DH running with dd(8) at 5am

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Dh has always got up everyday at 5am to go for a run. No problem, it briefly wakes me up but he doesn’t turn the light on or make noise so I fall straight back to sleep.

Last couple of weeks he’s started taking 8 year old dd with him and it’s annoying me so much.

He tries to keep her quiet and get her down the stairs and out the door without waking anyone but it’s just so much louder having an 8 year old up and awake. Younger dc are sometimes waking up and coming into me.

I also feel I can’t fall back to sleep knowing she’s out there in the dark which I know is very silly, I don’t worry about her when she’s out with him in the day but it just feels different knowing she’s not in bed.

She’s very slim and does dance, gymnastics, football and skating every week so definitely doesn’t need the exercise. It’s just seems so unnecessary.

She tripped the other morning and came back in his arms in tears screaming she’d broke her ankle. She was fine, she’s just really dramatic but it made us all late for school. I know it wasn’t his fault but I couldn’t help feeling like it was as it wouldn’t have happened if he had just left her in bed.

I’m being completely unreasonable aren’t I? Would anyone else be annoyed by this?

This is just a tired old trope. For the last 20
years people have been explaining on the internet to those who churn this out that portion sizes differ by country and the nhs clearly says AT LEAST.

it’s quite a self hating Brit trope EVERYTHING IS BETTER IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY ALL BRITS ARE THICK APART FROM ME and it’s old.

What’s research got to do with claiming to have a world leading health system? They’re very different things

Totally agree that this should be a consideration. I have suffered from this since I was about 10yrs of age. I have been left with a huge bone spur just under my right kneecap...have never been able to kneel on a hard surface ever since.

Except I didn't say anything like that 😂

But NHS advice is not the same as "best advice" - it's advice that needs to be realistic for the majority of the population (in terms of affordability, availability and ability to cook).

I'm also not British.

I think 5am is too early on a school day ,its great she's spending time with him and doing something healthy but I think its too early.

Oh sweet summer child. You do realise that in order to produce world leading clinical research, you need a world leading healthcare system to conduct it in?!

it's advice that needs to be realistic for the majority of the population (in terms of affordability, availability and ability to cook).

as it is across the world.

She goes to bed at 7.30 so gets plenty of sleep.

Lots of people are early birds - sounds like she's one of them.

Sure, so why do other countries recommend more than 5 then?

Goodness I must be forgetting all the time I worked in international healthcare research in the university sector 🤯

They also recommend different portion sizes as above. Ie Japans 10-12 portions are the same size in grams as the UK’s five.

They do - because variety is more important than amounts.

That's why there's now guidance to eat 30+ plants a week.

He already does.

its just the op being anxious that DD is out in the dark running that's stopping her going back to sleep.

Oh wow. You have a lot of misplaced faith in the Uk and its use of evidence to make guidelines. I mean the NHS still says to wait until 6 months to start feeding babies solids when more recent research shows it should be started earlier to prevent allergies. The UK has only just added the chickenpox vaccine to the schedule after claiming for years that it would increase shingles rates while small countries like mine followed the evidence and acted accordingly. And in regards to exercise recommendations, when I've given you a study that shows that British children are less fit than ones that are encouraged to exercise more are you still going to think UK guidelines are better?

You'll know how behind the times the NHS is then, and how resistant to any new ideas actually going from research to practice.

got an answer for everything haven’t you, you? If nhs recommended 30 plants you’d be suggesting copying some random superior guideline from Albania or similar next

Unfortunately it seems that this is a case where the parents need to say "No, not yet, wait un til.you are older".
Thefact that she wants to go running isn't really relevant at this age.

Yes, so the ground breaking I research we did on HIV wasn’t connected NHS guidence or the UK healthcare system

which is er… what I said a page ago.

I think if she’s going to bed as you say by 8pm, up at 5, that’s 9 hours. I think at 8yrs that’s ok but a little on the light side kidshealth.org recommends 9-12 hours with 10-11 being usual.

Are you sure about that? It's not watered down to the lowest common denominator in my country.

Kinda hoping your research papers made a bit more sense than that!

Where have I said Uk guidelines are better?!

I am suggesting no one would stan Finland in the face of a portion of the whole world routinely recommending one hour of exercise for children.

You make very odd assumptions and seem to get very angry whenever anyone suggests the NHS may not be the gold standard for health advice 😂

5 portions of fruit and veg a day is incredibly old and outdated advice. Seeing as the NHS can't even get that right, I wouldn't be relying on them to recommend a decent amount of exercise for people either.

Why?

She gets plenty of sleep, she wants to go and she's with her dad.

Where did I say it was watered down to the lowest common denominator (what a highly offensive thing to say about people btw)

the “lowest common denominator” in the uk or Finland is someone who can’t read, write or maybe has learning difficulties which renders them unable to comprehend advice

Its very clearly not aimed at those people