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Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

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busymomtoone · 19/02/2026 21:55

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

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NewAgain123 · 24/02/2026 07:09

No, he deserves to rot in jail, vile man

Roadtripwithpretzels · 24/02/2026 08:19

Skybunnee · 24/02/2026 07:07

He had his guns removed a few weeks ago in Dec , think that means you are a suicide risk -but there are other ways -that’ll get you all cheering from the rafters.

That’s rather unfair. Whose cheering from the rafters? Most people are upset about Virginia Giuffre’s suicide and the fate of other vulnerable female victims, and want him to face proper justice.

And if he is in a poor state psychologically, even if he is a serious suicide risk, AMW still has far more choices than the ordinary person facing a similar self-inflicted life crisis.

He has access to the best private doctors and psychiatrists, could no doubt seek in-house treatment in a London clinic if he liaised with police, and he still has the financial and practical support of his family, above and beyond any ordinary person.

For example, his family could afford to provide him with around the clock support from psychiatric nurses if they so wish.

He also has what a normal person would consider a wonderful idyllic country “cottage” and location, and presumably horses to ride, staff to shop, cook, clean and do his laundry. There is over sixty acres of gardens at Sandringham and vast parkland which he can access when it’s not open to the public.

He is now finally facing the consequences of his behaviour, but let’s face it, he has less chance of going to trial and prison than the ordinary person because he can afford the best lawyers and his family has enormous wealth and influence.

So, even now, facing public shame and a serious police investigation, he still has choices.

He could for example make a decision to work on his physical and mental
health, and get up every morning early and work with a personal trainer, or horse ride with a groom in beautiful surroundings. Followed by a healthy breakfast supplied and cooked for him. And so on, every day.

He could build a daily schedule around seeing his lawyer, vicar, or psychiatrist, of all three, without any thought to cost and work on his mental health, examine his own character, and seek to change, and pursue a different life and purpose, and do so within a protected bubble of privacy and paid support around him, if he really wants to make the effort.

It’s not as though he has a pesky job, or even basic household maintenance tasks, or any other commitments getting in his way!

He may even still have one or two friends who he can afford to fly or have driven in and accommodate and his staff will look after.

He is not without choices or resources.

ThatCyanCat · 24/02/2026 08:26

That’s rather unfair. Whose cheering from the rafters?

I think she was alluding to other forms of suicide.

Roadtripwithpretzels · 24/02/2026 09:01

ThatCyanCat · 24/02/2026 08:26

That’s rather unfair. Whose cheering from the rafters?

I think she was alluding to other forms of suicide.

Yeah I understood what that poster meant.

I still stand by my post.

The guy has choices even now.

He can choose to stand up and face what he has done and buy in a load of support to help him do that.

scottishgirl69 · 24/02/2026 10:52

Skybunnee · 24/02/2026 07:07

He had his guns removed a few weeks ago in Dec , think that means you are a suicide risk -but there are other ways -that’ll get you all cheering from the rafters.

That's an awful thing to say. I lost someone to suicide when I was 21. It's not something I cheer on.

scottishgirl69 · 24/02/2026 12:43

My relative who died by suicide drowned himself. It took a month to find his body and I was going to uni one day and saw police divers going in the other direction to search the river Clyde looking for his body.

Im not a Royalist - I would get rid of the Royal family yesterday but I really hope on reflection that you might realise @Skybunnee that some people on this thread (probably not just my family) have actually been through this - and I don't sit cheering when someone takes their own life.

The aftermath of a suicide is terrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

AnotherHormonalWoman · 24/02/2026 12:47

Skybunnee · 24/02/2026 07:07

He had his guns removed a few weeks ago in Dec , think that means you are a suicide risk -but there are other ways -that’ll get you all cheering from the rafters.

Kindly, you can fuck right off.

Signed,
A mumsnetter who had to go an identify the body of a loved one lost to suicide. I will spare you the fucking details.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/02/2026 19:00

Skybunnee · 24/02/2026 07:07

He had his guns removed a few weeks ago in Dec , think that means you are a suicide risk -but there are other ways -that’ll get you all cheering from the rafters.

Nah, that would be awful for the minions who would have to clean it up.

I'd far rather he was tried and if found guilty were to live a very long life of abject misery at the loss of his position.

SophieJo · 24/02/2026 19:04

Never liked him since he sprayed reporters in Los Angeles in 1984 with white paint whilst touring a housing rehab project.which he found very amusing! They didn’t.

Eastie77Returns · 24/02/2026 19:06

I could at a stretch feel a smidgen of sympathy for the daughters. They’ve apparently been on the take as well and have associated with awful characters but it seems they were groomed into that lifestyle by their parents. Fergie taking them to see a newly recently released sex offender when they were barely out of their teens. There are no words. You feel that there was very little chance they’d turn into sensible, hardworking young women with those two hideous characters as role models.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 25/02/2026 06:03

Lots of people facing jail contemplate suicide. They get put on suicide watch in there. Still go though.

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