Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

[KillTheTurkey]

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

And as for the title- how arrogant and condescending can you get.

Guess the MET must be wrong then.

I used to volunteer with Southall Black Sisters. Huge unreported domestic violence in the Asian community. Improving as women get more educated and financially independent, but still there.

It’s the same small percentage of men doing it!

Doesn't matter. The impact matters. Acknowledging the impact so we can frame better policy is something both men and women should be interested in.
Not saving men from feeling offended.

One man who flashes on a train can impact 50 other women in the carriage. One man out in public with a wife and kids covered in bruises impacts every other woman who sees them. (I've never forgotten a child I saw with a clearly abusive father at a supermarket till and that was 50 years ago.) One woman with a third black eye this year who goes into work mumbling about the tripping over the dog impacts every female in that office. And so on.

I don't think I know any woman who hasn't either been a victim of or seen first hand another woman who was a victim of male aggression.

I don't believe the percentage of perpetrators is anywhere near as tiny as is being suggested, either.

I hope that my son and yours are going to be violent, or rapists. HOWEVER they are growing up in a society that condones misogynist and violent behaviour from men. It’s up to our sons to be the generation that makes it unacceptable. The generation that challenges their peers.

You might want to edit that, CurlewKate!

How many people are directly impacted by a murder?

Family
Friends
NdN not feeling safe
Medical and other first responders
Investigation teams
The court and prison staff
The jury who need to see and understand what happened

I am sure there are more unlisted
But what would be the minimum headcount from 1 act of violence?

Don’t be ridiculous. I’m in my late 50s with a daughter in her 20s and multiple other female family members. None of us have been flashed at because it’s only a very small percentage of the population that commit these crimes.

So so bad and damaging trying to normalise this type of behaviour. It isn’t normal or common male behaviour.

No one is normalising it. Rather the opposite.

No not the opposite at all

Are you against:
Counting and recording men's crimes as men's crimes rather than calling men women
Safe spaces for women
Studying male crimes to see how and why they are committed
Framing policy to tackle this, as the Met is trying to tackle deep rooted misogny

Which of these are you against?

Literally every post I’ve put acknowledges and agrees men commit these crimes. Try reading properly 🙄

I’m against not keeping male crime in perspective.
HTH

Ok, so what would you like to be done to stop this ' tiny' amount of crime? I assume you are ok with all the steps I listed.

I don’t have to be bullied into saying or agreeing with anything thanks.

Fine.
You think male crimes should be kept in perspective because it's a ' tiny" number of men who commit crimes, but have nothing else to say about how to stop these men because you have never experienced it. Fair enough.

Whatever 🥱

Perspective is fine. It's true to say that most women will never be a direct victim of a serious violent or sexual assault.

But it's also true to say, that it doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing everything possible as a society to prevent them from happening.

You two have been debating this and going around in circles for hours now.

Crimes don't have sex?!! Crime is heavily sexed, the statistics in EVERY country around the world back this up. Do you really feel the need to dick pander to the extent of denying blatant truths and making yourself look stupid?

Seems to me the OP was just being factual . That seems to upset a lot of people who think we should shut up both about the sexual violence women face & the appalling gaslighting by much of the press this week in labelling a mentally ill young man ‘ a woman in a dress ‘ .

Then you may be shocked to realise the NHS have gone to court twice to argue it is a normal contractual obligation for its frontline female staff.

So small you believe … yet the number of women on here who haven’t been sexually abused or assaulted will also be vanishingly small so something needs to change .
The first step is acknowledging that ALL women live their lives adapted to the threat of male violence.

Do you really believe only 3% of men harass women and girls when they’re out and about ?
Try being a teenage girl just sitting on a bench by a minor road and see how many men lean out of car windows and shout sexual , intimidating things at you .

Far too many men behave poorly when they’re think they can get away with it .
Epstein files , the Pelicot and similar cases , the huge popularity of violent and degrading porn , ubiquitous spiking and my lived experience tell me that .