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To think this is beyond grim?

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stunnedbythis · 22/02/2026 18:16

I was talking to my mum this afternoon, she mentioned that one of her friends is celebrating thirty years living with his boyfriend. It suddenly occurred to me to ask how old they were when they met because her friend doesn't look old enough, and she said he was 18 and his boyfriend was about 32. I knew there was an age gap, but I can't help but think this is really, really grim.

My mum go really defensive about this as she's very close to her friend and to some extent his boyfriend too, but she said things were very different 30 years ago and that it was her friend who did all the chasing (she's know this friend since he was about 16/17 as they worked in the same shop for a while). She said he met this man in a pub and they just hit it off.

My mum is in her 60s now and has a very different outlook, I asked her how she'd feel if one of my children turned 18 and started dating someone in their thirties, but all she could say is "its different now". How is it different?? What am I missing?

OP posts:
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/02/2026 10:58

Ouch! Hope it improves pdq.

Comfortnotspeedy · 24/02/2026 11:01

Willmoris · 22/02/2026 18:32

30 years ago that relationship would have been taboo and hidden because of its homosexual nature. The age gap wouldn't have felt an issue in comparison.

Of course it wouldn’t. We’re talking
about the mid 1990s not the 1890s!!

Thechaseison71 · 24/02/2026 11:04

persephonia · 24/02/2026 10:53

Well the derail was talking about 15 year olds and "girls" pursuing men. And even if 16 is the age of consent a 16 year old "pursuing" an adult man is a bit of a trope.

I mustve missed the posts about 15 year old on this thread

Goditsmemargaret · 24/02/2026 11:17

Your judgemental attitude is what's grim.

Young people hanging out with old people, old people dating younger people ugh whatever next.

There's a good chance this man had moved out of home aged 18. I had. And if he was working full-time they would be the friends he'd make, like I did.

Being gay was different in the 90s. It was very cool to have a gay friend in some circles and it was hidden in others. Hence the dating pool was smaller. They probably got on great with their work colleagues as it was a good environment for them. Also 'knows how to party' meant takes drugs in my circles.

You sound ridiculous and boring. I would say your mum is a good laugh though.

BauhausOfEliott · 24/02/2026 11:45

RunMeOver · 23/02/2026 16:19

Is that true - that the fact of being at school or having left makes a difference to one's legal status?

I had thought it was simply a question of age, and that once someone turns 18 they have fully adult status and rights even while they are at school. This would include their parents not having any say over what they do, although we rely on maintaining some pretence that they do until after they leave school.

It isn't true, no. Once 18 you're legally an adult whether you're at school or not.

callmeLoretta1 · 24/02/2026 16:07

Imdunfer · 24/02/2026 07:46

MN outrage!

Young women who choose to form relationships with men earning a lot of money because they are well established in a good career, which they use to provide very nice things for their partner, are being preyed upon by those men!

Young women who choose to have a relationship with a sexually experienced self confident lover who makes her feel great about herself are being prayed upon by that man!

Men who are sexually attracted to sexually attractive young women are disgusting creeps!

No relationship with an age gap of ten years or more can possibly survive except coercively!

Ok this is ignorant bigotry. I know people like myself (17 year age gap) and my best friend of 30 years from high school (16 years age gap with her and her DH) who have lasted decades.

I thought as I said earlier, this narrow-mindedness died out decades ago. It just proves how backward, ignorant and narrow-minded some on here are. Me and DH (22 years marriage) and my best friend (25 years marriage) are still going strong. The ignorance and narrow-mindedness is pathetic. This is not the 1940s, this is 2026. Some of you really need to get with it.

And btw, neither of us are in 'coercive' relationships, how dare you?! Both of us women are the ones who proposed to our then boyfriends, we didn't wait for him/them to propose to us. Some of you are so backward you live in a tiny encloistered echo chamber from another time.

UncannyFanny · 24/02/2026 16:29

stunnedbythis · 22/02/2026 18:26

But that's not my point. What sort of person in their 30's would date someone in their teens???

You do realise the age thing is different for same sex couples because they don’t have the same biological body clock factors where large age gaps can be a problem? It’s actually more common to have large age gaps in gay relationship's than you might think.

Ariana12 · 24/02/2026 18:16

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 23/02/2026 07:21

I was 18 when I met my husband at work (then 33), we didn’t develop even a friendship until I was 20, and then we started socialising together, and got together when I was 21 and he was 36. We were together and married with four children for 23 wonderful years until
he suddenly died two years ago. There was nothing grim or weird about any part of our relationship, and certainly no power imbalance. I have friends ranging from almost 20yrs younger than me, to 30+ yrs older than me. Funnily enough, most of whom I’ve met in a working capacity, but who I now wouldn’t be without.

You should probably broaden your horizons OP, you may find your life is much fuller and more fulfilling.

🤗🤗

Purdycat82 · 24/02/2026 18:25

You come across as extremely uptight. Their relationship is literally none of your business, what are you hoping to get from this?! Are you hoping for everyone to agree and then you can show your mum or her friends? You have an issue with their age gap, you also don’t agree with people even having friends of different ages, and it comes across that you have an issue with their sexuality. You honestly need to unclench and mind your own business

Imdunfer · 24/02/2026 18:35

callmeLoretta1 · 24/02/2026 16:07

Ok this is ignorant bigotry. I know people like myself (17 year age gap) and my best friend of 30 years from high school (16 years age gap with her and her DH) who have lasted decades.

I thought as I said earlier, this narrow-mindedness died out decades ago. It just proves how backward, ignorant and narrow-minded some on here are. Me and DH (22 years marriage) and my best friend (25 years marriage) are still going strong. The ignorance and narrow-mindedness is pathetic. This is not the 1940s, this is 2026. Some of you really need to get with it.

And btw, neither of us are in 'coercive' relationships, how dare you?! Both of us women are the ones who proposed to our then boyfriends, we didn't wait for him/them to propose to us. Some of you are so backward you live in a tiny encloistered echo chamber from another time.

Edited

It was satire?

I was poking fun at MN outrage every time large age gaps are mentioned.

ForNoisyCat · 24/02/2026 18:57

stunnedbythis · 22/02/2026 18:26

But that's not my point. What sort of person in their 30's would date someone in their teens???

One of my early boyfriends was that man and I was that 17yo. We dated for two years til I thought he was old and fuddy duddy. Looking back it is odd to me but it was equal, caring snd mostly healthy relationship.

ForNoisyCat · 24/02/2026 18:58

ToKittyornottoKitty · 22/02/2026 18:35

Someone who found the right person for them, they’ve been together 30 years and are happy. Put your judgy pants away and get on with your life

They haven’t been together 30 years - the younger one is only 18. The mum has been friends with the older guy for 30yrs.

AntoinetteNoCake · 24/02/2026 18:59

My Nan met her partner when he was 21 and she was early 40’s. You can imagine what some family members said! However, they were the light of each others lives for 40 years. She died last year (a week before their 40th anniversary) with dementia, one of the last memories she told me about was about the day when she first saw him. He was devoted to her. He died quite suddenly (pancreatic cancer) just 3 months after her. I nursed him to the end and we became very close. She was incredible and so was he.

LaughingCat · 24/02/2026 19:03

I was a teenager around that time - when I went out, I hung out with people my age and the people we all worked with, so mostly late twenties to mid thirties. I was taken to my first gigs by a 28yo when I was 14/15 (no grooming involved - we were always just friends).

Is this a thing now - staying only within your own age range for friendships?! I find that really weird. My friends have always ranged from a few years younger to a decade or two older. You get a range of different viewpoints and approaches to life. That’s a lovely thing!

Thechaseison71 · 24/02/2026 20:00

ForNoisyCat · 24/02/2026 18:58

They haven’t been together 30 years - the younger one is only 18. The mum has been friends with the older guy for 30yrs.

stunnedbythis · 22/02/2026 18:16

I was talking to my mum this afternoon, she mentioned that one of her friends is celebrating thirty years living with his boyfriend. It suddenly occurred to me to ask how old they were when they met because her friend doesn't look old enough, and she said he was 18 and his boyfriend was about

So why are they celebrating 30 years together if he's only 18?

moderate · 24/02/2026 20:15

stunnedbythis · 22/02/2026 18:26

But that's not my point. What sort of person in their 30's would date someone in their teens???

The sort of person who is still married to them 30 years later, apparently.

moderate · 24/02/2026 20:18

ForNoisyCat · 24/02/2026 18:58

They haven’t been together 30 years - the younger one is only 18. The mum has been friends with the older guy for 30yrs.

Read the OP again.

I was talking to my mum this afternoon, she mentioned that one of her friends is celebrating thirty years living with his boyfriend.

Beenwhereyouareagain · 24/02/2026 20:25

FuzzyWolf · 22/02/2026 18:29

Times change. Some of the most significant monarchs of the country were born to women in their early teens.

As the years ago by, we learn better and act better.

😳😳😳

Ponoka7 · 24/02/2026 20:47

stunnedbythis · 22/02/2026 18:26

But that's not my point. What sort of person in their 30's would date someone in their teens???

Teenagers thirty years ago were as sensible as adults, or rather could be. People didn't need I.D you could be drinking in pubs from 14, I was and so were my friends. The early 90s was peak rave culture, all ages mixed. I was in gay clubs in the 90s, all ages danced together etc. Gay men were still getting a difficult time in many workplaces. It was 1995 when Princess Diana stepped up her campaign in England to end stigma on transmission. You can connect over, music, hobbies, interests, films, politics, age doesn't stop that. Being gay men in the 90s took having children out of the equation. You don't know if they started out having sex, sex could be a death sentence. They should absolutely go all out celebrating 30 years together.

everydaysaschoolda · 24/02/2026 21:00

times have changed massively. When I was 15 my boyfriend in his early 20’s (so not as not as big an age gap as your couple) would collect me at lunch time from school and sometimes after school. He was at my house constantly and got on well with my parents. He was older than my older brother. No one batted an eyelid. My DD is 16 and I couldn’t imagine a boyfriend in his 20s coming to the house to collect her, her dad certainly wouldn’t cope 🤣

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 24/02/2026 21:26

RunMeOver · 23/02/2026 00:29

Why the fuck do they have to justify to you what they have in common, or be judged "grim"? People socialise with who they want to socialise with, for whatever reasons of their own they may or may not be able to articulate.

I honestly don't get why some people on this forum are so obsessed by this issue, and seem to think they have a seat on some solemn Relationship Approval Panel that consenting adults have to apply to before they're allowed to fraternise together. Is it because if they can't show what they have in common, it might mean the relationship is mainly motivated by SEX? Which is of course an absolutely evil reason to have a relationship.

Even one that lasts for 30 years.

'Solemn Relationship Approval Panel.' 😆

I feel like my mother would have been on something like this, along with a couple of my aunts, and several neighbours.

SouthernNights59 · 24/02/2026 21:37

ApplesinmyPocket · 23/02/2026 22:17

" I have an 18 year old and the thought of her being with a 30 odd year old, it would just be wrong. She's barely out of childhood."

You must live in quite privileged circumstances. My mother was widowed in her 40s, and when I was 15 it was made clear to me I had to contribute to the family income, so I had to get two weekend jobs. I was at grammar school at the time so it wasn't easy, but we were happy enough.

I certainly can't think of 18 year olds as 'just out of childhood'. MN is loony on this issue.

Agree. I started full time work just after my 16th birthday, my friend had her first child the same month she turned 18, my DF started his working life at 14. Somehow we have all turned out as well rounded people. not a MH issue between the lot of us. "Barely out of childhood" is just nonsense.

Bedlingtonwarrior · 24/02/2026 23:59

Together after 30 years!!!!
You get less sentence for murder
Congratulatins to them for a successful loving relationship.
And keep your comments to yourself
.
For context I met MY wife when she was 21 and I was 32 and we have been married unbelievable happy for 40 years and have 2 wonderful adult children

Andouillette · 25/02/2026 00:26

My takeaway from this thread? What an extraordinary thing for OP to get all catbum-faced about. I hope the couple concerned are very happy.

callmeLoretta1 · 25/02/2026 04:28

Imdunfer · 24/02/2026 18:35

It was satire?

I was poking fun at MN outrage every time large age gaps are mentioned.

Edited

Damn! I misread it. I am really sorry! 😳