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Despite his villainous behaviour, anyone feel a teeny bit sorry for Andrew?

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busymomtoone · 19/02/2026 21:55

Before I get totally flamed, I despise his attitude, and the things he appears to have done - particularly the subsequent lying and apparent determination to shield/ hide misdemeanours. However, seeing the photo of his release today looking a broken man after such huge public downfall , plus thinking of him going back to an empty house on his birthday with no family support - even though I initially felt he deserves every indignity and consequence - there’s still a teeny part of me that just can’t help feeling just a little bit sorry for him. If it’s true that he was taken to a brothel at age 11 , whilst it would in no way excuse abusing others , it means he has also been a victim of abuse. Additionally it seems the Queen and his entourage have never ever said no to him in his whole life- so to reach his 7th decade before any consequences hit makes me question how resilient he will be able to be. Obviously main sympathies are always rightly with any victims , but even the most hardened and perpetual criminals often retain family support, he seems to have nobody. ( albeit if his own making ) or am I just being too soft?!

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MissAdvantage · 21/02/2026 13:41

I know one of his ex protection officers. The things I heard! This is a deeply unpleasant man - a horrible temper and terrible attitude . Spoke to people with contempt and like shit

and that’s before we get to anything criminal

everypageisempty · 21/02/2026 14:00

simpsonthecat · 20/02/2026 14:08

There is so much wrong with every paragraph of your post that I honestly do not know where to begin.
It's the usual stuff by Royalists and a lot of massaging of actual facts.

Agree, it's royal PR that is founded on rubbish.

Plenty of countries do just find tourism wise based on a 'past' monarchy...

ThatCyanCat · 21/02/2026 14:05

topcat2014 · 21/02/2026 10:17

If they cut Andrew off presumably the ones below him go as well?

I don't think it necessarily would remove his daughters from the line. They still have their princess titles (they were bestowed by Letters Patent, so not dependent on his being a prince. Fergie's courtesy title did rest on his title of duke, so she lost it and is no longer a duchess).

AcquadiP · 21/02/2026 14:32

No. The image of him leaving the police station is of a man in deep shock because he has spent his entire spoilt, arrogant, entitled life believing he was untouchable.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2026 14:36

HawkinsLabsColdwarEra · 20/02/2026 14:32

fair points, but it would certainly be lots less $$ from tourism etc overall , that is indisputable

France gets more tourists to their royal palaces and they beheaded their Royal Family during the French revolution. It's a myth that the Royal Family brings in more tourist revenue.

Discoated · 21/02/2026 14:38

BeanQuisine · 21/02/2026 11:41

He would have cheered up once he got home and stuffed himself with birthday cake and gin.

"Those coppers think they're better than me," he would have mumbled, shovelling in another slice, "but they have to shine their own shoes!"

"Shine their own fucking shoes, can you imagine?" And he would have sprayed cake everywhere while bursting into weird laughter, and raising his middle finger at an imaginary "copper".

🤔😆

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2026 14:47

WineBeforeWhine · 20/02/2026 21:27

I don’t feel sorry for him, but I do think people ought to lay off the bullying because we don’t want an unhappy outcome. You can only push someone so far.

Who the fuck is bullying him? Reports from his police protection team make it very clear that Andrew was an entitled bully to anyone that he felt was beneath him. No-one complained to the Queen as they knew that he was her favourite and she wouldn't care about his horrible behaviour.

Obviously that pales into insignificance in light of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged abuse of trafficked girls and the sharing of classified and confidential information with Epstein which sounds like treason to me.

AInightingale · 21/02/2026 14:56

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2026 10:07

This is quite the move. When was the last time this happened?

Happened in 1936 when Edward VIII abdicated, in case he and Wallis had children - they would have had a claim to the throne ahead of the late Queen, presumably.
The only other one I can think of is the 'Old Pretender' who was James II's son - James being deposed and his descendants denied succession rights because the Protestant monarchs William and Mary took over at that point. Which is why the UK ended up with a line of German kings.

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 19:45

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 09:00

Why was that woman paid off?

I expect it was because he had sex with her when she was 17. I’ve already said I knew that. What has it got to do with my last post, to which you were replying?

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:46

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 19:45

I expect it was because he had sex with her when she was 17. I’ve already said I knew that. What has it got to do with my last post, to which you were replying?

Sorry what - why are you picking me out on here? I don't appreciate it

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 19:53

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:46

Sorry what - why are you picking me out on here? I don't appreciate it

What? I’m "picking you out" purely because in your post of 09:00 you quoted mine of 06:32, so I assumed you were replying to it.

WineBeforeWhine · 21/02/2026 19:53

thepariscrimefiles · 21/02/2026 14:47

Who the fuck is bullying him? Reports from his police protection team make it very clear that Andrew was an entitled bully to anyone that he felt was beneath him. No-one complained to the Queen as they knew that he was her favourite and she wouldn't care about his horrible behaviour.

Obviously that pales into insignificance in light of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged abuse of trafficked girls and the sharing of classified and confidential information with Epstein which sounds like treason to me.

See my later response

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:54

BeanQuisine · 21/02/2026 11:41

He would have cheered up once he got home and stuffed himself with birthday cake and gin.

"Those coppers think they're better than me," he would have mumbled, shovelling in another slice, "but they have to shine their own shoes!"

"Shine their own fucking shoes, can you imagine?" And he would have sprayed cake everywhere while bursting into weird laughter, and raising his middle finger at an imaginary "copper".

Don't be ridiculous - have you ever been arrested and taken into custody?

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:56

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 19:45

I expect it was because he had sex with her when she was 17. I’ve already said I knew that. What has it got to do with my last post, to which you were replying?

Right - you were worried about the lynch mob. What's your stance on Andrew and his behaviour BTW? Just asking - are you pro Royal - you think he's getting too much of a tough time in the media?

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 20:27

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:56

Right - you were worried about the lynch mob. What's your stance on Andrew and his behaviour BTW? Just asking - are you pro Royal - you think he's getting too much of a tough time in the media?

My "stance on Andrew and his behaviour"? I think by all accounts he’s an arrogant, loathsome, vile man who thought he could behave however he wanted and was above the law or any "normal" standards of decent behaviour.

Am I pro-Royal? I’m on the fence. I don’t much like the idea of royals but possibly the alternative could be worse, e.g. President Trump or President Farage. God knows why people like or vote for them, but they do.

Do I think he’s getting too much of a tough time in the media? Not in what I’ve read on BBC website, the Times or the Guardian, but I gather there are much more extreme comments elsewhere, with ridiculous-sounding theories and rumours being spread there and on social media, with no evidence. That’s what I object to.

Do I pass your purity test?

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 20:30

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 20:27

My "stance on Andrew and his behaviour"? I think by all accounts he’s an arrogant, loathsome, vile man who thought he could behave however he wanted and was above the law or any "normal" standards of decent behaviour.

Am I pro-Royal? I’m on the fence. I don’t much like the idea of royals but possibly the alternative could be worse, e.g. President Trump or President Farage. God knows why people like or vote for them, but they do.

Do I think he’s getting too much of a tough time in the media? Not in what I’ve read on BBC website, the Times or the Guardian, but I gather there are much more extreme comments elsewhere, with ridiculous-sounding theories and rumours being spread there and on social media, with no evidence. That’s what I object to.

Do I pass your purity test?

There's no purity test. Please don't respond to me again. I have had my fill of people like you on this platform. Go and make your snide digs at someone else

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 20:34

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 20:30

There's no purity test. Please don't respond to me again. I have had my fill of people like you on this platform. Go and make your snide digs at someone else

I'm very happy to end our conversation, but please remember it was you who first responded to me.

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 20:35

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 20:34

I'm very happy to end our conversation, but please remember it was you who first responded to me.

Good.

1dayatatime · 21/02/2026 21:06

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 21/02/2026 20:27

My "stance on Andrew and his behaviour"? I think by all accounts he’s an arrogant, loathsome, vile man who thought he could behave however he wanted and was above the law or any "normal" standards of decent behaviour.

Am I pro-Royal? I’m on the fence. I don’t much like the idea of royals but possibly the alternative could be worse, e.g. President Trump or President Farage. God knows why people like or vote for them, but they do.

Do I think he’s getting too much of a tough time in the media? Not in what I’ve read on BBC website, the Times or the Guardian, but I gather there are much more extreme comments elsewhere, with ridiculous-sounding theories and rumours being spread there and on social media, with no evidence. That’s what I object to.

Do I pass your purity test?

I agree that unfortunately there are frequently posters that create or repeat conspiracy theories with no evidence to back them up. I have no idea on what their motivations are.

That said I do think it's important to call out such misinformation and conspiracy theories and stick to the truth.

BeanQuisine · 21/02/2026 22:15

scottishgirl69 · 21/02/2026 19:54

Don't be ridiculous - have you ever been arrested and taken into custody?

Eh?

TiredCatLady · 21/02/2026 22:47

That face in that awful picture that will live decades beyond him. That picture is an overprivileged shitstain finally realising he’s out of rope.
Amazing isn’t it? Not a single solitary person bar LVH has said anything in his favour over the last few years.
And she hasn’t even waded in this time. Really says something about a person that they are so universally held in low regard or, let’s face it, outright reviled that no one, absolutely no one, not even their own children say a word to their defence.
The argument as to whether he’s a Grade A prick who has pissed off anyone and everyone his whole miserable life, is now, not even academic.
He’s finally made it to the FO part of FAFO and there’s no longer anyone left to protect him.

anxiousmum1998 · 21/02/2026 23:00

Not in the slightest .The man is a sick ,twisted individual who deserves every thing he gets .I feel sorry the children he abused not him

LizzieW1969 · 21/02/2026 23:03

Sorry, who is LVH?

Ebok1990 · 21/02/2026 23:06

LizzieW1969 · 21/02/2026 23:03

Sorry, who is LVH?

Lady Victoria Harvey.