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DuncinToffee · 12/02/2026 19:25

Just leave this here

to think that Jim Ratcliffes statement is not an apology.
cardibach · 12/02/2026 19:27

Bruisername · 12/02/2026 19:23

Why address at all then? Why not just say he’s a private citizen with a terrible grasp of numbers and you’re not going to comment. But shouting about an apology for the language he used will have people who agree with him feel like they’re not listened to.

addressing the untruths opens a conversation with those people and that’s how you start to change opinions

we need proper debate on this topic - not just shutting people down

Nobody is shutting him down. Just asking him to be explicit that his figures are wrong. Otherwise people who agree with him won’t realise he’s a liar and recalibrate.

PandoraSocks · 12/02/2026 19:28

Allseeingallknowing · 12/02/2026 19:21

Why should he? He said what he believes to be right.

I think you need to sit down and really think through what you have just said.

cardibach · 12/02/2026 19:28

Allseeingallknowing · 12/02/2026 19:23

That wasn’t what he was talking about!

He doesn’t live here or pay tax here. Why does he have a right to an opinion on what happens here?
He’s an immigrant in a region with over 70% immigration. And therefore a hypocrite.

MissAmbrosia · 12/02/2026 19:28

He's just another racist, and total hypocrite.

Allseeingallknowing · 12/02/2026 19:29

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/02/2026 19:24

No but its a bit fucking rich to moan about immigrants changing the UK when he lives in a tax haven with a load of other immigrants!

But they are adding to the wealth of their communities!

PyongyangKipperbang · 12/02/2026 19:30

Allseeingallknowing · 12/02/2026 19:29

But they are adding to the wealth of their communities!

I really hope that was supposed to be irony......

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SweetBaklava · 12/02/2026 19:31

Tortephant · 12/02/2026 19:06

he has apologised to those that were offended by his choice of language. He hasn’t apologised for the principle of what he was saying.

Exactly this!!!!

MsGreying · 12/02/2026 19:33

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2026 19:16

He is a racist

And lied about the numbers

2m rather than 12m since 2000. We were on worldwide lockdown for some of the years.

Allseeingallknowing · 12/02/2026 19:34

PandoraSocks · 12/02/2026 19:28

I think you need to sit down and really think through what you have just said.

Didn’t say I agreed with him. He was stating his views, which he’s entitled to good or bad.,

ExtraOnions · 12/02/2026 19:35

Maybe he should fill his Man United squad with British Born player only ?

Maybe he should not be asking taxpayers to contribute money to the new stadium he wants to build, if he’s concerned about how much he a payers are forking out.

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2026 19:37

Allseeingallknowing · 12/02/2026 19:34

Didn’t say I agreed with him. He was stating his views, which he’s entitled to good or bad.,

Lying about numbers is bad don't you think? Do you think he should be allowed to spread misinformation?

GenechandlerHeyMrBigshotNsoul · 12/02/2026 19:38

He's a nasty bastard and always has been,redundancies are part of his MO at companies he owns plus he was talking shit.
Britain hasn't been taken over.
That rhetoric appeals to a certain grade of thicko.

Pedallleur · 12/02/2026 19:40

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 12/02/2026 19:16

He's a disgrace. What does he think he is when he's at his residences in Switzerland and Monaco? He's an immigrant!

And he got his facts wrong and hasn't mentioned that in his 'apology'. He's another bloody Farage wannabe.

In those places he is a rich resident. They don't see him as an immigrant. Certainly in Monaco you can't have a passport (and you can only have 1, no dual nationality) but you can live there if you have the means to do so

EveryDayisFriday · 12/02/2026 19:40

Wolves don't apologise to sheep. Rich dudes are above the law and don't give a shiny shit about other people as we've seen for centuries.

Empathy is a particularly rare commodity in 2026.

Tulipvase · 12/02/2026 19:42

Is anyone surprised? It’s football.

Lemonadefizzcelebration · 12/02/2026 19:44

I thought his original statement referred to migrants who claim benefits and do not add anything to UK and in some cases are causing societal unrest. Not skilled net contributors who want to integrate and add to the UK?

Wibble128 · 12/02/2026 19:44

He had nothing to apologise for. A prophet is never welcome in his own time. The leftwaffe will flap and should just be ignored.

BlueJuniper94 · 12/02/2026 19:45

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2026 19:37

Lying about numbers is bad don't you think? Do you think he should be allowed to spread misinformation?

Numbers and data can be interpreted in all sorts of ways. People are allowed to make claims and these can then be debated. People don't mind misinformation when it's coming from their side and benefits their tribe. I never ever hear anyone calling on out their own side and demanding accuracy. And it ain't cause it doesn't happen!

Pedallleur · 12/02/2026 19:46

In another time Scruffy Jim would have been flying out to Epstein island on the Ineos jet and/or chatting to Andrew Windsor about trade deals (and Epstein). Why? He is seen as a mover/shaker, the sort Jeffrey would have loved entertaining. Suited Jim to be teasing the Govt about his car building which he shipped off to Europe anyway.

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2026 19:47

BlueJuniper94 · 12/02/2026 19:45

Numbers and data can be interpreted in all sorts of ways. People are allowed to make claims and these can then be debated. People don't mind misinformation when it's coming from their side and benefits their tribe. I never ever hear anyone calling on out their own side and demanding accuracy. And it ain't cause it doesn't happen!

So are you saying that misinformation should not be corrected or called out?

Ratcliffe's numbers were lies.

BlueJuniper94 · 12/02/2026 19:48

DuncinToffee · 12/02/2026 19:47

So are you saying that misinformation should not be corrected or called out?

Ratcliffe's numbers were lies.

I am saying what I said.

BlueJuniper94 · 12/02/2026 19:49

The numbers might be wrong. And he might not be a good guy. But many people agree with the overall sentiment that there has been too much migration and it is unsustainable

cardibach · 12/02/2026 19:49

Pedallleur · 12/02/2026 19:40

In those places he is a rich resident. They don't see him as an immigrant. Certainly in Monaco you can't have a passport (and you can only have 1, no dual nationality) but you can live there if you have the means to do so

Don’t see him as an immigrant? It’s not a matter of opinion. He’s an immigrant.

cardibach · 12/02/2026 19:50

Lemonadefizzcelebration · 12/02/2026 19:44

I thought his original statement referred to migrants who claim benefits and do not add anything to UK and in some cases are causing societal unrest. Not skilled net contributors who want to integrate and add to the UK?

Why did you think that? His statement - based on lies about the numbers - was just about immigration.