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To not understand why fly tipping is happening on such a large scale?

176 replies

mumofoneAloneandwell · 25/02/2026 18:58

If you have a car, surely you can just go to the dump? I mean, it's free 🤷‍♀️

Why is flytipping on an industrial scale happening, what has changed to cause this to happen? Have industrial sites been shut down?

Genuinely don't get it, just seen it on the news

OP posts:
Cyclingforcake · 25/02/2026 20:30

AndrewFormallyKnownAsPrince · 25/02/2026 19:35

I don’t agree with fly tipping at all. However my local council tips have closed 4 tips near us. The next closest is now a 45 mile round trip. The nearest tip not in our council is 15 mins away. Technically it’s fly tipping to take the rubbish to the closest tip but when the bins haven’t come yet again because it’s ’snowing’ it’s bloody irritating

Are you in Bradford? Same thing has happened to us.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 25/02/2026 20:31

When Councils said they are BROKE , they weren't lying 🫠

OP posts:
Ghht · 25/02/2026 20:32

Another thing I forgot to mention is they also make it really difficult for families with babies in nappies.

My council collects black bin waste once every 3 weeks. They offer an additional (very) small black box caddy for nappies, which is full within 5 days from one baby. I have tried to get another one, but the local collection areas haven’t had any spare for 6 months- oh and these cost £10 each. They won’t collect any extra nappies without the ‘special’ (stupid) box. We made the mistake of visiting my MIL for a long weekend on black bin week. Luckily, I learnt to dive very recently so I was able to take the extra black bags to the tip (though it took me a week to get an appointment). Otherwise, I would’ve had 6 weeks worth of nappies and rubbish just rotting in my garden (which again, some people don’t have access to).

I have family members who’ve had a toddler in nappies and newborn twins and I dread to think of how they manage that amount. Add any social issues, possibly parents who need extra support/are struggling and it’s just an extra issue that doesn’t get dealt with properly because even the most basic system of rubbish collection isn’t fit for purpose.

BertieBotts · 25/02/2026 20:33

Idontspeakgermansorry · 25/02/2026 19:39

I like the system in Germany. They have a bulk trash day every 6 months, where you can put out furniture, electronics and hazardous materials, and they come and collect it.

I liked this too but they have stopped it in our area and now we have to pay €15 to book a collection Angry

StedSarandos · 25/02/2026 20:37

I don't think many tips accept pedestrians dropping items off either. They've made it clear that ours will only allow cars in, not people walking in with items. In the pandemic I wanted to walk to the tip with some bits in an ikea bag (too much time to spare in those days and no gym to go to) but was told cars only when I checked.

So much for a climate emergency.

PauliesWalnuts · 25/02/2026 20:39

My local area seems to be an outlier. I'm in a combined authority and although we can't take a van in, we don't need an appointment, we can do 52 trips a year (based on your reg number), you can go on foot, we aren't charged for garden waste, and we can use any tip within the combined authority. We also have Bulky Bob collections too.

notatinydancer · 25/02/2026 20:41

ours is free but you have to make an appointment.
My old one you had to pay for certain items.

SoSoLong · 25/02/2026 20:43

Last time I booked a bulky waste collection from the council I was offered a collection day 5 weeks away. It wasn't something I could fit in my car either. They really don't make it easy to get rid of stuff.

sunnygirl123 · 25/02/2026 20:52

I don’t agree with fly tipping and I think waste is everyone’s responsibility, but I can see why fly tipping has increased. Our local council have now made it so you have to make a booking to go to the tip, you can’t just turn up. Black bins are also collected every three weeks!

Notthisagainyouidiot · 25/02/2026 20:52

Our county council closed some tips, cut the hours/days of the rest and closed recycling points where you could take cardboard and glass as they said they attracted fly tipping. And introduced a convoluted set of rules about DIY waste. And then claimed they'd saved money.
Fly tipping went up massively. But that comes out of the local council budget. Chicanery at it's finest. And instead of the majority of the flytipping being at recycling points it's everywhere.

Chilena2022 · 25/02/2026 20:53

In my area of Spain they collect the rubbish daily and the bulky items one a moths and people still do a lot of mess,, taking big items any time.

schnubbins · 25/02/2026 20:54

Idontspeakgermansorry · 25/02/2026 19:39

I like the system in Germany. They have a bulk trash day every 6 months, where you can put out furniture, electronics and hazardous materials, and they come and collect it.

This used to be a thing but has now been curtailed in many areas because the rules were no longer adhered to ie. no electronic goods , no household waste ,no hazardous substances .So something that had existed for decades is now no longer allowed .One can book a collection with the local 'Wertstoffhof 'and all recycling /Wertstoff centres are open every Friday and Saturday .

PrincessArora · 25/02/2026 20:55

I do wonder why there is a massive assumption the council should get rid of your bulky waste. There’s a requirement to collect household waste, no requirement for a time limit ie weekly/monthly but they aren’t obliged and can’t afford to collect everything from everybody for nothing. Why should you not pay to dispose of your business waste.its part of your business cost. Why should you not pay for someone to collect a sofa from your house? You wouldn’t expect a business to do that for free, so why should your council? I don’t want my council tax rising to cover that cost too.

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 25/02/2026 20:59

Our tip doesn't offer appointments. You load up the car and just turn up. Often the queue is all the way up the access road and there's a man there on the main road turning people away. You can't queue on the main road as it's a single carriageway and major bus route.

It's frustrating to have a car load of stuff you want rid of and then having to keep driving up and down the road and hoping you get a place in the queue on the next pass by.

It's no wonder people get fed up and just dump it.

casapenguin · 25/02/2026 21:02

I think in terms of the massive ones that have been reported in the news recently - rather than a mattress down an alley way - the answer is organised crime.

Wallywobbles · 25/02/2026 21:04

I suppose they are trying to force it back up the supply chain. You won’t replace things if they’re impossible to get rid of. And so manufacturers will have to do something about it too.

casapenguin · 25/02/2026 21:06

Oh yeah here we go - article published 15 hours ago

Investigators from a borough council in Kent are warning the public to be more aware of who is disposing of their waste amid concerns about organised criminal gang links to fly-tipping.
Gravesham Borough Council spent £90,000 clearing illegally dumped waste and raised 504 investigations in the financial year to March 2025.
Tim Harris, Gravesham's environmental enforcement manager, said there was evidence of a move towards environmental crime where he said "rewards are high, penalties are lower and there's a massive network involved".
"There's a huge amount of money to be made," he added.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80jdvydzd5o

Vestus · 25/02/2026 21:07

Where we are some people live over the county line. Previously the two councils would have agreed that one would pay the other for people coming over the border. Our dump is one mile away from them. Theirs is 15 miles away. But the councils stopped agreeing so they can’t use our dump. So there’s a big increase in fly tipping in rural lanes and wooded areas now.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 25/02/2026 21:13

Ghht · 25/02/2026 20:32

Another thing I forgot to mention is they also make it really difficult for families with babies in nappies.

My council collects black bin waste once every 3 weeks. They offer an additional (very) small black box caddy for nappies, which is full within 5 days from one baby. I have tried to get another one, but the local collection areas haven’t had any spare for 6 months- oh and these cost £10 each. They won’t collect any extra nappies without the ‘special’ (stupid) box. We made the mistake of visiting my MIL for a long weekend on black bin week. Luckily, I learnt to dive very recently so I was able to take the extra black bags to the tip (though it took me a week to get an appointment). Otherwise, I would’ve had 6 weeks worth of nappies and rubbish just rotting in my garden (which again, some people don’t have access to).

I have family members who’ve had a toddler in nappies and newborn twins and I dread to think of how they manage that amount. Add any social issues, possibly parents who need extra support/are struggling and it’s just an extra issue that doesn’t get dealt with properly because even the most basic system of rubbish collection isn’t fit for purpose.

A lot of councils encourage parents to use cloth nappies, which would eliminate this problem and also help prevent unnecessary waste going to landfill. They are also better for babies skin. We used cloth nappies for our children even before finding out about council initiatives for them.

Amiacoolorwarmcolour · 25/02/2026 21:15

My local tip is free and is excellent. Lots of clearly signed areas. Yet some people still dump rubbish absolutely anywhere. It’s disgusting. Only yesterday as I walked through town and looked down virtually every gap between the flag stones had cigarette butts in them. Disgusting.
Some people are just scum. They really are. Even 20 metres from a bin people will throw rubbish. I think lots of British people are scrubbers there is no other word to describe them.
I went to the USA last year and the area I visited was immaculate. I didn’t even see street cleaners. When I mentioned it I was told that the people who live there are very proud of their town.
I think clamping down on fines and enforcing them is the way to go. Increasing the fines levied on businesses who fly tip. Maybe public signs clearly asking people is the reason they have littered because they are a pig etc. I’ve seen this is used in other countries. The poster says something like:
Stop! Is the reason you have littered;
a) because you are lazy
b) because you are a scrubber
c) because your parents brought you up to be scruffy

That would help I think.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/02/2026 21:17

Lougle · 25/02/2026 19:04

You used to be able to turn up at the tip whenever you wanted. People tend to do big clear outs, which means several trips to the tip in one day. Now, you have to book and you get one half-hour slot, which doesn't allow people to load, drop, return, load and drop.

People have smallish vehicles so hire someone to take their rubbish away, but they have to have a licence to get rid of waste. Cowboys don't get the licence and just dump it.

You don’t book at ours. You just turn up, join the massive queue and then get told to go home if the queue is too long.

Tips are a fucking nightmare in our city. Not enough and all on one side of the city, leaving the 250000 people on the other side with no tips.

MaryBeardsShoes · 25/02/2026 21:17

Because a significant proportion of British people are lazy, selfish, and entitled. They would rather whinge about the council than take responsibility for themselves.

Plmnki · 25/02/2026 21:18

OP, at the risk of being harsh, you are strangely ignorant of issues and costs around waste disposal. Read up on your local council info to see the problems.

Sesma · 25/02/2026 21:21

Cost of getting rid of one mattress if you buy it from somewhere like JL and they collect the old one, usually their own brand is £40. If the retailer doesn't take the old mattress, Clearabea is over £100, our council charges £40 and a long wait

Happyjoe · 25/02/2026 21:22

Ghht · 25/02/2026 20:32

Another thing I forgot to mention is they also make it really difficult for families with babies in nappies.

My council collects black bin waste once every 3 weeks. They offer an additional (very) small black box caddy for nappies, which is full within 5 days from one baby. I have tried to get another one, but the local collection areas haven’t had any spare for 6 months- oh and these cost £10 each. They won’t collect any extra nappies without the ‘special’ (stupid) box. We made the mistake of visiting my MIL for a long weekend on black bin week. Luckily, I learnt to dive very recently so I was able to take the extra black bags to the tip (though it took me a week to get an appointment). Otherwise, I would’ve had 6 weeks worth of nappies and rubbish just rotting in my garden (which again, some people don’t have access to).

I have family members who’ve had a toddler in nappies and newborn twins and I dread to think of how they manage that amount. Add any social issues, possibly parents who need extra support/are struggling and it’s just an extra issue that doesn’t get dealt with properly because even the most basic system of rubbish collection isn’t fit for purpose.

When did councils get precious about nappies? I must admit though in your situation I probably would've just hidden them in normal rubbish. Am all for helping councils do things their way, but not when they stop being sensible and supply things like an extra bin.