however think using the Ian Huntley case completely skews the voting on this thread.

Well, I knew someone that when younger locally knew of a paedophile that got beaten up as he’d interfered with a local child. No reporting to the police afaik.

Yes, probably

I have got a feeling it is this dehumanisation of other humans (no matter how depraved they are) that is also responsible for sadistic and brutal crimes.

Yes, of course, society should try to keep its prisoners as safe as possible. If you can't treat humans as humans then why do you complain when other humans treat humans inhumanely?

By all accounts Huntley's only got a 5% chance of recovery. It's shaping up to be a good weekend...

YANBU

There are countries that don’t protect prisoners. We do not wanna be those countries.

Now I can’t say I feel the slightest bit sad Huntley has been attacked and might die. But everyone still deserves protection.

If he does die, I really hope his killer doesn't become a hero online. Because that would really be a kick in the teeth to his victims’ friends and families.