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What should I say to my 19 year old daughter who has already decided that she hates men?

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JMSA · 03/02/2026 22:36

I don’t know, I guess it just saddens me that she holds this negative view of the world already. I received this text from her tonight:

I feel so enraged by the Epstein files. It is like documented proof men are evil. This is what men will do when they have power and think they will get away with it because that’s their nature. The poor woman and kids, it’s sick.

I’m fed up of saying ‘it’s not all men’.
She really hasn’t known many nice teenage boys. I daresay social media has heavily coloured her view too. I don’t want to dismiss her feelings but don’t want to encourage the notion that all men are evil!

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frockandcrocs · 15/02/2026 20:32

Read the room, Geoff.

JuliettaCaeser · 15/02/2026 21:27

The stats are so clear on the different offending rate even attempting to draw any equivalence immediately marks you out as either a fool or a misogynist. The Moors murders were 60 years ago. How many similar crimes have been carried out by men since? Sarah Payne / Sarah Everard / Chillenden / Levi bell field spring to mind. And the rest.

Kouklamo · 16/02/2026 06:48

Maybe show her examples of some good men who have made the world a better place.

The secret millionaire show is an example of rich people not all being massive assholes.

bigboykitty · 16/02/2026 08:08

Geoff1960 · 15/02/2026 18:59

In my world the percentages are immaterial. Regardless of what sex you are if you commit a crime and get caught then suffer the consequences. Women do commit rape murder etc. I have no idea why there's a huge difference apart from when the human race began that's how it was. Men were the hunters and these idiots still live in this in dinosaur world . I also like to add that it is the over privileged that do most of these crimes because they think the law won't otouch them , unfortunately that's true. I live in the UK and there's a huge row with Andrew. Has he stood trial no he paid her off . Its not just men girls . I note that no one has commented on the abuse I suffered apart from one who at best was taking the p...
Real men don't hit or abuse anyone . Many of my ex wife's lovers had some issues with me but I never laid a finger on her. Weak maybe but that's the old school world I live in.

I bet they are. Women do not commit rape. Go away. Stop derailing the thread.

5128gap · 16/02/2026 08:27

@Geoff1960
This is a thread about a 19 year old woman who has already seen enough examples of male bad behaviour to conclude she hates men. I think we can all agree that's pretty troubling.
Most people on here see the resolution to this as to look at ways to improve male behaviour so women have no reason to think this way.
You, and others seem to see the resolution to be persuading her that there isn't a problem at all. Because there are some nice men and some nasty women.
Of course there are nice men and nasty women. But this thread isn't about them. It's about the bad men who are hurting women, children and each other in big and small ways. This isn't something feminists are just claiming happens because they want to be mean to men. The problem of MVAWG is recognised by government as a national problem. As is the problem of men hurting each other in alarming numbers.
Rather than try to distract us from talking about this problem, do you, as a man, have any thoughts on the problem itself? How it could be addressed?

Nellodee · 16/02/2026 12:33

My ex was sexually abused by his mother, causing psychological issues throughout his life. It’s extremely rare for it to be mothers rather than fathers committing sexual abuse. Pointing out the relative rarity does not mean anyone believes women never commit violent or sexual crimes or males are never victims. If someone told me they had been sexually abused as a child, I would still presume it was at the hands of a male and statistically I’d be correct close to 100% of the time.

IcantFeelMyFaceNow · 17/02/2026 10:10

Geoff1960 · 15/02/2026 19:25

Look girls I am not defending men I am simply saying that men, including myself suffer at the hands of women. Mine was not only psychological but physical as well. I do not believe in hitting a woman regardless of circumstances . The percentages are immaterial. In my world if a man is abusing a woman then he's a weak moron. It seems to me that if a man's getting abused he should man up . Why? The police laugh in your face because you should just give her slap. ( QUOTE). Crime is crime but women seem to think there the only victims. At the time of my abuse I thought nothing of it until my mental health started to suffer I struggled to do my job. One commented on here that men should accept abuse because its a laugh ti them. Double standards .

This post can't be genuine can it?

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