Lied to get a jab now friend is angry

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I don’t understand why my friend is annoyed at me as it doesn’t effect anyone else.. part of me thinks it’s jealousy but she’s not speaking to me because I told her how I managed to lose 1.5stone.
backstory- I lied to get an online prescription by saying I was about 1.5stone heavier than I was then when I needed to send photos I just made my scales say more to match the weight I submitted. Not exactly a difficult lie but it worked and I’ve had 2pens of mounjaro 2.5 and I’m now 8.5stone. I feel great, the size I want to be and no side effects so yes I feel smug that my lie worked and I lost the weight easy.
well my friend who has been trying to lose weight too but not via jabs is furious saying I should be ashamed of myself.
surely it doesn’t effect anyone else? I paid full price so can’t be blamed for stealing from the nhs

And proved her ability to lie to get what she wants.

Nope. These are things that are listed as rare side effects, not common ones. My DH is on Mounjaro - type 2 diabetes to regulate blood sugar. Patients are evaluated before prescribing, to assess the level of risk. And WLI doesn’t directly cause gallstones or necessitate gallbladder removal. How overweight you are at the start of your weigh loss, and how fast you lose the weight are the factors for developing gallstones. There’s a saying called the three F’s which still holds true. Fat, forty and female are the main predictors.

Type 2 diabetes already puts you at higher risk of eyesight problems, pancreatitis and impaired kidney function. DH also has cardio vascular disease and is in chronic heart failure. We were advised that the benefits of mounjaro in improving his overall condition, with particular benefits to kidney and cardio vascular function, as well as reducing his glucose levels to within normal range, far outweighed any risk factors.

Why is she a crap friend ? She didn’t lie to her friend about using WLI, she just didn’t tell her. It’s none of her friends’ business anyway. And if a ‘friend’ kicked off at me after finding WLI in my fridge they’d be shown the door.

This. You didn’t tell her. You were acting like you had shed the weight loss the hard way and she caught you in a lie!
You lied .
Crap friend.

This isn’t about jabs.

Not telling someone isn’t lying.

crap friend 😂

How did she lie if she didn’t mention it ? It’s not even a lie by omission - it’s medical information and the friend doesn’t have a right to be informed.

The OP has said they weren’t losing weight together. She hasn’t said she was ‘acting’ like anything.

Clearly people have expectations of friendships waaaaay above what’s normal. Not telling someone how you’re losing weight isn’t lying.

I think this is the crux of it. Whatever side of the fence you sit I think many people (women especially) are messed up about weight because of how much of our worth is put on how we look from pressure in the media and a patriarchal society. As much as I don’t think anyone has any right to be “pissed off” I still understand why they are, how many of us have wished there was an easy way to just be the perfect weight? If you’ve never had to worry about your weight you might not get it, but I suspect the majority do. Now there is an easy answer but it’s not universally available. To add to the frustration now huge swathes of society are getting slimmer which is putting more pressure on whose who aren’t.

I think it’s caused some resentment, and for some that bubbles up as anger.

I'm sorry, brand new here! Not even sure this is how to reply to you. Sorry again

@Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala @zzaaghd @DotAndCarryOne2

I have a circle of close friends. Anyone who is in my fridge is a close friend as I am not having casuals in my home ! My home is my castle ! So a close friend ….who is trying to lose weight….. while I’m bragging but using the jabs! No wonder this friend is hurt.
Op Says she was abit cocky.

It would be like saying my child isn’t having any help from me for the 11plus exam and then my friend finding out my child has been having a private tutor for 1 year !!!
! And then me saying well I said he wasn’t having help from me - I didn’t say he wasn’t having help from someone else ! all the while bragging about how smart the child is for passing and your friends son failing - not having had the advantage.

Okay If you think op isn’t lying but it’s omitting and that’s the same to me !!!
Did you have sex with that woman ? Man answers no.
He tells his friends- well I didn’t have sex but we did x , y and z ! But she didn’t ask me that !!!!

crap friend !

Very few people don’t loose their appetite. Otherwise millions wouldn’t be on these drugs for solely weight loss reasons.

To me the issue is playing with your health like that. You know when you inject yourself with hormones or anything like that your body often adjusts how much of that thing it makes itself which is why people end up having to go up doses and also why we put on more weight when we come off them. These drugs, like most, have an affect in how our bodies process food but also on hormones, microbes etc and these can be hard to reverse. If you only have 1.5stone to lose, you have a relatively healthy metabolism, by taking drugs you can alter your hormones and how your body metabolises food.

I am overweight and I used wli because I have insulin resistance, hypothyroidism and my body doesn’t shift weight no matter how much I diet or exercise (lost 3 stone and 3 stone to go). I strongly believe my metabolism and insulin absorption got damaged because I did all the unhealthy diets etc… as a teen when I was a healthy weight. If I had a healthy metabolism I wouldn’t go near wli as they can change how your body works and you may find that your metabolism becomes less effective.

Yes, and there are quite a few millions that have a different reaction to the drug.

But are also getting weight loss benefits without strong appetite suppression.

Because appetite suppression isn't the only thing the drug does.

@zzaaghd you're right definitely about weight loss between women being entrenched because we can't escape it.
I grew up in the seventies, diet culture was even more toxic than it is now, my mum was fat and constantly on a diet that started every Monday and had failed by Wednesday, that's what I saw as a kid.
I was a teenager in the eighties and naturally very slim, it was almost revered as a positive attribute in and of itself and I'm a bit ashamed to say that I felt superior because my mum also leaned into praising me heavily for being ultra thin.
I put weight on over the years and became disordered with eating no diet ever really worked and my self esteem was always tied up with my weight, there was always a constant power battle between me and my sil, when I first met her I was a size 6,and she was slim too, she was a model, then life happened and both of us put weight on but there was always that 'competition' element to our relationship re weight, my mil was very weight obsessed too.
Anyway to get to the point, I have been on WLI and am now a size 6 again, easy peasy, she however cannot tolerate them/does not respond, so is basically still fat, she is much wealthier than we are and is fucking furious to the point of being outright hostile, that I'm much thinner than her and she can't 'buy' her thinness, it's massively fucked up.

lying about one’s weight.

Agree, I’m lucky, I’m on them, irs been hugely successful. Had I been unable to afford,and my self worth tied up in my weight, or desperately unhappy about it, I could see how I could be jealous, I went on them for health reasons. As are many many others. Not aesthetics. That was the cherry on the cake.

but I simply can’t see how that jealousy would ever cause me to attack people on them, make stuff up and post it, be angry and resentful, it’s not the people on thems fault they exist and others can’t access,

As the saying goes. don’t hate the players, hate the game.

So what?

Wellmletsvjopecyou tont getvgdllstones You wont be smug then!!

Lets try that again Well lets hope you dont get gallstones - you wont be smug then!!

Gall stones are quite avoidable with the right diet, they’re not inevitable, they’re a risk of any rapid weight loss plan. She’s not going to be on it very long compared to most and will not have the same rapid weight loss.

@THEDEACON 😂 no one I know personally on mj has had gallstones, pancreatititis 'piled the weight back on', gone blind 😂,!?!, shit themselves, or any of the other stupid alarmist bullshit being peddled around mj.
I do know Of these side effects of course, and they have obviously affected some people, but they are rare, the mundane reality is a bit of constipation, nausea, a bit of hair loss, and tiredness, boring I know,
The main side effect is consistent and effective weight loss, end of.
Oh and I know A LOT of people on WLI, more of my circle /family are on than off.
Some like me are staying on a small dose for the added benefits. calm brain, loss of inflammation, easing of joint pain. To name a few.

@GiwingpatIndeed. Most of the side effects listed are a result in lifestyle alongside the jabs, not the jabs themselves. If users follow the advice carefully, the likelihood of side effects is much reduced.

I think that’s where some people talk about ‘hard work’, if your diet is very unhealthy and you carry on with the jabs, you’re going to be in for a rough time of it, you will either be hit with side effects, or you realise you need a radical mind shift and change in life style, both of which are hard to deal with. And ironically, those who are not hugely overweight may not be impacted by this in the same way.

The OP said she hasn’t been smug towards her friend. Where has she said she’s been bragging ?

I’m internally smug- from the outside I have kept it quiet. She only found out cos she was looking in my fridge. The reaction I got I thought she had found crack in there

Eh?

They know this, they know they are incredibly safe meds, they just resent the hell out the fact people can get them and they can’t,