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AIBU?

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Should I be proud or angry??

381 replies

Seymorbutts · 13/01/2026 16:54

My 14 yo son is a blackbelt in Taekwondo. He worked really hard to get there, has always had a lot of discipline and regularly competes in competitions. It’s been drilled into him by his teacher and myself that the best way to avoid physical conflict is to walk away and Taekwondo also taught him de-escalation techniques and how to avoid getting into fights. It’s a sport for him. He’s never been in a fight other than the odd push or shove in the playground in his life…until the other day. A boy in the year above him has been “hassling” him for months, as he puts it. I’d call it bullying. He’s had racist abuse from this boy (DS is mixed race in a very white school) I’ve spoken to the school about this, nothing ever seems to change. The boy’s deliberately tripped him up a number of times, causing him to fall, taunts him, steals & hides his schoolbag, and has shoved him more than once. From what I know DS gives back as good as he gets verbally but has never retaliated physically. The other day however, this boy shoved him hard (not just according to DS, multiple witnesses also) against his locker and called him a horrible racial slur and DS finally cracked. He floored him with a kick to the head! The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground. There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school (the school didn’t find out about the incident till much later in the day). I’m in conversation with the school about it now and DS is temporarily suspended pending a final outcome but the other boy hasn’t been suspended. AIBU to be backing my son here? The other boy started it - he got physical first, my son was defending himself, he’s been bullied by this boy for months (who is far bigger and stronger than DS) including being racially abused and the school did nothing about it. IMO this boy had it coming. DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage. I’d never usually defend my son using violence, other than in self-defence, especially because of how highly trained he is, but in this situation I feel it was warranted. As a black woman, if someone called me what that boy called my son (especially if they also shoved me like he did) I can’t say they wouldn’t get a flying kick to the head either! For that reason alone I can’t condemn him for doing what he did. I do feel uncomfortable with condoning violence but I also feel proud my boy stood up for himself AND managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done). And part of me feels like saying to the school, well if you let racism go unchecked what did you think was going to happen?! Needless to say the boy won’t be bothering him again and he’s now a bit of a hero around school!

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NewYearNewMee · 13/01/2026 16:58

I think your son has shown remarkable restraint despite being bullied and subject to racism (which the school seems to deem acceptable as they haven’t stepped in until now) in only responding now. Well done to him!

Hopefully the bully has learned a lesson, if not he might need a firmer kicking.

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/01/2026 17:00

I'm interested to know if the school has been recording these racist incidents as they are required by law to do. I'd ask that question and request the records if I were you.

IndigoIsMyFavouriteColour · 13/01/2026 17:00

I would be proud of him too and wouldn’t hesitate to tell the school that

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 13/01/2026 17:00

Good for your son.

Floatingdownriver · 13/01/2026 17:03

An eye for an eye and the world is blind.

their are failings here they would have prevented your sons response. Be sure to draw attention to that

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 13/01/2026 17:04

I’d be telling the school that they are not permitted to sanction him and you don’t support them in that as they left him with no other choice.

But at home I probably would introduce some punishment - only mild - to reiterate you understand why he did it but violence is never the answer. What if the bully had a knife, your son could’ve escalated matters hugely.

I’d be secretly proud but wouldn’t want to reinforce that kicking people in the head is ever okay in any way (unless they physically attack first).I suspect he will see a natural reward for his behaviour with the bully backing off…

Motherofalittledragon · 13/01/2026 17:05

And what are the school doing about the racism your son is experiencing, school should be dealing with that foremost.

Namenamchange · 13/01/2026 17:05

I think it was fine to retaliate, but completely wrong to kick him in the head. Your son could have killed him, and the outcome for your son would now be very different.
The school should have safeguarded your son before this incident, and shoulder some responsibility, however your son was completely wrong and should have kicked him anywhere but his head

Snoringsighthound · 13/01/2026 17:07

Please ask to see their racist bullying report - they have to tell the council monthly about events.

Ubugly · 13/01/2026 17:07

He had it coming but I would maybe suggest a move that takes all risk of the other person banging his head incase he whacked it hard and severe damage was done. Unless it was needed but I wouldn't be punishing your son at all and the school sounds a joke.

hesaman · 13/01/2026 17:07

He was physically attacked and acted in self defence. Playground rules - that kid won't bother him again.

Tell him not to aim for the head. Liver shot.

TalulahJP · 13/01/2026 17:07

good for him although i’d suggest a boot in the arse would have equally sent him flying preferably into dog crap in the grass as the head is a sensitive area.

he retaliated due to the schools lack of action in a racist matter. as long as you have records proving you contacted them on multiple occasions (emails presumably) then it shows them in a bad light to have done nothing.

Are there any witnesses to all of this, as i suspect billy big balls the attacker will say he did nothing and was innocent and blame your son for going mental at him. especially if billy’s parents are minted and get legal help to boot your son out of school for an “unprovoked attack”. Especially if they too are racists.

WildFlowerBees · 13/01/2026 17:09

Sometimes a bully picks the on the wrong person and it’ll end in tears. Perhaps this will be a lesson to the bully. Good for your son.

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:09

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Edited

Unlikely. If he’s a black belt he knows how hard he’s going to kick someone - he would have control

CloakedInGucci · 13/01/2026 17:09

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 13/01/2026 17:04

I’d be telling the school that they are not permitted to sanction him and you don’t support them in that as they left him with no other choice.

But at home I probably would introduce some punishment - only mild - to reiterate you understand why he did it but violence is never the answer. What if the bully had a knife, your son could’ve escalated matters hugely.

I’d be secretly proud but wouldn’t want to reinforce that kicking people in the head is ever okay in any way (unless they physically attack first).I suspect he will see a natural reward for his behaviour with the bully backing off…

The school doesn’t need OP’s permission to punish him. She can certainly tell them, and him, that she doesn’t agree with it though. Particularly given the fact that the other child not being suspended despite physical and racist bullying!

SwirlyShirly · 13/01/2026 17:10

A kick to the head, particularly from someone with the strength and agility of a black belt taekwondo, could have been lethal.

Unfortunately, your DS went against everything he has been taught by resorting to physical violence - it was retaliation and not self defence in this scenario. And that is how the eye of the law would see it too, had the worst happened.

Notwithstanding this, the other child needs dealing with properly once and for all. It should not have been left to escalate to this point.

NotDarkGothicMama · 13/01/2026 17:12

I'd understand retaliation/self defense, but I'd be going mad about the choice of move. Even if your DS is the best martial artist the world has ever seen, he doesn't have x-ray vision to assess the strength of that boy's skull, any potential aneurysms building up, blood clotting disorders etc. He needs to look after himself, including not risking ruining his life on a GBH/manslaughter charge. Show him some news reports about young men going to prison for killing someone with a single punch etc.

Then I'd be going mad at the school for leaving my DS in a situation where he had to protect himself from verbal and physical harm.

FionnulaTheCooler · 13/01/2026 17:12

The little shit fucked around and found out didn't he. I wouldn't be punishing him if he were my son, he defended himself against physical bullying, and I'd be taking it higher if your son is punished and the other boy isn't.

Pancakeflipper · 13/01/2026 17:13

I'd accept the punishment. But I would be in that school wanting assurance the pupil using racist terminology at my child had received punishment.

And I'd not be punishing my child at home for their actions. I'd be doing the talk on how dangerous their action was. And I'd be making them their fav cake.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 13/01/2026 17:16

This feels like one of those things that needed to have been well documented from the beginning. Each incident noted down and dated. Regular communications with the school and asking them to deal with it and thus when eventually your son did crack and belt him you could forward a dossier of information and prove they mishandled it.

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:18

Be proud of your ds and angry with the school. Make the point very strongly that your ds has reported the bullying and the racism and if the school refuses to defend him according to their own behaviour policy what exactly do they expect your ds to do when faced with violence and abuse?

My dd is also a high belt in her martial art and I had a similar situation in Y9 - dd is small and lean, and a huge girl in Y8 decided to bully her. One lunchtime the girl blocked the doorway to my my dd’s form room and refused to let her leave. My dd was inside legitimately keeping a friend with a broken leg company, the other girl was inside breaking the rules. After some unpleasant exchange of words, my dd eventually tried to squeeze past - the girl tried to physically stop her with a shove and my dd blocked and knocked her to the ground.

I am pleased to report both girls got detention by my dd got a slice of cake during her detention! I told HoY that obviously I’d speak to dd about not getting physical at school, but I wouldn’t ask her not to defend herself so to please make sure the other girl knows to keep her distance. Never had any trouble again.

Lifelover16 · 13/01/2026 17:19

I’d be both proud and angry. Angry at the school for not dealing with the issues effectively.
And proud of my son for defending himself. I certainly wouldn’t punish him.

I think I would ask to see the school policy on bullying and racism, and any reports they have filed of these incidents.

Douane · 13/01/2026 17:19

What a situation the racist bully in the 'very white school' put your well-trained and disciplined, very competent DS.
I'm so sorry for you both that the school allowed this abuse to continue and to escalate by not doing much.
My DS has a black belt in Taekwondo and it's amazing how much self-control the sport gives its practitioners.
Your son exemplified this in his control over not responding to the bully's persistent verbal and physical abuse, until it was provoked so that ignoring was no longer an option.
I think for a 14 year old, who will practice martial arts his entire life, embodying self-control, respect, strength of mind and character, as well as perseverance and spirit, you should be very proud of him @Seymorbutts

CottageLoaf · 13/01/2026 17:20

Your son has shown amazing restraint up to now. I'd be very proud of him. Whilst being glad that he can defend himself, I might question the kick to the head as that could have had more serious consequences.
I think a complaint to the school is in order. They have allowed racism in their school and that boy should have been suspended a long time ago. A complaint with a long list of the racist harassment that has occurred and been ignored by the school is needed.