To not understand why fly tipping is happening on such a large scale?

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

If you have a car, surely you can just go to the dump? I mean, it's free 🤷‍♀️

Why is flytipping on an industrial scale happening, what has changed to cause this to happen? Have industrial sites been shut down?

Genuinely don't get it, just seen it on the news

This is ridiculous!

I must say my old one required a photo of my driving license

This is INSANE!

Same here in my bit of Melbourne, except each twice-yearly household collection has to be booked. It was great when it was everyone twice a year, the pickings you could get!

Now it looks like a shanty town as individual households leave stuff out for weeks and weeks before phoning in for a collection.

Because most of it is "on an industrial scale" and you can only rock up at the tip (with an appointment here) with a car for domestic waste, and not on a regular basis, for obvious reasons.

Most fly tipping is done by people who have been paid to take away the waste - always check the licence of anyone who takes yours.

What inspired my thread actually is i have bags of rubbish in the car waiting to go to the dump

Because my household waste bin is emptied fortnightly! I don't want to have an overflowing bin affecting the ground floor flat (house converted into flats) so when it's a big waste week I take it all there myself

How ridiculous not to collect the fridge door 🙄 - I do think bin men take the piss sometimes, just take the 1msq sized rubbish fgs

You don't book at ours and it has really long hours.

You can go in a van, but those you do have to book and somehow convince them that you're not "trade".

Here it’s because the tip is a nightmare to book into. You have to phone to book. You get a warning when you book that if the skips are full you may have to return later. You can also only book one free slot a month, after that you have to pay on a scale of how many trips you make.

The council used to do a bulky uplift of 20 items for £20. Then it was 10 items for £20. It’s now £50 for 10 items.

Our bins are emptied three weekly (bar garden waste which is monthly) so there are a load of companies who offer bin emptying between times and I firmly that has added to the fly tipping problems.

Because we live in London - a lot of people here don't have a car. Our local council now charges £42 to take bulky items away. A lot of people can't really afford to pay it. Council says some people on benefits get it free... but the list is quite narrow.

This is such a big bear of mine. In my London borough, you can take things to the local tip for free but only in a car (otherwise you have to book slots or something), also not everyone has car. And you can only take some things, they do offer a collection service but it costs a small fortune! So everyone fly tips then the guys come round within a week or 2 and collect it all. It’s so annoying and unsightly but equally, surely this can’t be the most cost effective way of doing things.

In Birmingham there have been no bulky waste collections in a year. You pay for these but very useful if you don’t have a car.
As there are no collections people pay a “collection service” to take their rubbish but those people choose to dump it instead.
There have been recycling trucks that go to local places but the queues for these are horrendous and the hours are during the working day.

Another thing is some people just don’t give a crap and dump things at the side of the road.

In Lambeth we used to get 4 free ‘bulky rubbish’ collections a year. You could phone up and they would take anything. Mattresses, white goods. Etc.
That stopped.

Only a third of households have cars (common in inner city areas)

It costs £38 to dispose of a mattress at the tip.

People have less money

Meanwhile HMOs and bad landlords abound, chucking out old mattresss and furniture. Fast food consumption has created mountains of rubbish, thrown out of the windows by uber and delivery drivers

Still looks like a shanty town here after bulk trash because people put out stuff that doesn't meet the criteria and then don't take it back inside when it very clearly is not going to be collected 🤦‍♀️ It just rots on the side of the road, until someone eventually sorts it.

It does get fixed eventually though and it's still a very handy system.

dump often not free, requires payment for certain things and certain people (trades), requires booking, purchases is closed 2 weekdays and open short hours on other days, queues, rude staff , the list goes on. Bin collection every 3 weeks here. I’m not remotely surprised by fly tipping. Google how much an Anyjunk or clearabee collection costs.

Greedy and being lazy, but basically greed when its piles of the stuff like on the news.

Small scale I've noticed loads of extra litter around here, not normal litter but people dumping plastic xmas trees into bushes, cat carriers, BBQ's, children's toys and bags of things like duvets. This is all in my immediate area. I collect normal litter but some of these things are too big for the council to collect from my own bins. Reported so much recently, scummy people. It's really gone downhill these last few months, I don't understand it.

Whilst I'm very anti fly tipping, some reasons are:

1. Not all tips are free, ours charge per item or per KG if bagged.
2. Many require pre-booking a slot.
3. Many are very restrictive to number of trips per year etc.
4. Many do not allow you to go on foot.
5. Many do not allow vans without permits, sometimes these have a charge.
6. Many have total jobsworths working for them, one actually made my husband get INSIDE a skip to retrieve something that apparently wasn't allowed, I made the next trip there and the same jobsworth not only let me deposit the same 'not allowed' item, but he actually took it out of my boot and put it in the skip himself, all whilst being a total smarmy letch to me.

As I said, I don't condone fly-tipping whatsoever, but I can see why many do it.

Thats insane over your hubby.. and am pretty sure health and safety would've gone mad here...

Yep, we were both a bit outraged over it, he could have fallen over and injured himself!!

It really changes from borough to borough too doesn't it? Redbridge we get one collection free per year of something bulky but after that pay £30 or something for up to 3 items.

But we get recycling and rubbish collected every single week. Get free gardening waste too every 2-3 weeks, my old place had to pay per sack of gardening waste and rubbish/recycling was collected on alternative weeks.
I really would help if everything was uniform and easier.

If councils want more car free residents by introducing congestion charges / encouraging use of public transport then they should be looking at collection of recyclables/ hard rubbish (thanks dr Kennedy)

I hope you complained - and for him being a smarmy git later too. Ugh!

Easily could've cut himself too...

Yeah, I can see how it happens. Cost of living crisis meaning fewer people can afford cars or can afford waste disposal people. Councils reducing black bin bag to once every 3 weeks with no additional waste allowance for larger families (who tend to have less disposable income).

We didn't, our council are absolutely useless, and any complaints we've made about other things have always been met with very frustrating poor responses. So we don't waste our precious time or energy dealing with them.

Exactly

I get really frustrated with the assumption that everyone has a car. Try getting older and not having your own transport.

Well round here it's because the bin men have been on strike for over a year.

Yeah, fair enough. Ours is similar, it's a bit of a headache.

I hope hubby would tell him to (insert here) off if ever asked to do that again!