to think that Jim Ratcliffes statement is not an apology.

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If you looked up the meaning of "sorry not sorry" there would be a link to this!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cdjm3n8yrwnt

The UK has been colonised by immigrants, really, hasn't it? I mean, the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020, now it's 70 million. That's 12 million people." Rattcliffe

The Office of National Statistics (ONS) estimates that the population of the UK was 67 million in mid-2020 and 70 million in mid-2024.

The UK population was estimated at 58.9 million in 2000.

I'm afraid this is not how opinions are formed or people are influenced. If you want to convince and persuade people over to your side of an argument, schoolmarming around the place and demanding apologies is not the way to do it

Why is it racist to talk about colonisation in terms of immigration but fine to talk about ‘de-colonising’ (ie removing white people from) the curriculum/arts/academia etc ? Tbh I don’t think it’s polite in either direction but it all started with identity politics.

Too many black people on tv?

Like Reform's Pochin claims

If you want to know why UK electricity costs are the highest in Europe and amongst the highest in the world then it's down to the following:
Policy and green subsidy costs - every solar farm and every wind farm gets a Government subsidy contract. The cost of this is then added to your electricity bill. This happened both under Conservatives and Labour but has really ramped up under Ed Milliband.
Doubling up on generation capacity- because it's not always windy or sunny and electricity cannot easily be stored, then you effectively need two generating systems- a renewable capacity and a back up gas / nuclear system with each being of sufficient size to supply all the UK's power demand.
Network charges - if you have effectively two lots of generating systems then you need double the network capacity.

So yes there is a lot the Government could do about lowering energy prices, starting with getting rid of renewable subsidies.

I said nothing about opini)s. You asked what the lie was. I told you. If wanting accurate figures in discussion and no lies is school ma’am ing, fine. But how are we to get anywhere if anyone can lie?

For about the millionth time, the problem with what he said wasn’t the language, it was the lies.

Nope. Prices are set according to the global gas price.
Given the difficult situation, if it were
possible le to reduce bills massively Don't you think they might?

Google 10 most dangerous areas in London (2026 Update)

google the 10 safest cities in the world

Every city has 10 areas that are the most dangerous. The point is, how dangerous are they? You said they were no go for tourists. Which are those?

I’m offended. I’ve married a British Sikh whose grandparents came in the 1950s.

They’ve been here for three quarters of a century. Are fully integrated. And contribute a lot to British life. Is Ratcliffe feeding the homeless/anyone that needs food like the Sikhs?

Really nasty comments.

I do think we need to document everyone who comes into the country for the sake of national security. I understand people are frustrated at what is going on with the small boats. But those comments were highly inappropriate and you cannot just say “sorry if you’re upset”.

Think about it. If power prices are just set by the global gas price then why doesn't the UK have similar electricity prices to the US which has an even higher gas fired generation than the UK?

Why so reticent to provide the information you refer to?

The figures were not accurate. But it's kind of like saying well akshulllyyy The Titanic didn't hit an iceberg it scraped it. It's totally missing the point, which is the sentiment of what was said. Most people agree with him like it or not and splitting hairs about exact statistics does not and will never cut through

He was spot on with what he said.
Somebody has got to say something, whether anything will change or not who knows.

Most people agree with him like it or not

Do they? I assume you can back this assertion up?

OK then instead of:

"The UK has been colonised by immigrants, really, hasn't it? I mean, the population of the UK was 58 million in 2020, now it's 70 million. That's 12 million people." Jim Radcliffe

You are fine with:

The UK has been colonised by immigrants, really, hasn't it? I mean, the population of the UK was 58 million in 1995, now it's 70 million. That's 12 million people."

So your main complaint then is not what he said but that he got his dates wrong.

Where to avoid today for tourist -Google it

No-one knows exactly how many people are in the UK but it's a lot more than 70 million. It was "at least 77 million" nearly 20 years ago. Supermarkets and sewers are where the real data lies, because illegal or legal, everyone needs to eat, and everyone needs to go to the toilet.

It was "at least 77 million" nearly 20 years ago
Source, please?

The consistent popular vote for parties since the early 2000s who promised less immigration. UKIP. Brexit. The Brexit Party. Boris. Reform UK??

The capacity of people on MN to have no theory of mind for the majority of people who aren't them and their friends is fascinating to me. Most people don't want immigration in the form we have had it and they don't like it. The trajectory of the last roughly 20 years evidences this absolutely

I don't like him one little bit because of his business tactics and his share in Manchester United.

But he was born here. In fact to a long standing Lancashire family and was born in Failsworth..Look it up on the map.

Maybe he his the sort of bloke who just says what he really thinks and couldn't care about judgement and politics correctness.

Why must you turn this forum into a house of lies?

I did not say he was not born here, l said he was not a UK resident. Nor paying UK taxes.