Am I having some kind of fever dream? Robert Jenrick

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Am I having some kind of waking fever dream or was Robert Jenrick part of the Conservative governments he’s now busily accusing of failing Britain? It almost feels like gaslighting.

I also think an MP changing party mid term should automatically trigger a by election. If they become independent e.g. Corbyn then I would see that more neutral and wouldn’t justify one.

Meanwhile in Fife, where Farage was yesterday when all this broke, his Reform candidate for local council elections falsely claimed to have studied at Cambridge University.

Studied "Atomony[sic] Physiology and Health" there, no less.

Oops!

Quietly deleted it from his Facebook page when he got caught out by the local paper.

[link paywalled]
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/5411927/reform-fife-cambridge-claim/

Oh found another one you may be able to read.

From Tuesday when Valente got caught till Thursday when the Courier published, he and Reform declined to even respond to the paper.

Today Friday Valente has decided it was all a joke:
Reform can­did­ate in by-elec­tion: Cam­bridge Uni claim was a joke
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-courier-advertiser-perth-and-perthshire-edition/20260116/281608131828807

He was an MEP for years, during which he was ranked 748/751 in voting attendance and was fined for misuse of funds, insulting behaviour and non-declaration of gifts.

When his UKIP party ran Thanet council it he brought it to the brink of operational and financial collapse in just 7 months and seem to be following a similar route with his reform led councils now.

I'm not sure why you would want to give someone like that a chance with even more power?

It would be like appointing the guy who couldn't even send an email or run a meeting as your CEO.

Im not sure NF was elected to be an MEP on the promise of good behaviour! 🤣. If you voted for him on that basis then I think you may have slightly misread the situation...

Anyway.. he can't be worse than Keir. At least he supports the UK.

Nope. Farage wants the UK to support him.

While he's off playing with his more exciting friends.

Like Keir "I prefer Davos" Starmer?

He was.

I actually prefer him acknowledging that the Tories were shite. Most on the right seem to have completely forgotten the Tories were in power until very very recently. He just needs to realise he was part of that shite.

But Reform is a better fit for him.

I love that Zahawi’s tweet lambasting Farage has made the rounds. And he only jumped ship because they would not make him a Lord.

www.reuters.com/fact-check/fact-check-foreign-born-people-not-necessarily-foreigners-occupy-48-londons-2025-03-24/#:~:text=Fact%20Check-,Fact%20check:%20Foreign%2Dborn%20people%2C%20not%20necessarily%20foreigners%2C,48%25%20of%20London's%20social%20housing&text=Key%20context%20is%20missing%20from,housing%20provider%20for%20the%20world.%E2%80%9D&text=A%20similar%20post%20%2C%20opens%20new,HRP)%20%2C%20opens%20new%20tab.

68% born abroad are.in social housing in London! Blimey..worse than I thought.

That means that they must also be on benefits of some sort presumably.

You're wrong then.

No, you think he's ok because he's been on a single tracked pathway.

I think you'll find that a pathway to destroy the UK and create such loud and vocal racism based on lies is the thing you should be concerned about, not admire his ability to stick to his guns and ignore the rest.

No wonder people keep voting badly. They're not using their brains or focussing on facts.

You presume all those in social housing are on benefits or just the ones born abroad?

I'd love to see a list of all those Reform MP's and Cllrs and what they've done good for us, the voters.
Then compare it to the Labour ones.

Be interesting wouldn't it?

I actually think this was a stupid career move for Jenrick. He was widely tipped as next leader of the Tories - and while you could fairly say that's not worth much, on the other hand I don't see him lasting long in Reform. He's a huge attention-seeker, and that's not something Nigel Farage tolerates in other people. They'll fall out as soon as Jenrick does something to try and grab some of the limelight, just like Farage and Rupert Lowe. I bet he's not Reform by the next election and then he's got no hope of keeping his seat.

I don't have any opinion on whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that hes stuck to his guns. Im just saying its a fact. Same as ZP which was the context. The PP said she admired ZP as he believes what he says. All I said was so does NF as hes been consistent for 30 years. You keep getting side tracked about the merits of his beliefs (which Im not massively interested in).

Presumably being in social housing means you are claiming a benefit from the State. I understood our immigration policy was not to support immigrants as a general rule. Like most other countries? You have to support yourself and your family.

Well bit tricky as there are only 5 of them. Compared to the Labour MPs and their destructive government which is wrecking the entire country.

Are you even in the UK, @Pineneedlesincarpet ? You don't seem to know very much about my country.

For example, no, you don't need to claim benefits from the state to be in social housing in the UK. Many people in social housing do indeed support themselves and pay full rent from their wages.

I suppose you could try to claim that the fact social housing even exists constitutes a benefit of being in the UK. Ditto being schooling, having a police force, etc.

Why does it mean that? Can you explain the logic?

What are the financial parameters to qualify for social housing?

If you're British, I'm sure you can work that out as easily as I can.

You'll have some idea what to google, at the very least.

Clever.

And yet my answer to the PP was the answer itself.

In any event social housing is a benefit from the state.

Didn't you claim above to be in your 50s? (Sorry, CBA to scroll back & check.)

So if you've spent your life in the UK then even if, like me, you've never lived in social housing, you'll have had friends and acquaintances who live in social housing. Including work colleagues.