to think that Jim Ratcliffes statement is not an apology.

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If you looked up the meaning of "sorry not sorry" there would be a link to this!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cdjm3n8yrwnt

Or maybe he's just a bell end. Who hoovers up government subsidies whenever he can, avoids tax by moving to Monaco.

Ironically, 16 out of the 17 players Man Utd have signed since Ratcliffe took charge are foreign.

Im not sure what he said was a 'lie' rather a mistake with the dates surely?

The point he is making is the increase in a short space of time.

Im not a football fan but football tends to be generally/largely a working class thing and its the working classes who feel more impacted and are more vocal about immigration, so I find it ironic that he was apparently forced to apologise due to the fans.

Because the US has a different pricing structure to the UK. They are different countries. Think about it

I don’t need to think about it. I’ve read the actual facts. I suggest you do.

No, it’s not missing the point. The figures were lies. And exaggerated the issue massively. If you’re happy with that, fine. I’m not.
Plus I’m not arguing with his opinion. I’m saying he should apologise for lying and someone should make sure everyone who heard the lie hears the truth, in case it matters to them. It still does to some of us.

But some guy who arrived by boat 5 minutes ago and has contributed 0 in tax is as British as you or me. For goodness sake be serious. I consider myself left leaning and think immigration can be positive, but it's toe curling arguments like this that are taking us to a place where we may end up with some really extreme policy as over correction

I was listening to More or Less a couple of weeks ago and a politician got something out by a fair margin. The statistician managed to get the Hansard changed and that was it.

I thought it was the language that was the issue too and would be interested if the other version was ok but still using the same wording.

You don't get it do you. Nobody cares about statistics. They care about what they see and experience

He was literally spot off. His figures were lies. Are you happy to be lied to?

Well, no. Because it’s a very different proposition. We would need to know how much of that increase was immigration for a start. A rise of that much over a longer period doesn’t really suggest massive ‘colonisation’.

Literally no one has said that. You're making stuff up and getting angry about it.

It was a lie or else he’s too stupid to check his figures.
Plus the increase is over more than a quarter of a century. Not really a short time. Which is why he lied.

How does that prove the majority of people agree with the claim that "the UK is being colonised by immigrants"?

In any case , the majority of people didn't vote for UKIP, The Brexit Party or Reform. Or Johnson.

I get things wrong all the time, Im neither lying or stupid, sometimes the I get some details wrong when Im speaking about something

Regardless, I might not agree fully with what he said, but Im actually sick of people 'apologising' for things they think.

Hardly the same re the United players.
They aren't coming over on boats and expecting free bed and board etc

They are high warners paying a lot of tax.

Even if he had got his basic facts right, it was still a racist comment

He's a tax dodging billionaire. I personally am not interested in his thoughts on the country. He and people like James Dyson who campaigned for brexit then ditched the country are also part of the problem.

Some guy who arrived by boat and has paid 0 tax hasn’t taken a massive (£120 million I seem to remember bit I’d have to check) subsidy for his business from the tax payer, has he?
And nobody is saying he’s British anyway - not until he gets citizenship and then, yes, he’s a British as you or me. Or Ratcliffe.

City Eye: Facts on a plate: our population is at least 77 million | The Independent | The Independent

Does anyone actually believe that the population now is under 70 million? The arguable thing is what the true population is. But it's simply beyond belief that the "official number" of 69.3 million is correct. Some would argue a little bit more than that, some would argue substantially more.

So Ratcliffe was talking about asylum seekers only?

Why didn't he say that then

He’s tried to insinuate the language was the issue so he can paint people complaining as over sensitive. For most of us the lie is the issue.

I care about lies. Don't you?
Im not sure what it is you are seeing and experiencing that’s making you see immigration as the issue and not tax dodgers like Ratcliffe.

He's a tax evading immigrant to Monaco

Do you do that when being recorded for broadcast? I wouldn’t. I’d get it right or at least say ‘I think’.

If he was his figures are even further out…