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Friend coming down hard on me for lack of communication

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Uhohhouse · 22/01/2026 12:01

I have a friend with whom about 90% of our relationship is on WhatsApp as we live in opposite ends kf the country. From time to time I will drop off communication wise and only be able to manage a quick emoji response or one liner, and i think this is because I have a partner and also live with extended family: it means that I am constantly engaging with people non stop whereas she lives alone.
Last week I got a rap on the knuckles for "dropping off the radar" and I apologised for making her feel neglected. The truth was I was having a hit of an extended christmas and there was loads of family visits happening and then me and DP went on a week-long roadtrip.

I ca t help but feel resentful though. On the one hand I DONT want her to feel neglected but on the other hand I dont have this issue with any other friends.

Has anyone had something similar?

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Jeska7 · 24/01/2026 20:40

IPM · 22/01/2026 12:19

I also wonder why all these very busy people haven't discovered voice notes?

It takes longer to go for a wee than to send one of those.

A lot of people don’t like voice notes!

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/01/2026 20:49

Workingmammabear · 24/01/2026 19:46

I was giving the perspective of the over-enthusiastic texter, not playing word games.

But why do you find it bizarre that people aren't all the same as you?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/01/2026 20:51

salsapasta · 24/01/2026 20:02

Type a few words and send a photo or video

A photo or video of what? Most of my friends don't want a photo of my dog sleeping and I'm quite selective about who gets photos of DC because once they're gone there's no controlling what happens with them. Most people aren't taking many photos throughout the day otherwise.

Spiralife · 24/01/2026 20:59

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CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:00

VoltaireMittyDream · 24/01/2026 15:55

A person who can’t manage to infer that their friend who doesn’t reply swiftly to chatty, inconsequential messages is likely busy and/or not up for that level of contact, is going to need a hell of a lot explained to them.

And not everyone wants to take on that level of explaining.

Not least because someone who’s reached adulthood with a limited ability to read social cues or imagine what other people’s perspectives or experiences might possibly be - or indeed to understand that other people might have different experiences or expectations to their own - is likely to have some innate difficulties with social learning, IME.

Simply explaining your own perspective doesn’t work with such people, who will be puzzled by the idea of different perspectives altogether, or will simply conclude your perspective is wrong and set about correcting it.

If I took time to patiently explain everything about how social relationships work to everyone I encounter who finds them hard to understand, I wouldn’t have time for anything else.

But it's not about just not understanding friendship, or a particular person's style of friendship. In the OPs instance, and what many have referred to in the thread, is when people have a good friendship that is working however it works, then one person decides to change it.

It's up to them, but also understandable the other person will be confused and hurt by this. (Because it is painful to lose people you love and the good times you share). You think you have someone in your life where you mutually appreciate and understand each other and then suddenly it's all different.

MusicalFruit2015 · 24/01/2026 21:02

BlueSlate · 22/01/2026 12:18

There is a difference between the OP posting on here asking for a space to share and reflect on something that is bothering her and finding the time to update someone else on the mundane day to day happenings of her life.

Yes, she has made the time to start a thread and she makes the time to communicate with her friend but she doesn't have the time to indefinitely update her every few days on what she's done that day, which is probably along the lines of work, housework, parenting, eating and sleeping. I wouldn't much fancy sharing that every few days either.

It's hard to muster the energy for such frequent exchanges of banality. Especially if she's actually busy.

This, agree entirely.

I have had this situation with a work buddy who was incredibly intense. She was more than just a colleague but simultaneously wanted to speak constantly, insisted on giving colleagues / me pet names, and it became quite suffocating once I had had children. I tried to make it work but once I left the company I just couldn't sustain it. I did explain to her though. At the end of the day, I had life long friends I was struggling to see, and this particular friendship was very "small talk", yet she was very over bearing. It was needy, suffocating and really hard work.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/01/2026 21:03

Sueeet · 24/01/2026 18:39

Is she a friend or an acquaintance? It takes minutes to have a WhatsApp catch up, or message and say I can’t call now, I’ll phone on …. I’m always happy to hear from friends. I think saying you’re too busy is just an excuse and can’t be bothered.

Sometimes, due to depression and long covid, I simply do not have the headspace for even a simple WhatsApp message, @Sueeet. I do apologise to my friends when this has happened, and thankfully they are understanding, and accept that I’m not just being lazy or a bad friend.

I accept it can be hard to understand how a simple WhatsApp message can be an almost impossible task, if you have never experienced it, but I assure you it is very real. To be honest, I am not sure I have the words to explain how it feels - the best I can do is that it feels like thinking through concrete and it makes me feel like I can’t find a single word or thought to send in reply to a message, whilst at the same time, telling me what a failure I am for feeling that way.

RawBloomers · 24/01/2026 21:05

IPM · 22/01/2026 12:19

I also wonder why all these very busy people haven't discovered voice notes?

It takes longer to go for a wee than to send one of those.

How has changing the name from voicemail to voice-notes convinced some people to overlook the fact we stopped doing this when texting came in because they are fucking horrible?

CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:05

@Rhaidimiddim
Our pattern of getting together (we lived in different cities and she travelled a lot for work) was one that suited us well to start with, then got difficult, and then very onerous as my life circumstances changed. I kept trying to explain it to her, but she just didn't hear. Or didn't want the arrangement to change (it was one that massively benefitted her).

At least you explained it to her, that is fair enough. Also not sure why your way of meeting had always been one to benefit her and not equal - sounds odd and maybe not a good friendship to start with.

It's very sad to lose a friend though, and I don't understand why people would want to distance themselves from good friends just because of life circumstances - people seem to shrink their worlds in a way that isn't good for anybody.

VoltaireMittyDream · 24/01/2026 21:11

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I think we’ve misunderstood each other - I’m saying I think it’s common sense to pull back if someone isn’t as interested as you are, not that it’s an offensive thing to do!

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/01/2026 21:14

RawBloomers · 24/01/2026 21:05

How has changing the name from voicemail to voice-notes convinced some people to overlook the fact we stopped doing this when texting came in because they are fucking horrible?

Voice notes as an "instant messaging" style thing don't work either. Because as the recipient you have to be able to listen. I can maybe glance at a message while on a work call or in the office and check to see if it's anything urgent, but I can't be listening to people talk. I can't listen with DD around in case it's something she shouldn't hear. And if it's the private feelings of a friend, I probably shouldn't listen when DH or my other family/friends are near by.

Equally, in most of those situations if it's not appropriate to call it's likely not appropriate to say it out loud into a voice note.

ThrowingDi · 24/01/2026 21:17

To be honest I’m struggling to see the issue here. I think part of it might be that you see yourself as better than she is? You find her tiresome?

When I lived alone, I had a more active social
life than my friends who lived with parents or with their partner. I was early/mid 20s (a few years ago) and I was constantly out or having people over, I was busy socially. It wasn’t the case that I was totally reliant on old friends for socialisation, quite often I was the one to drop out of touch. I would go for dinner/drinks with colleagues most days so it wasn’t even that I needed to actively check in with older friends as to not be lonely if that’s what you’re insinuating. Usually if you live alone, it’s easier for people to come to yours and arrange things from there - to be hub of sorts for your various friendship groups. So yeah, I can’t really see why living alone would make someone more clingy - that’s just this individual friend’s personality.

CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:20

@VoltaireMittyDream
My sense is that this is fundamentally the relational need such people have - to refuse to let anyone leave their lives, and keep reprimanding them forever for not being their perfect obedient service animal.

If a man did this to a woman in an intimate partner relationship we’d instantly recognise it as a major red flag for coercive control.

If we're comparing things to intimate partner relationships ... going distant and non communicative to a once good friend is like when immature men (this takes me back!) can't be bothered with the relationship anymore but instead of explaining and ending it clearly, then just become awkward and uncaring until you have to end it.

What I'm intrigued by with your analogy (and I'm not disagreeing with it) is that I don't get why someone would want to leave a friendship in the way you might want to leave a romantic relationship. At least - not a longstanding friendship. You might leave a partner because they have done something to really upset you, or don't treat you right, or depsite being a lovely person you realise they are just not the one for you. But an established long lasting friendship - if they haven't hurt you, still relate to you the same as ever, and you have many friends so not the same as picking just one special one - why would you want to leave them?

CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:23

@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius

As one of the sociable people on this thread, who would never leave a message unanswered for too long ...
What you have written makes perfect sense and if you were my friend I'd understand. Glad you have good people around you x

FunCrab · 24/01/2026 21:32

A true friendship does not have conditions.
You get each other and respect each other.
This is a one sided relationship and OP is made to feel in the wrong.

There is a need to regroup.
Is this relationship healthy for you or does OP feel like they are always in the wrong.

Does OP know the rules of this relationship?

From what I see the relationship is needy something for me would be uncomfortable.
We all have our own lives and our friends fit around them.
If this person is making you feel bad about you there is a need to re evaluate. Friends should enhance our lives not make us feel sad.
Follow your gut feeling.
For me I would suggest OP put this person in departures.

azu · 24/01/2026 21:58

IPM · 22/01/2026 12:06

It takes seconds to type a few words.

And then if they reply immediately to open up a conversation, that's when you tell them you're busy right now and will get back to them.

I don't understand all these people who say life is 'too busy' and 'too hectic' to type a couple of sentences.

But on the other hand if you see it as over contact and it irritates you, then be honest with yourself.

It's when there are lots of those 'few seconds' to type a few words needed - it can become overwhelming sometimes. If you use the same phone for work (or even if you have different phones!) - Teams messages, email, Whatsapp, social media related to work, it can really start to feel overwhelming.
I would rather talk to people, though - and when I'm busy for distant friends/family I might facetime when I am doing something else (chores, baking, walking somewhere) or chat on the phone in the car on the way home from work - and my distant friends and family do the same! It makes it enjoyable and you feel closer to someone.

Workingmammabear · 24/01/2026 22:01

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/01/2026 20:49

But why do you find it bizarre that people aren't all the same as you?

I’m not using “bizarre” literally. It was a way of expressing mismatch in social needs, not confusion about the existence of different personalities

VoltaireMittyDream · 24/01/2026 22:23

CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:20

@VoltaireMittyDream
My sense is that this is fundamentally the relational need such people have - to refuse to let anyone leave their lives, and keep reprimanding them forever for not being their perfect obedient service animal.

If a man did this to a woman in an intimate partner relationship we’d instantly recognise it as a major red flag for coercive control.

If we're comparing things to intimate partner relationships ... going distant and non communicative to a once good friend is like when immature men (this takes me back!) can't be bothered with the relationship anymore but instead of explaining and ending it clearly, then just become awkward and uncaring until you have to end it.

What I'm intrigued by with your analogy (and I'm not disagreeing with it) is that I don't get why someone would want to leave a friendship in the way you might want to leave a romantic relationship. At least - not a longstanding friendship. You might leave a partner because they have done something to really upset you, or don't treat you right, or depsite being a lovely person you realise they are just not the one for you. But an established long lasting friendship - if they haven't hurt you, still relate to you the same as ever, and you have many friends so not the same as picking just one special one - why would you want to leave them?

I don’t know why someone would do this in a friendship that both parties genuinely valued equally, and thought was super close and working well. 🤷‍♀️ Presumably though it’s not working well for everyone if one person withdraws.

In my experience, when I’ve withdrawn from a friendship, it’s been because it was not working well for me, and the other party was very clear that they were too sensitive to rejection to be able to hear this and respond in a mature way.

I’ve had a couple of friends who I liked perfectly well and thought were lovely people, smart and funny and good company and all the rest - but they were very intense, and I could only really handle them in small doses. They were people who talked a lot and didn’t listen very well. They wanted to depend on me emotionally in a way I didn’t have bandwidth for, and it began to feel suffocating. And if I wasn’t in touch as much as they’d like I’d get little guilt tripping messages saying ‘I miss my buddy ☹️’.

In both cases these were people who struggled with relationships generally, and habitually felt that people weren’t giving them enough attention. They were single without DC and had more time and social energy than I did, at a time when I was dealing with a full-on job and complex intergenerational caring responsibilities, and pretty burnt out in general. But they couldn’t seem to take this into consideration in terms of their expectations form the friendship.

What I was able to offer them wasn’t enough, and they let me know that in not being as available as they wanted me to be, I was causing them tremendous hurt and feelings of rejection and abandonment, etc.

But I had never signed up for that kind of responsibility. We were friends - I wasn’t prepared to be a surrogate parent and major attachment figure.

They were communicating pretty clearly that it would devastate them emotionally if I asked for more space, given that I already wasn’t seeing them enough and that was so hurtful. And they didn’t know how to give space in a relationship anyway, as they had demonstrated in countless friendships and relationships before where they’d driven people away by being too clingy.

I had been trying gently to manage expectations in these friendships, but they just kept pushing and pushing. And finally it got to the point where I just couldn’t do it anymore - giving all I could and getting little back but guilt tripping. I felt totally trapped.

These people probably would have counted me among their closest friends. But I did not count them among mine - they hardly knew anything about me, despite all the time we spent together, because it was always all about them and their needs, and there was no way to renegotiate the terms of the friendship without a massive emotional fallout.

I was raised in a family with very guilt-trippy, demanding, emotionally volatile people who weaponised their fragility - so it’s possible I assume people are less able to be reasonable than they really are.

But I also do tend to be a magnet for the very intense, possessive, guilt-trippy crowd, and these days I put a lot of effort into avoiding that dynamic.

Rhaidimiddim · 24/01/2026 22:28

CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:05

@Rhaidimiddim
Our pattern of getting together (we lived in different cities and she travelled a lot for work) was one that suited us well to start with, then got difficult, and then very onerous as my life circumstances changed. I kept trying to explain it to her, but she just didn't hear. Or didn't want the arrangement to change (it was one that massively benefitted her).

At least you explained it to her, that is fair enough. Also not sure why your way of meeting had always been one to benefit her and not equal - sounds odd and maybe not a good friendship to start with.

It's very sad to lose a friend though, and I don't understand why people would want to distance themselves from good friends just because of life circumstances - people seem to shrink their worlds in a way that isn't good for anybody.

She didn't drive, and I did.

The OP here tells us that she has tried to explain to her friend, just as I did.

And it wasn,'t just that life circumstances changed and the friend got shunted because mynlife shrank ( it didn't, it expanded). It was that my friend liked the little world she lived in and wouldn,'t change her expectations, even after being told many times.

Rhaidimiddim · 24/01/2026 22:30

azu · 24/01/2026 21:58

It's when there are lots of those 'few seconds' to type a few words needed - it can become overwhelming sometimes. If you use the same phone for work (or even if you have different phones!) - Teams messages, email, Whatsapp, social media related to work, it can really start to feel overwhelming.
I would rather talk to people, though - and when I'm busy for distant friends/family I might facetime when I am doing something else (chores, baking, walking somewhere) or chat on the phone in the car on the way home from work - and my distant friends and family do the same! It makes it enjoyable and you feel closer to someone.

And especially when the recipients are so needy of.those messages, and the wrong phrase or meme can kick of WW3.

Isthisit2025 · 24/01/2026 22:42

It’s not just money that’s the root of all evil, it’s now text messaging! And the fact you can (if you’re set up) see if they’ve read it, if they have and not answered it will play tricks. If you have the time to read then reply. If not, don’t read until you do. I’m so glad my phone isn’t pinging all day with mates messaging. I work, look after DGC and have a partner (and I’m old🤭) could not fit anymore in!

Uhohhouse · 24/01/2026 22:57

VoltaireMittyDream · 24/01/2026 18:54

If someone is constantly saying they’re too busy to talk to you, why can’t you take the hint? This is what I never understand.

If someone was taking pains to impress on me how terribly busy they were, and not replying to my messages, I wouldn’t think ‘well they’ve got a cheek! It’s all just a feeble excuse not to communicate with me! I won’t let them get away with it!’

I’d think, huh, maybe I’m coming on a bit strong. Or, maybe they’re just not that into me. And I’d back the fuck off. Not double down and take them to task.

I also don’t get this idea that nobody’s allowed to post on MN until they’ve diligently replied to every text message from their needy friends 🤣

I totally agree with you. How entitled do you have to be to think "wow someone's ignoring me... I should definitely harass them some more until I finally break them down and get a few lines of guilt-inspired half-platitudes. That'll definitely make me feel better".

Its the same with cancelled plans. I couldn't give a shit if a friend cancels going for a drink or something. I have plenty of other things I can do instead. Its so weird when you get these people who make a big deal out of cancellations, it always makes me think: "so just to make sure I've got this right: you would actually prefer to sit across a table in a pub from someone for 2 hours, knowing they tried to cancel and dont want to be here, KNOWING they are literally only here because you guilt tripped them here?".
People are insane 😂

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Uhohhouse · 24/01/2026 23:02

Spiralife · 24/01/2026 19:01

I had a friend like this. He lives in the US. We both had partner and kids, sometimes he would be single with full custody of kids and a couple of times so was I. We have been friends for 27 years. First 10 were great but then he slowly became unreliable. Then he'd be full on again. On and off.
I always put in effort regardless and he would go through stages where we would be in contact then go through stages where he was hardly replying if at all unless I gave a second message.
Finally this year I've had enough of feeling like the effort and friendship was one sided. I decided after reaching out 2x in 3 weeks to no response and watching him post on Facebook I'd had enough. This year one of my new resolutions was to match efforts. Stop feeling like certain relationships are all one sided and it's always me reaching out. So he has been the first to go this year. I just out of the blue blocked him on Facebook and phone number on my phone. Don't know if he's even noticed or cared because he has no other way of getting in contact, we did have a mutual friend but she ditched him years ago for similar so can't be through her. I am still friends with her she would be the only way he could have reached out, but I just can't be bothered with half assed "friends" anymore.

Same could happen to you. Takes 3 seconds to send a message it's not like a 3 hour phone call. Messaging to stay in touch is easy and takes such little effort.

You realise blocking him on FB and your phone wasn't matching his effort, right? Matching his effort would have been to just respond to him when you felt like it, nothing more, nothing less.

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JMSA · 24/01/2026 23:03

It’s rude to only send back an emoji. No excuse, really.
If you value the friendship, don’t carry on as before.

Uhohhouse · 24/01/2026 23:08

CostOfLoving · 24/01/2026 21:00

But it's not about just not understanding friendship, or a particular person's style of friendship. In the OPs instance, and what many have referred to in the thread, is when people have a good friendship that is working however it works, then one person decides to change it.

It's up to them, but also understandable the other person will be confused and hurt by this. (Because it is painful to lose people you love and the good times you share). You think you have someone in your life where you mutually appreciate and understand each other and then suddenly it's all different.

But friendships change. People's lives change. Our dynamics with family members and how often we are in touch can ebb and flow. Romantic relationships break down all the time as people change. Why would the pace and vibe of a friendship stay freeze-framed forever? Sometimes you completely lose touch with friends, or you fall out, or something else alters the nature of it in some way. Every now and then you get a friendship that doesnt change at all in the feel of it, I have two that spring to mind, but i would argue that those two friends naturally have the same style as I do, so it was never going to feel like work.

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