Am I having some kind of fever dream? Robert Jenrick

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Am I having some kind of waking fever dream or was Robert Jenrick part of the Conservative governments he’s now busily accusing of failing Britain? It almost feels like gaslighting.

I dont understand your point.

Social housing is a benefit from the state. 68% of social housing in London has gone to immigrants. There is a homeless issue in London.

It's a written medium! We can all see you jumping horse in just a few posts from:

"That means that they must also be on benefits of some sort" and
"What are the financial parameters to qualify for social housing?"

To oh well social housing must be some sort of "benefit from the state".

Exactly as I predicted you would.

There aren’t any. Eligibility isn’t financial.

We can also see the crashing silence of @Pineneedlesincarpet avoiding the question of whether they are in fact in the UK.

As I say, 50-somethings who've lived most of their life in the UK tend to have some experience of social housing even at second hand and not be quite so far off beam about it.

Anyway, back to Robert Jenrick.

Badenoch today saying Jenrick "simply wasn't a team player". I don't find her very impressive in general, but I think she got it spot on yesterday saying he's Farage's problem now.

I'm not sure you "unite the right" by spying on your colleagues and lying to them...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crmdmkg8gymt

What crashing silence?? What was the question about the UK??! Cripes...you are quite the stickler!

Oh I see. Do I live in the UK. Yes. Have I experience of social housing. Luckily no. Why do you want to know?

My point is that social housing is a state benefit. Obviously. And 68% of social housing in London is used by immigrants. Is that a net benefit to the UK? And would that happen in any other country if you came there as an immigrant.

Well done you.

But in real life, is it a good thing? That the state/taxpayers have to provide your housing in a country you have moved to? Rather than provide it to homeless people from the UK. 68% is a lot. Bearing in mind we have a homeless problem.

The only unity there should be regarding Robert Jenrick is among his constituents in Newark in voting him out at the next general election.

Where are you reading this?

A very high proportion of those in social housing will also be on benefits. Including out of work benefits though. Obviously.

And if 68% of social housing in London is housing immigrants thats a lot.

Well where else does social housing come from. Other than as a benefit from the state.

The 68% figure was in the link you sent.

Where on earth are you reading that?

You seem to have massively failed to understand this paragraph.

”For example, 68% (257,200 of the 376,700) of HRPs born outside the UK and living in London social housing hold a British passport, according to 2021 census data shared with Reuters by the ONS. It shows 29% had a non-UK passport and 3% said they had no passport at all.

1. 47% of lead tenants (not all tenants) were born overseas (not necessarily foreigners)
2. OF THAT 47%, 68% hold a British passport.

So to be clear 47% of LEAD tenants in social housing were born overseas but this does not mean that they are immigrants nor that most social housing tenants are immigrants.

You understanding is what I expect from a Reform supported though.

You misunderstood it. Read it again.

And you don’t need to be on benefits to be in social housing.
Depends on the area / local area.

The majority logically would be.
Is that a good or bad thing in your opinion?
In view of the current economic climate.

There’s no logic and no evidence for your assertion. It’s an assumption based on nothing.

Of course there is logic and evidence. Most people in social housing will also claim benefits of some sort. What parallel universe would they not? I have no problem with the obvious connection between those two things byw.

My comment was on the wisdom of immigrants coming in and being given social housing when there's a housing issue anyway and a limited supply. Doesn't seem like a very good idea.

Yes but you haven’t provided evidence.

You suppose, not evidence

2021 Census. 48% of London social housing has an immigrant head of house. We said this ages ago.

There’s no evidence. You’re making assumptions based on prejudice. If you have evidence showing the number of social housing tenants living on benefits, by all means post a link.

Just Google it. Like a PP told me to do. It all comes up. Friday night and in a rush so not intending to copy and paste something you can look up yourself.

I don't know why you have a bee in your bonnet about this. You're arguing against something that is a statement of the obvious for some reason.

I’m arguing against something you clearly have no evidence for. If it’s so easy to provide proof, just post a link to a credible source and put it to bed.

Source for your claim that most in social housing are on benefits?

I don’t have a view on the need of benefits for Britons born overseas. I think if people need un work benefits then our companies are paying wages that are too low.

Too late. Moved on. Lost impetus to argue about that.

You can take it as a win. (although I'm assuming you are a little more honest about the reality of the sutuation than that).