Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

[busymomtoone]

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

Absolutely not.

No.

He treated people appallingly.
He Is thoroughly unpleasant. A close relative of mine was one of his protection officers. He is incredibly discreet and I’ve never heard him swear but he has only ever referred to Andrew as c*.

No!!!!!!!!

That poor girl killer herself because of him, just remember that

No. I feel sorry for his alleged (for now) victims, and for his children.

I would be absolutely mortified to share even a single DNA strand with him.

No!

No, absolutely not.

Sorry: no. I think this is a cautionary tale of what wealth and privilege can conceal.

No
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I think it’s possible to feel compassion for the 11yo child who was failed so utterly - for every child born into that cold, dysfunctional shitshow of a family - while retaining utter disdain and contempt for the fully grown adult who has learned nothing on his journey to adulthood and sees young women as no more than toilet paper for him and his rich friends to consume.

I feel sorry for teenage Anna Duggar who was sold into sexual slavery by her crazy Quiverfull parents and denied any meaningful education. I don’t feel sorry for the fully-grown woman and mother of 7 who continues to make appalling choices and seems more concerned about other women having reproductive rights than the fact that her children’s father is a paedophile. Two things can be true at the same time.

I wouldn’t say sympathy. But more like, what a waste. He could have done anything. He had money, resources, fame, and time, and he didn’t just waste it, he actively caused harm with it.

I’ve not heard this brothel story you mention but yes, I’d say that is obviously unacceptable treatment of a child, no matter what the child grows up to do.

No

I wonder if he felt a tiny bit sorry for VG or any of the other trafficked or coerced women he assaulted...?

Overwhelming numbers of criminals come from dysfunctional families, and were abused in one way or another in childhood. The difference is that most of them are poor. Do you weep for them too?

Nope,not at all.

Absolutely fucking not. And I am an empath!!

No.

No, every privilege he enjoyed to date has been at the expense of women. Their lives, their reputations, their pain. He does not deserve sympathy.

You know who I've felt sorry for today? Hos victims who will have to take comfort on the fact that he's been arrested for something.

I do wonder if he’s become the fall guy for a shed load of others guilty of far more. If he’s guilty then it’s born of arrogance.. feeling he is entitled and above the law. While of course this is wrong on every level, he has been bred to think this.
I do sort of feel sorry for someone having such a public fall from grace.. but then it’s the price of all his privileges.

He didn't even have the nuance to cut ties after Epstein was charged . He could have admitted his appalling behavior too . But he arrogantly continued to support and visit . Now Mummy isn't around to bail him out he is on his own . Fergie no help and his daughters can not be seen to support him. Finally he is dealing with the consequences of his decisions.

I don’t feel sorry for him, and I hope the legal process can come to a just conclusion. I feel sorry for the victims and disgust at the callous disregard for them. I’m shocked at the appalling way he and others have behaved.

In the photos he looks broken, small, and very exposed. I do recognise that he is going through something very difficult, entirely justly and of his own doing, but I note on a human level that he must be in a very dark and difficult place.

Not sorry for him in the slightest, he looks indignant and afraid because he’s finally facing the consequences of his actions. His driver or security looks he’s had just about enough j on f him and wishes he’d just fuck off.

I can’t imagine he’ll be doing to an empty house, I imagine he will have staff.

The man is an entitled weasel and he’s just potentially being held to account.

Pathological empathy.

It’s actually really unhelpful to the cause of reducing sex crimes to paint those who carry them out as monsters or somehow separate from the human race, instead of recognising that it’s a societal problem and that most of the perpetrators are ‘normal’ men.