AGAIN - Nursery worker found guilty [CONTENT WARNING: Details of CSA]

[AliceAbsolum]

https://www.whitchurchherald.co.uk/news/national/25838680.nursery-worker-guilty-multiple-sexual-offences-children-care/

Seriously when are they going to ban men from nurseries? I don't care if some other innocent men have to find other jobs.

It makes me feel so sick, I can't even comprehend it.

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Stupid comment.
That's like saying nobody should have a dog as a pet because SOME harm humans.
Yet nobody would want a lion, would they, because statistically they're much more likely to cause harm.

There is no risk that a child will be raped if a nursery is staffed entirely by women.

There are bad men and bad women, but why wouldn’t you eliminate this particular risk?

I’ve posted on many threads about this. Care homes are full
on young, overseas and not properly vetted/unskilled males - yet we are supposed to be grateful they are propping up the care system. The free access these men have to vulnerable women with dementia and other cognitive/physical impairments is an outrage.

And they seem not even want to report on the white grooming gangs which make up the largest proportion of all grooming gangs to date.

You only "suspected"?

Child abuse in orphanages etc is well known

Yep every thread I’ve ever seen about this is overwhelmingly in support of male nursery staff. I can’t understand it.

Not a chance I’d let my kids attend a nursery with male staff.

If say 99% of nursery staff are female, yet 99% of abuse is carried by males, why so quick to defend the men?

Almost always their own children. Not killing nursery children.

Sounds like other members of staff were uncomfortable about him...

"He was noted by staff to sit children on his lap for lengthy periods of time, wear a pair of trousers with holes in the crotch area, and seemed “territorial” over certain toddlers and their parents, the court heard."

But men are less of a caregiver than women. The care of children/elderly/sick is overwhelmingly provided by women. Rightly or wrongly, it’s a fact.

But when you look at the percentages of female nursery workers who harm kids against the percentage of male nursery workers who harm kids it's not at all in the same league.

Is it a denial thing? Why do people defend men, when there are children being fucking raped

I started work in the late 80s. At that time certain jobs were open to only male or female applicants - for dignity and to mitigate risk. It was legal for these sex exemptions to apply.
Now that seems to have been kicked to the kerb and there are increasingly frequent reports of children abused by male nursery staff, women assaulted by male carers and having their requests for female only carers ignored.

What's driving it? The increasing need for staff, any staff, in these roles so employers overlook safety? The desire to be 'inclusive' and prioritise men's feelings over common sense?

We've enough empirical evidence to know that predators exploit loopholes and lax safeguarding. Why are employers ignoring that?

Take men out and it takes away one threat. That's a win. You employ all the men you want to look after your babies.

He should've been gone straight away. How can we prioritise mens feelings over babies safety!?

My son actually did not like women that much. He absolutely gravitated towards men and he was much more comfortable with them. For that reason I wouldnt have an issue with male workers. I would however be getting serious creep vibes if I saw this guy in a nursery!

I would also never choose a nursery with separate rooms/ areas where abuse could happen. Our nursery is one room. Sleeping happens in that room, nappies are changed in that room. And the children’s toilets are in the middle between the two open rooms with no doors and small child height half doors. I literally do not see how abuse could occur in this environment without being seen. That makes me feel very comfortable.

This is absolutely Vile!
YANBU at all.
The nursery that my children went to had one male member of staff and he wasn’t allowed to be alone with the children at all and if one of the kids in his group needed the toilet, a female member of staff had to take them.
All of these precautions and I still wouldn’t let my children be in his group. I spoke to the nursery manager to make sure my children were only ever put with the females.
I don’t care if I sound sexist. My children are my top priority and their safety comes before someone’s hurt feelings.

Just suffocating them with pillows and beating them and breaking their tiny bodies...

I don’t know. I wonder if they’re trying so hard to be so “right on”, or worried about backlash if they admitted they had a problem with it.

Always backed up by how amazing so and so was and how much their child loved them, and how nice to have a male influence. You can bet some of the poor parents of these poor children would have thought the same at one point.

And take all women out and take away one threat...

No one is buying what you're selling, drop it

I'm not defending ANYONE who harms children

I'm saying we have to acknowledge that sometimes that includes women

Unfortunately I think there’s bugger all we can do about this because it would be labelled as discrimination, and being ‘inclusive and diverse’ would be prioritised over protecting children.

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Why is that the point you're trying to make in all this?

Dozens? There have been three reported in the last 12 months. I dont disagree with the sentiment and obviously one is too many but exaggerating the numbers like that isn't helpful.