Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

[KillTheTurkey]

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

Lucky you. NAMALT so I hope you never meet one who is because they live amongst us despite what you want to believe.

Ok I see. although these children are still our sons. Collectively. Our male children.

The children of mums on Mumsnet are experiencing MH issues, are ND and have macho, sometimes abusive fathers. There may be drug abuse in the family.. So perhaps we could do more to prevent us raising all these murderers and rapists. This doesn't mean women are responsible but it means maybe there are things mothers can do. I'm NOT saying women are causing boys to turn into criminals. I'm saying perhaps mums can help reduce the statistics.

The best thing our sons can have in childhood are positive male role models in their lives. Men who can bond with them and guide them.

Let’s keep this into perspective shall we.

Only 3.1% of men commit violent crime and although men offend more than women it’s often a repeat-offending group of males, rather than a large portion of the general male population. While men are more likely to be perpetrators of violence, they are also more likely to be victims of violent crime committed by strangers.

In short, the overwhelming majority of men are NOT perpetrators of violent crime.

So let’s remember that before we write off boys and men in our lives.

I am not writing off anyone. I have a son.

But the men you cite as victims are also attacked by other men! Not women.
It is very important to recognise male violence as a huge problem.
If a women's site can't recognise this without NAMALTing, I have no hope for the world in general.

3%!!!! Yes it’s 3% that commit violent crime. Yes that is 3% too many but let’s keep it in perspective shall we.

And it’s not a women’s site but a parenting site which supports the parenting of girls and boys. I for one do not want my sons and daughters growing up in a world where they are taught the majority of men are violent- they’re not.

Oh. I have a DD too. And I teach her to be wary of men. She has already been groped, filmed and harassed enough to know that. SE London, takes the Tube daily, travels solo and went backpacking, often in less safe parts of the world..

Not to think that all men are violent, but enough to be cautious. But not to cower at home.

Do you actually tell your daughter “be wary of men” @RichardOnslowRoper ?

Oh gee, another "We hate men" Mumsnet thread. It's at least 11 hours since I clicked on one. Am kind of confused why MNHQ hasn't created a "We hate men" topic, would be so popular, could really concentrate the vitriol.

I admit that I have not read the whole thread but so far I am appalled at the sniping, lack of knowledge and misinterpretation. I really thought most women knew by now the start, progression and (hopefully) ending of the trans supremacy over all our lives in the UK for the last few years. The truth must be told and masking of crimes by men cannot be allowed. It is a lie and one that can have serious repercussions.

Yes. She has had reason to be. Plenty of drink spiking and date rape in London unis. All goes unreported because the girls are too ashamed.

We are also brown.
And she has had racist abuse too from football louts on trains, when travelling alone. I won't go into her experiences when travelling.

You could just click on the threads by women saying how much they love their husbands or the men who fix their cars? Plenty of those.

I know!!!

And actually this all men are violent crap does so much more normalising damage. It kind of says men are violent and likely to commit violent crime by default so it’s kind of natural. They’re not. Only 3 % are.

How do you know which are the 3%? Also most domestic violence and rape goes unreported, as you should know.

It’s a real shame my thread has been hijacked by the NAMALT crowd.

Not a SINGLE person on this thread had said all men are violent. Personally, I have said male violence is a serious problem This is a problem acknowledged by the Met Police itself.

The Met police acknowledging violence against women and girls. Do they also 'hate men'? Are they also writing boys off?
https://www.met.police.uk/police-forces/metropolitan-police/areas/about-us/about-the-met/vawg-action-plan-summary/overview-action-plan/

And, of course, we know how misogynist the Met is.

Absolutely nobody has said “All men are violent” s
Saying this shows a complete misunderstanding of a serious issue. No, all men are violent. But almost all violence is committed by men. There is a profound difference.

Are people just incapable of understanding that the words

The majority of violent and sexual crimes are committed by men

Is NOT the same thing as

the majority of men commit violent and sexual crimes?

Men don't need us leaping to their defence, they aren't being attacked by rabid killer facts trying to rip their throats out. It's ok to accept statistics.

No men were harmed in the stating of these facts.

You go a very long way to try and convince yourself that male violence isn't innate and tightly bound to testosterone levels.

They start from a base of innate higher levels of aggression and culture trains it out of them. Some are less easy to train than others because of psychopathic or sociopathic traits. Some, but only some, are as you say damaged in some way.

Violent men aren't created, it's the other way around. Non violent men are created by our culture.

Violent men can come from any background.

Our sons need to know that some of their peers are dangerous, to them and to others. They need to recognise bad behaviour and push back against it, and report it. At the moment, they may distance themselves from it (so like my DH, believe it’s rare as they automatically avoid it) or they may tolerate it as ‘banter’ that they are too evolved to engage in.

Women are at risk in their own homes because that’s where the privacy to commit crime is.

At the moment, we overlook the stats on male violence and the particular vulnerability of children and women. It needs to be understood and baked in to safeguarding. Women should have safe spaces. Particularly vulnerable women should be given more than usual protection- no unsupervised male carers.

I've said this before and it's been ignored by the NAMALT assembly.

It's another fact that although the number of men committing these crimes may be a tiny percentage of the male population, the percentage of women who have experienced or witnessed these crimes is huge.

It's the impact that's important, not the number of perpetrators.

How is it? The population is split 50:50 male female with only a tiny percentage of men committing these crimes. They’d have to be zooming around all over the place spending every minute of every day committing violence.

I used to work in Child Protection and I know how many women colluded with abusive men, and abused and neglected their kids.

Yes, only biological man can rape, of course, but women can be just as evil.