Best Amazon Prime Day deals: Mumsnet favourites

Best Amazon Prime Day deals:
Mumsnet favourites

Shop now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Taylor Swift

180 replies

Nezukokamado · 08/02/2026 21:46

Was anyone a fan but now is a bit....done?

I was, of her music, didn't really follow her much (her personal life)

But after her shitty album, the texts made public in the BL/JB controversy and now the Opalite video yet AGAIN making digs at her fiances ex, who is now getting bullied online...I just think I see her for who she is and I can't separate the music from the artist

I think I may be a retired 'swiftie'

She's nearing 40 for god's sake....it's all very mean girl

OP posts:
Zov · 09/02/2026 19:10

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:03

Olivia Rodrigo
Fleetwood Mac
Beyonce
Lily Allen
Justin Timberlake
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Dolly Parton
....
....
I could probably go on forever ...... All of these bands and artists have written songs about ex's.

Adele too. Amy Winehouse. And probably 100s more!

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:11

Nezukokamado · 09/02/2026 18:24

wtf

'wtf' isn't an answer. WHY do you want to say anything against Taylor Swift/anything negative about her?

Why does she bother you so much?

.

Jbum · 09/02/2026 19:12

I don't say you cant write a song about your ex, fine after a break up whatever but if are in a happy long term relationship about to get married why continue to do it. Your happy. If my partner kept banging on about his exs and we are together planning a wedding id be thinking wtf

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:13

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 09/02/2026 18:47

She wants everyone to slag her off. There’s a difference.

100% this. ^ Most people aren't doing it though. Wink

Rituelec · 09/02/2026 19:14

CandiedPrincess · 09/02/2026 18:35

I bloody love the new album. It took about a weekend to grow on me but it's never been off since. Totally different vibe to TTPD which I also loved but then most of her albums are different to the next. Can't please all of the people all of the time.

I also love the new one

SIimPickins · 09/02/2026 19:16

EverythingIsComputer · 09/02/2026 10:19

I’d love her to just let someone else have a turn, stop releasing multiple versions of albums that clog up the charts and rinse your fans.

Everything feels so calculated with her. She’s an ok singer, musician, good song writer, there are many much stronger but she had the money behind her to make her as successful as she has become.

Charli XCX released more than 40 different variants of her Brat album, nobody told her to stop clogging up the charts and rinsing her fans

SevenYellowHammers · 09/02/2026 19:17

Never saw appeal. Dull as dishwater. She’s like an elaborately wrapped gift that turns out to be a handkerchief or a vest.

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:20

Jbum · 09/02/2026 19:12

I don't say you cant write a song about your ex, fine after a break up whatever but if are in a happy long term relationship about to get married why continue to do it. Your happy. If my partner kept banging on about his exs and we are together planning a wedding id be thinking wtf

Her new album (the only one written since her relationship with Travis) isn't really about her ex's or his ex's. Some of the songs are about finding joy with a new partner after years of relationships with people who didn't get you. I think that is something a lot of people can relate to. She's not banging on about her ex's...she's saying "at last I've got a good un!"

CaragianettE · 09/02/2026 19:21

I liked the Opalite video but then I thought the 'garbage is still garbage' caption right at the end sounded weirdly aggressive, but I don't know what it refers to and probably nobody does for sure. It sounds like it could be shading exes, both her and Kelce's, in an unneccesary way. No doubt certain Swifties will run with that, and it's a real shame if they're hassling Kelce's ex. But I noticed Taylor makes a point in the captions at the end of 'Opalite' of saying another character in the video ends up 'happily single', i.e. ending up in a couple isn't the only happy ending. So I wondered if 'garbage is still garbage' was meant to ward off people reading the video as saying that you have to be in a couple to be happy? And instead is saying, being single is always better than being in a bad (and especially an abusive) relationship?

NonArtArseHouse · 09/02/2026 19:22

I’m too old and unbothered to be a ‘Swiftie’, but I like a lot of her music (and it’s rare that I like pop music).

I liked Showgirl. I love the title track, Ophelia, Father Figure & Ruin the Friendship.

I don’t expect her to ‘speak out’ about every issue in her crazy country.

I suppose if you’ve grown up with her as some sort of role model, you might have an attachment to her that I don’t and feel ‘let down’ by her somehow.

My generation had to contend with Michael Jackson, so meh …Taylor’s alright!

Raquelos · 09/02/2026 19:26

Nezukokamado · 08/02/2026 21:46

Was anyone a fan but now is a bit....done?

I was, of her music, didn't really follow her much (her personal life)

But after her shitty album, the texts made public in the BL/JB controversy and now the Opalite video yet AGAIN making digs at her fiances ex, who is now getting bullied online...I just think I see her for who she is and I can't separate the music from the artist

I think I may be a retired 'swiftie'

She's nearing 40 for god's sake....it's all very mean girl

Yeah you're being unreasonable.

You don't have to like her latest music, although you are obviously in the minority given the record-breaking streams it has. She changes style a lot from album to album, so I think it's inevitable that sometimes a new album won't hit everyone's sweet spot. Retiring from her latest music seems sensible if that's how you feel.

The rest of what you say is wildly unreasonable, though. I can't think of another artist held to such standards tbh or who has such obvious rubbish claimed about her. Let's have a quick look at the main ones

She hasn't spoken out on x,y,z issue (insert preferred issue of the moment)
Given the death threats against her and her fans recently, and the fact that little girls were targeted and murdered simply for being at a Taylor Swift dance class. I suspect we will not see her speak out publicly again tbh. I think she has realised that she puts a target on her own and her fans' backs by doing so.

She's a MAGA
She isn't; she very publicly encouraged people to vote for Kamala and has consistently supported progressive causes. She's marrying a man who is famously liberal in his own industry and whose family are loudly Democratic.

She's a billionaire (therefore evil)
She has created music so beloved that its value makes her a billionaire because she now owns the rights to it. I would have to ask who the objectors think should own the music that she created. Who is more deserving of being the beneficiary of its value than her? She also seems to be pretty decent in how she chooses to spend that money; she is notorious for making sure her employees all have insurance, rare in the industry, and in paying huge bonuses across the board. If only all billionaires followed those values (looks pointedly at Bezos and Musk and the way they treat employees).

She was mean about Justin Baldoni
She did call him a little bitch with a tiny violin, in the privacy of texts exchanged with her close friend, who had accused him of sexual harassment. In a similar circumstance, I can only hope my texts never come to light because I was WAY meaner than she was 😂

She was mean about her fiancé's ex, Kayla Nicole
Not really true, she's never mentioned KN's name in public or indicated any interest in her (neither has he for years). One lyric from a recent song has been assumed to be about KN, who immediately responded by dancing on Halloween in a revealing outfit to a song called "he ain't man enough". Fair enough, she looked great, but KN seems to have built a social influencing career on the back of that past relationship and references it at every opportunity. File under who really cares.

She's nearly 40 and still writes about high school.
She's 36, and so what? Women are allowed to age.
She doesn't write about high school - she wrote a song about a schoolfriend who killed himself and reminisces about their friendship and regret. Most of her songs are about her feelings, or about the industry and how shitty the double standards in it are for women. (She's not wrong, is she)

I struggle to think of any male artist who is criticised in the way she is, and honestly, I am done with it. She could put out a collection of nursery rhymes accompanied by bagpipes and digeridoos and she still wouldn't deserve the shit she gets tbh. If people don't like her music, they should avoid listening to it. Everything else is just parasocial bullshit.

usedtobeaylis · 09/02/2026 19:31

I think many of her fans are fucking insane in all honesty. She's ultimately just a woman living her life, putting on a show, and making her money. Her fans though are fucking insane. Ever since I read a mega thread online of toys being thrown out of the pram because they were convinced she is gay and was refusing to come out I have thought this. If someone's ex is being harassed, it's because of the fucking insanity of individuals that need to get a life.

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:38

usedtobeaylis · 09/02/2026 19:31

I think many of her fans are fucking insane in all honesty. She's ultimately just a woman living her life, putting on a show, and making her money. Her fans though are fucking insane. Ever since I read a mega thread online of toys being thrown out of the pram because they were convinced she is gay and was refusing to come out I have thought this. If someone's ex is being harassed, it's because of the fucking insanity of individuals that need to get a life.

Edited

People on the internet are fucking insane. Taylor Swifts fans no more or less than anyone else's you just notice it because there are more of them.

usedtobeaylis · 09/02/2026 19:39

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:38

People on the internet are fucking insane. Taylor Swifts fans no more or less than anyone else's you just notice it because there are more of them.

I wasn't comparing them to anything or anyone else though. They're insane in their own right

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:48

Ok.....and I am comparing them to the human population as a whole.....of which a massive number seems to be completely insane (particularly when online). Taylor Swift aren't insane BECAUSE they're Taylor Swift fans..... They're just insane people who happen to like Taylor Swift 🤣🤷‍♀️

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:49

The Gaylor theories are particularly unhinged....I'll give you that.

usedtobeaylis · 09/02/2026 19:51

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:48

Ok.....and I am comparing them to the human population as a whole.....of which a massive number seems to be completely insane (particularly when online). Taylor Swift aren't insane BECAUSE they're Taylor Swift fans..... They're just insane people who happen to like Taylor Swift 🤣🤷‍♀️

They're often insane on behalf of Taylor Swift. They're mental. It's absolutely no reflection on the insanity of anyone else, I promise.

Candlestickinthediningroom · 09/02/2026 19:54

usedtobeaylis · 09/02/2026 19:51

They're often insane on behalf of Taylor Swift. They're mental. It's absolutely no reflection on the insanity of anyone else, I promise.

🤣 ok well seeing as you promised. Yeah they can be ..erm ..strident in their defense of her. I've never personally seen anything that was particularly unhinged but then I'm not on the platforms where that might happen.

Dolphinnoises · 09/02/2026 19:56

DD is a huge Swiftie and so I have listened to a lot of her music over the past two years. TTPD is definitely her best album but I really like her latest, so there. It’s happy. She’s allowed to be happy. Except the stupid wood song.

Video wise, the fate of Ophelia is just a spectacular video and Opalite as a song is an absolute banger and the video is gloriously bonkers.

People just don’t like it when other people work ten times harder than they are prepared to do. They’d rather it was luck.

GellerYeller · 09/02/2026 20:11

I don’t know about exes and bullying but I do think she’s been working at her career from childhood, being lucky that her parents were able to relocate to Nashville to support her.
I think she’s done great things for women in her industry, speaking out on double standards, taking control of her recordings after they were bought from under her, for example, and being a decent employer.
I thought the Eras tour was a great example of women celebrating each other- and an epic money making machine. Because she IS a brand, fronting a billion dollar business, but seems to take more criticism than her peers. Especially the male equivalents.

Ninerainbows · 10/02/2026 11:29

I would never want her life. I don't think she ever stops working really - even when she is "off" she is writing, recording, at the gym or basically trapped in her house. She can't just go on holiday without security and her parents are ALWAYS around.

Zov · 10/02/2026 11:46

Ninerainbows · 10/02/2026 11:29

I would never want her life. I don't think she ever stops working really - even when she is "off" she is writing, recording, at the gym or basically trapped in her house. She can't just go on holiday without security and her parents are ALWAYS around.

I would love her life. She is in complete control of everything, and does exactly what she wants. No-one tells her what to do, and she writes, performs, and works whenever she wants to. She's not trapped at all, and can give it all up tomorrow, and retire at 36 with her 1.6 BILLION dollars.

She is beautiful and talented and gifted, she is rich and successful, she has loving parents who are there whenever she needs them, and a brother who adores her, and a man who worships her, and she has had a lovely life so far.

I can't imagine why someone would not want this life!

Nezukokamado · 10/02/2026 12:20

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:11

'wtf' isn't an answer. WHY do you want to say anything against Taylor Swift/anything negative about her?

Why does she bother you so much?

.

Edited

Are you insane? WHY do you want to say anything negative about anything? WHY? WHY? WHY?

fucking hell

OP posts:
Nezukokamado · 10/02/2026 12:23

Zov · 09/02/2026 19:11

'wtf' isn't an answer. WHY do you want to say anything against Taylor Swift/anything negative about her?

Why does she bother you so much?

.

Edited

@zoz do you realise how you sound? Why does she bother me so much? Who said she bothers me SO MUCH? I'm going to find a thread you started, just having a random chat/opinion and then badger you with WHY it bothers you SO MUCH (whatever that topic is) WHY you are SO ANGRY about it and WHY you want to say ANYTHING negative about it.

Do you realise how you sound? Honestly? Stop it. Why can't we just have a conversation? It's so frustrating.

..........queue you now asking me why I'm so livid about TS, just so, so livid

PS while you are here batting for her, i WAS a big fan until recently, DD still is. We have her music on in our house through DD. The ERAs tour was fantastic. Am I still a bit disappointed in some things of late? YES! Hence I wanted to discuss it.

OP posts:
Nezukokamado · 10/02/2026 12:24

Zov · 10/02/2026 11:46

I would love her life. She is in complete control of everything, and does exactly what she wants. No-one tells her what to do, and she writes, performs, and works whenever she wants to. She's not trapped at all, and can give it all up tomorrow, and retire at 36 with her 1.6 BILLION dollars.

She is beautiful and talented and gifted, she is rich and successful, she has loving parents who are there whenever she needs them, and a brother who adores her, and a man who worships her, and she has had a lovely life so far.

I can't imagine why someone would not want this life!

She will never have complete privacy and I doubt many people would want that

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread