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Should I be proud or angry??

381 replies

Seymorbutts · 13/01/2026 16:54

My 14 yo son is a blackbelt in Taekwondo. He worked really hard to get there, has always had a lot of discipline and regularly competes in competitions. It’s been drilled into him by his teacher and myself that the best way to avoid physical conflict is to walk away and Taekwondo also taught him de-escalation techniques and how to avoid getting into fights. It’s a sport for him. He’s never been in a fight other than the odd push or shove in the playground in his life…until the other day. A boy in the year above him has been “hassling” him for months, as he puts it. I’d call it bullying. He’s had racist abuse from this boy (DS is mixed race in a very white school) I’ve spoken to the school about this, nothing ever seems to change. The boy’s deliberately tripped him up a number of times, causing him to fall, taunts him, steals & hides his schoolbag, and has shoved him more than once. From what I know DS gives back as good as he gets verbally but has never retaliated physically. The other day however, this boy shoved him hard (not just according to DS, multiple witnesses also) against his locker and called him a horrible racial slur and DS finally cracked. He floored him with a kick to the head! The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground. There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school (the school didn’t find out about the incident till much later in the day). I’m in conversation with the school about it now and DS is temporarily suspended pending a final outcome but the other boy hasn’t been suspended. AIBU to be backing my son here? The other boy started it - he got physical first, my son was defending himself, he’s been bullied by this boy for months (who is far bigger and stronger than DS) including being racially abused and the school did nothing about it. IMO this boy had it coming. DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage. I’d never usually defend my son using violence, other than in self-defence, especially because of how highly trained he is, but in this situation I feel it was warranted. As a black woman, if someone called me what that boy called my son (especially if they also shoved me like he did) I can’t say they wouldn’t get a flying kick to the head either! For that reason alone I can’t condemn him for doing what he did. I do feel uncomfortable with condoning violence but I also feel proud my boy stood up for himself AND managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done). And part of me feels like saying to the school, well if you let racism go unchecked what did you think was going to happen?! Needless to say the boy won’t be bothering him again and he’s now a bit of a hero around school!

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Peach2022 · 13/01/2026 18:11

Proud. Team DS, all the way. And get on the school's case (Governors if necessary) re the prolonged racist bullying that led to this self-defence incident.

Fundays12 · 13/01/2026 18:11

Your son was right.

Pull together all the evidence you have of complaints you have made to the school with regards to your son being racially attacked in the past. Then put in a formal complaint to the school citing that they have not only broken the equities act by allowing your child to be bullied and harassed for months because of his mixed raced heritage but also state the fact they are now choosing to suspend your child for his act of self defence against this racially motivated assault could well be considered be an act of racism on there part to.

Zero tolerance on this. If your in Scotland contact the police as it falls under a hate crime. If your in another part of the UK pull the schools bullying and complaints policy and follow them to the letter. Do not let them suspend your son. My child was mistreated in his secondary school by a few kids because of being autistic all 3 kids involved were suspended before I even got the call to tell me what had gone on. Thats how discrimination should be dealt with

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 13/01/2026 18:12

Personally I'd be telling him I was proud of him, but also making sure he knows he was lucky. Even with a controlled kick, there's a risk he could have seriously hurt or killed the other kid if he fell badly.

And while I wouldn't shed many tears for a bully who got what was coming to him, that could have lifelong consequences for your son.

OSTMusTisNT · 13/01/2026 18:13

I would be proud but suggest a kick in the shins next time as one kick to the head could easily kill someone.

(My Dad always said a good kick in the shins is the best tactic if I was ever cornered! Vaguely remember that sorted the school bully out when she had me pinned up against the wall, best of all she was 3 years older than me).

Strangeencounter · 13/01/2026 18:14

I think i would be quite proud. However also worried! Whats going to happen now?!? He’s got himself in trouble.

And whilst I am no expert on martial arts. I would have thought a black belt could have done something to remove the threat/ show some force that isn’t kicking someone in the head. So for that I would be having words.

Wolfpa · 13/01/2026 18:14

A controlled kick to the head?

couldthisbe2501 · 13/01/2026 18:14

Nearly50omg · 13/01/2026 17:36

You have NO idea how a slight kick could injure or kill someone! Everyone is different and some people have a brain that can withstand lots of heavy bangs on them and other people only take a small knock and they have a brain bleed! The time to find out is not when you’ve killed them though

yeah it could have killed him, I suppose. Not unlike those children that kill themselves due to bullying.

That lad fucked about and found out what happens when you do so. He knew that at any point OPs son could retaliate, he did it anyway. You can paralyse someone from shoving them and then hurting their neck. You can kill someone by hitting them with your fists. What do you suggest OPs son should have done? Tickled him?

Whitesidetable · 13/01/2026 18:15

Yeah I’d be worried that his kick to the head might’ve killed the other party.

the school should’ve been all over the racism as well - the school failed your son.

SapphOhNo · 13/01/2026 18:15

Well done to your son.

Bully won't do it again.

whynotwhatknot · 13/01/2026 18:16

so the other boy hit him first and has had no consequence? wouldnt be standing for that

GreyBeeplus3 · 13/01/2026 18:18

We all know how one n farage started
And it appears that he it considered "banter"
Well I'd be blooming proud of your son
That racist bully would not have stopped until he'd pratically possibly lynched your boy
That cowardly school should be totally ashamed of itself blaming the victim who'd shown such amazing restraint
And letting the thug stroll away free
Stop pretending racism doesn't exist and it was all in just jest
No, heres your proof, and if it wasn't about your sons skin colour then what else was there about him?
Nothing I'm willing to bet
I'm totally peeved off to my back teeth with institutions not doing what they should;
If you don't like black that's your problem
Just fork off and leave us to live our lives
Should you be proud? Yes very, your son handled himself well;
Should you be angry? Yes also; your son was placed in a difficult scenario and the school should've intervened
Luckily, the outcome was to his advantage and that bully will hopefully never try that again on anybody "different"

roastchickenmeal · 13/01/2026 18:20

At least one of two Heads of Year should have dealt with this a while ago. As Vickie says, the remarks should have been been noted and you should see the records. That’s your next move. There’s no excuse for racism and bullying. Schools have policies in place.
The bully won’t do this again, will he? I wonder if there are other thankful victims and their parents in the wings.
Ultimately I support your son but he should have taken him by the legs, not the head tbf.

WeatherDependant · 13/01/2026 18:20

Pancakeflipper · 13/01/2026 17:13

I'd accept the punishment. But I would be in that school wanting assurance the pupil using racist terminology at my child had received punishment.

And I'd not be punishing my child at home for their actions. I'd be doing the talk on how dangerous their action was. And I'd be making them their fav cake.

second this

BustyLaRoux · 13/01/2026 18:20

Suspension seems proportionate to the incident. He did kick someone in the head. And that’s not acceptable. So I wouldn’t bother arguing about that if I were you.

However your DS has been bullied over a period of time and you have made the school aware of this. This latest incident includes racial bullying. Do you have a copy of the school’s behaviour and/or anti bullying policy? Have they followed their own policy? I’m going to suggest they haven’t. I would therefore dig out their complaints policy and start formally making a complaint that they have allowed your son to be bullied by doing nothing about it even though they had been made aware of it. Hold them to account.

If you really wanted to kick up a stink then include the director for education of your local authority as that usually stirs up some trouble for the school and makes them take notice.

I wouldnt approach it from the perspective of trying to have the suspension removed. You might be better to accept the sanction as a proportionate action and probably in line with their policy. However your complaint is that they have not handled the bullying complaints and that this has led to an escalation by the bully. What is being done about that? You are within your rights to demand an answer and don’t be afraid to go high!

Gahr · 13/01/2026 18:21

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Edited

One less racist in the world.

SpryLilacBird · 13/01/2026 18:22

No, I couldn't be angry at my son for this. He has been bullied and racially abused for months. And the other boy was violent first. I would be extremely angry at the school though. If they had dealt with all this when it first started your son wouldn't have snapped or been subjected to the behaviour that he's had to put up with for months on end.

Let's also bear in mind that your son was actually defending himself from violence from the other boy. He didn't just lash out with any old taekwondo move, but a defensive one to protect himself.

Can I ask what punishment the other boy has received for his months of racist abuse and bullying?

I also wanted to tell you of a story I know from a secondary school. Very similar circumstances to your son with a mixed race boy being bullied. A new boy from Europe joins the school and the bully decides he's going to be racist towards him. The very first time he was, the European boy punches him in the face. The teachers and staff at the school spend the following week going out of their way to talk to the European boy, ask him how he is, is he settling in, they hope he's ok etc etc. Meanwhile, the bully did not bother any other kid again for the remainder of his school years.

Stompythedinosaur · 13/01/2026 18:23

Obviously the bullying and racist abuse need to be addressed appropriately.

But kicking the other dc to the head, regardless of provocation, was really dangerous. People die from a single punch or kick to the head. I think it's understandable for the school to consider that disproportionate to the attack.

Youcantwinthemall · 13/01/2026 18:23

NRTFT. My nephew is mixed race and a really laid back kid. He was similarly taunted for months, and eventually called a racial slur, so he punched the kid. He got suspended but my brother (his dad) didn’t tell him off. He also pushed until they also suspended the racist bully. I’d 100% complain they’ve not sanctioned the other kid. Have a look at the relevant policy first (it’ll be available on their website) and check they’ve followed their own procedure. For what it’s worth, I’m proud of your son!

Bigboldfont · 13/01/2026 18:25

Doesn't read well for the school that they suspended the kid who is mixed race for the first incident of violence but have left the white kid there for ongoing, targeted physical bullying and ongoing racial abuse. I'd be going SO high with that one... Racist fucks.

Benjithedog · 13/01/2026 18:26

Back your son all the way. I’d be incredibly proud of him too

umberellaonesie · 13/01/2026 18:26

A similar situation happened to my son at school.
Different martial art.
He was suspended for a week. Which we felt was appropriate. He was also banned from his sports club for a period of time after disciplinary proceedings.
I felt all of the above was the right thing to do. He used skills he has in an uncontrolled environment in a situation which had the potential to escalate.
BUT.......he was never bullied ever again and actually became head boy a couple of years later.

ProcrastinatorsAnonymous · 13/01/2026 18:26

I feel so torn, because in my heart I want to cheer for your son! But I think he was wrong to kick him in the head - not because the older boy didn't deserve it (he absolutely did have it coming!) but because it could backfire on your son much more - as it sounds like it already has.

I think something like a kick to the head needs to be reserved for an actual ATTACK - repeated blows, or with a knife or something - basically a situation where it is not possible to walk away. It sounds like your son COULD have walked away here, and sought to escalate matters some other way with the school - who are clearly failing him. I don't think the fact it was a controlled kick to the head will make much difference when arguing his case.

It's difficult, because if the aim is to stop this BS from the older kid, your son played it precisely right. He should not have had to put up with any of that, and hopefully he will be left alone now. But if the aim is to come out on top longer-term (ie. without negative things like suspensions on his record) then this is not the way.

Sorry he is having to negotiate this crap. At only 14, he did well not to snap before now, and not to use more force than he did. But that won't really help him once he's kicked someone in the head!

In practical terms, I'd make the school show their hand here - what sort of logs have been kept of the older boy's racist behaviour towards your son? What have the school been doing to protect your son and make sure he can access education in an environment where he is not subject to racist abuse?

Blueseudeshoes · 13/01/2026 18:27

I’d be proud, maybe tell him not the head should the issue ever come up again it only takes one wrong knock! But he’s rightfully stuck up for himself
the school need to be helping him with the racial abuse!

Jamesblonde2 · 13/01/2026 18:27

Completely agree OP.

And if the little shit comes back for a second go, make sure your lad does it again. But I doubt the moron will. He’ll have learnt his lesson not to mess with someone with martial arts skills.

umberellaonesie · 13/01/2026 18:27

umberellaonesie · 13/01/2026 18:26

A similar situation happened to my son at school.
Different martial art.
He was suspended for a week. Which we felt was appropriate. He was also banned from his sports club for a period of time after disciplinary proceedings.
I felt all of the above was the right thing to do. He used skills he has in an uncontrolled environment in a situation which had the potential to escalate.
BUT.......he was never bullied ever again and actually became head boy a couple of years later.

He is a grown man now with a very responsible job and great interpersonal skills 😁

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