AGAIN - Nursery worker found guilty [CONTENT WARNING: Details of CSA]

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https://www.whitchurchherald.co.uk/news/national/25838680.nursery-worker-guilty-multiple-sexual-offences-children-care/

Seriously when are they going to ban men from nurseries? I don't care if some other innocent men have to find other jobs.

It makes me feel so sick, I can't even comprehend it.

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Yes, we absolutely should.

This.

What fools are trying to say that women are more dangerous than men to children.

Women do not murder children under 1 for the fun of it, they are almost always undergoing some horrific post partum situation.

You know, that in the same way when a woman is snatched by a stranger off the street, it is always a man who has done it.

In a nursery, the risk of sexual harm is always higher with a man.

That's the end of it and every dog in the street knows it.

This is horrific.

The council run nursery my children attended had such good safeguarding practices in place this would have been impossible there. Yes there were some male staff, although mostly female. In private nurseries which are more about profit it's no surprise corners are cut, sadly.

But why? Always there's some apologist who comes on the threads about men and do a whataboutary. Always.

Little bairns have been raped and you're more bothered about focusing on women crimes. This isn't about a women, it's about a man who violated babies.

Yet here you are defending him. Why?

The original post is bringing up a news article and using that to suggest men can't be trusted around children

That's not a balanced view point

How am I in anyway DEFENDING him?

What the fuck?

If people can get away with that sort of thing today, with cctv and a sex offenders register and everyone hyper vigilant, etc, can you imagine the horrors that went on in orphanages and factories and schools 100 years ago. I have always suspected that child abuse was absolutely rife. I should think it was a daily occurrence. Everyone raised in a barnados home in the 1970s seems to have been sexually assaulted or abused. It just engages me beyond words.

There have been a few high profile cases of women causing harm to nursery children recently - the woman (Polish?) who punched and kicked babies, and the worker who strapped that poor baby face down to a pillow where she suffocated.

I can however only think of one case of sexual violence in a nursery perpetrated by a woman (doing it for a man) in the last 20 years.

I'm not I'm saying that, I'm saying this is horrific and if we ban men then less toddlers will be raped and abused.

By diverting the attention away from him onto a woman. Why?

They’re not going to rape the children, so that’s one less risk that exists with women rather than men.

There are some hugely famous cases of women hurting and killing babies in nurseries

In no way am I defending (!) this vile creature by responding to OP's post of - "ban male workers"

The post isn't "let's discuss what an abusive PoS this man is" it's specifically about banning men from nurseries

If you only care about SA then, yes, women are less of a threat

But if you actually want to take a nuanced view of Safeguarding then you have to acknowledge that women can and do cause other harm

Ok, I should have said "What a piece of shit, what the fuck can we do about this as a society"

Because the topic isn't about HIM but men in nurseries?

I'm not defending him at all and suggesting I am is offensive

Yes, as do men.

We can’t eliminate all harm. We can eliminate this particular harm.

Which is a different topic all together and would raise more than "ye ban men from nurseries"

But not all men are a risk to children. And if you are banning men because "look there was a bad man in the news" then "look there was a bad woman in the news" is equally applicable

Ask yourself - why would any man want to work with vulnerable babies and young children?

Because they have a nurturing streak?
Because they care?
Because we shouldn't be acting like men are less of a caregiver than women?

This really needed a trigger warning or a different title OP.

I think that’s a great idea but considering the BBC don’t even mention the horrific details that are coming out about the Pakistani/Mulsim raping gangs I don’t know how you could muster up enough traction to get it noticed.
What a fuckimg awful state of affairs.

If my daughter was nursery age I would not send her to one with men working there. People need to vote with their £££.

Totally agree. I’ve seen some very lax attitudes in nurseries. It’s one of the main reasons I could never bring myself to send my children in until the year before reception.

In the school nursery my children attend, it’s simply not possible for a member of staff to be in the toilet area, or any other area of the nursery in actual fact, and not be in full view of all other staff due to the way the building was designed. Probably helps that it’s a small nursery with very good staff:child ratios also. It’s awful that so many nurseries are forced to stretch themselves to the limit.

why would any WOMAN want to work with vulnerable babies and young children?

https://www.communitycare.co.uk/content/news/plymouth-nursery-worker-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-abuse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-47027082

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj4l7r44508o

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/5209552/perthshire-crime-campaigner-guilty-child-abuse/ And this one had the audacity to put herself forward as a DV and womens’ rights campaigner.

Until we accept that women are capable of this, we fail to safeguard our children in any setting.