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AIBU?

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Should I be proud or angry??

381 replies

Seymorbutts · 13/01/2026 16:54

My 14 yo son is a blackbelt in Taekwondo. He worked really hard to get there, has always had a lot of discipline and regularly competes in competitions. It’s been drilled into him by his teacher and myself that the best way to avoid physical conflict is to walk away and Taekwondo also taught him de-escalation techniques and how to avoid getting into fights. It’s a sport for him. He’s never been in a fight other than the odd push or shove in the playground in his life…until the other day. A boy in the year above him has been “hassling” him for months, as he puts it. I’d call it bullying. He’s had racist abuse from this boy (DS is mixed race in a very white school) I’ve spoken to the school about this, nothing ever seems to change. The boy’s deliberately tripped him up a number of times, causing him to fall, taunts him, steals & hides his schoolbag, and has shoved him more than once. From what I know DS gives back as good as he gets verbally but has never retaliated physically. The other day however, this boy shoved him hard (not just according to DS, multiple witnesses also) against his locker and called him a horrible racial slur and DS finally cracked. He floored him with a kick to the head! The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground. There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school (the school didn’t find out about the incident till much later in the day). I’m in conversation with the school about it now and DS is temporarily suspended pending a final outcome but the other boy hasn’t been suspended. AIBU to be backing my son here? The other boy started it - he got physical first, my son was defending himself, he’s been bullied by this boy for months (who is far bigger and stronger than DS) including being racially abused and the school did nothing about it. IMO this boy had it coming. DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage. I’d never usually defend my son using violence, other than in self-defence, especially because of how highly trained he is, but in this situation I feel it was warranted. As a black woman, if someone called me what that boy called my son (especially if they also shoved me like he did) I can’t say they wouldn’t get a flying kick to the head either! For that reason alone I can’t condemn him for doing what he did. I do feel uncomfortable with condoning violence but I also feel proud my boy stood up for himself AND managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done). And part of me feels like saying to the school, well if you let racism go unchecked what did you think was going to happen?! Needless to say the boy won’t be bothering him again and he’s now a bit of a hero around school!

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ReturnToRiding · 13/01/2026 17:39

sticking up for himself- good.

kick in head- not appropriate.
he has presumably the skills to put the boy on his arse without risking serious harm, worth teaching him how to do that

diddl · 13/01/2026 17:39

So he should just let himself be physically assaulted by a person who has been bullying him for months and is escalating?

I don't think anyone thinks that.

Perhaps that a kick to the head wasn't the best defence/retaliation?

StephensLass1977 · 13/01/2026 17:40

Team DS from me, all the way.

When I was at primary school, a girl would just not leave me alone. She would push and push and push, every day. Pinching, prodding, bullying. Months of this. One day at after-school club in the playground, she tried to push me off the climbing frame, and I just snapped. I was so quiet and shy, but I was just pushed to my very limit, and punched her repeatedly. She was screaming for me to please stop. I had her on the floor on her back, straddled her, and just punched.

People snap. Especially when the bullying has been so prolonged. And yes I did get in trouble, and no she didn't. Shrug. That was a good metaphor for what working life was going to be like!

whymadam · 13/01/2026 17:40

TheLadyofShallots · 13/01/2026 17:31

He floored him with a kick to the head!

He could have killed him.
It was a stupid thing to do and your son needs to be aware of how he could have killed someone.

Racial slurs can lead to suicide, btw.

Poodlelove · 13/01/2026 17:40

Such a shame that a very restrained and disciplined black belt had to resort to this , because the school did not deal with it.
But a kick to the head could have killed someone and a prison sentence for your son.
That lad should have been sent home , and his parents should have got him checked and the parents told why this has happened.
Why isn't a full investigation being done asap and the other boy should also be told to remain at home until investigation is complete , do Ofsted know?

DistantConstellation · 13/01/2026 17:41

So he should just let himself be physically assaulted by a person who has been bullying him for months and is escalating? Pull the other one.

Amazed at people who can only see two actions - nothing, or kicking in the head.

He'd have fucked things up for himself massively if the bully had fallen the wrong way.

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/01/2026 17:41

Come out fighting.
Ask them for proof they recorded these racist attacks on your son as the law requires.
Whatever they try to say, keep coming back to their failure to deal with racism in the school.

And yes of course your son should not have kicked the boy in the head. Come on. There were many other moves he could have used.

But this incident isnt the schools get out of jail free card for their failure to deal with the racism against him.

Blorengia · 13/01/2026 17:41

Some people seem to be ignoring a few points from the OP:
"The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground... There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school... DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage.... (He) managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done)."
Fair enough.
No harm done.
Except to the PITA racist abuser's ego.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 13/01/2026 17:42

Proud!!!

The bottom line is this boy won't bully your son again. Your DS has won for now.

I understand that the school had to punish him as a matter of policy for violence but I am surprised there was no punishment to the other boy. It sounds like the school condone racist behaviour. If he hasn't already done so, your DS should document every bullying incident and in particular racist comment and present this to the school. I think you should push for the other child's behaviour to be dealt with. I appreciate your DS may not want to push his luck and he has some lost credibility now.

The more I think about it, the more it seems like the school management are racist. They don't address racist verbal attacks but happily suspend a mixed race student without investigating the other students role. So who cares what they think! I'd be proud of DS if I were you. He endured so much.

Tastesodd · 13/01/2026 17:43

FionnulaTheCooler · 13/01/2026 17:12

The little shit fucked around and found out didn't he. I wouldn't be punishing him if he were my son, he defended himself against physical bullying, and I'd be taking it higher if your son is punished and the other boy isn't.

fucked around and found out didn't he.
Horrible saying.

Dollyfloss · 13/01/2026 17:43

StephensLass1977 · 13/01/2026 17:40

Team DS from me, all the way.

When I was at primary school, a girl would just not leave me alone. She would push and push and push, every day. Pinching, prodding, bullying. Months of this. One day at after-school club in the playground, she tried to push me off the climbing frame, and I just snapped. I was so quiet and shy, but I was just pushed to my very limit, and punched her repeatedly. She was screaming for me to please stop. I had her on the floor on her back, straddled her, and just punched.

People snap. Especially when the bullying has been so prolonged. And yes I did get in trouble, and no she didn't. Shrug. That was a good metaphor for what working life was going to be like!

Brilliant 👏

Blades2 · 13/01/2026 17:44

Why are you even asking?

Rip that school to the ground.

Salvadoridory · 13/01/2026 17:44

I would be proud of all of you, you sound so reasonable and measured and its easy to empathise because you describe it all so vividly. Whatever happens, I wish you well and whilst for him, not ideal to get into the habit of using his art for evil, good on him for standing up to an asshole

Beachtastic · 13/01/2026 17:44

That's ultimately what self-defence skills are for.

usedtobeaylis · 13/01/2026 17:49

I would be proud of both the restraint up until this point and the fact that he fought back - both admirable - but tbh quite tempered by the fact it was a kick to the head. He might be good at his sport but he's also still only 14 and it doesn't really matter what his intentions were. Its still high risk.

My main anger would be at the school and the other boy frankly.

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2026 17:50

Persistent racism. Persistent theft. Persistent assaults. Everyone has a breaking point, I'm surprised he didn't snap sooner.

All those catastrophising about what didn't happen, all the incidents where DS was tripped over and shove could have had the same result, bug the other way.

I'd definitely be making an official complaint to the school and fully supporting DS. I do agree that he should have kicked him in the body, rather than the head, but all the same, the bullying shitbag got his.

GetAbsOrDieTrying · 13/01/2026 17:51

I tell my kids to ignore bullies and escalate it to the teacher. But if the school won’t take action I would tell them to stand up for themselves. Not sure a kick to the head was necessary, but the bully definitely had it coming. Hope the bully has learnt his lesson and the school should realise that if they don’t take action the bullies will continue as they are! The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing! You should push for the bully to be suspended!

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Simplesbest · 13/01/2026 17:53

Kick to the head was bad form. Tell his instructors and they can have a chat with him about a better way to have managed that physically.

Maybeitllneverhappen · 13/01/2026 17:54

If the school had dealt with the situation quickly and effectively, it would never have escalated. The school is responsible.

JHound · 13/01/2026 17:54

I would be proud privately but also warn my son about responding in this manner.

As we see the he is punished and the instigator gets off scott free. He has shown remarkable restraint until now though.

The school sounds spectacularly useless.

GreenCaterpillarOnALeaf · 13/01/2026 17:55

I’ve always taught my kids to hit back if someone hits you, that’s what I was taught and is the only thing that’s ever worked. DD was getting bullied last year and briefly and it stopped when she whacked the girl back. Inherited her mother’s flawless right hook evidently.

I would be concerned about the kick to the head though. I’d probably say something about that. I don’t know anything about martial arts, but I assume booting someone in the head isn’t a good to first attack?

JHound · 13/01/2026 17:56

The school also needs to examine itself. If they both got physical with each other it’s unclear why only one is being punished.

MorningActivity · 13/01/2026 17:57

DistantConstellation · 13/01/2026 17:41

So he should just let himself be physically assaulted by a person who has been bullying him for months and is escalating? Pull the other one.

Amazed at people who can only see two actions - nothing, or kicking in the head.

He'd have fucked things up for himself massively if the bully had fallen the wrong way.

Ok but then can you tell us what you think the ds should have at that précise moment?
Not the mum is complaining to the school etc… clearly it didn’t work
Not ‘not reacting’ etc… because well that has t worked either rigut?

So tell us, what was the ds supposed to do to get the bully of his back when he had been physically assaulted himself (pushed into the lockers)
Can you tell at what point the bully would have stopped of the ds hadn’t reacted the way he did?

sausagepastapot · 13/01/2026 17:58

Your son is awesome! That is the only way to deal with bullies sometimes. Good on him!!! He absolutely did the right thing

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