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Should I be proud or angry??

381 replies

Seymorbutts · 13/01/2026 16:54

My 14 yo son is a blackbelt in Taekwondo. He worked really hard to get there, has always had a lot of discipline and regularly competes in competitions. It’s been drilled into him by his teacher and myself that the best way to avoid physical conflict is to walk away and Taekwondo also taught him de-escalation techniques and how to avoid getting into fights. It’s a sport for him. He’s never been in a fight other than the odd push or shove in the playground in his life…until the other day. A boy in the year above him has been “hassling” him for months, as he puts it. I’d call it bullying. He’s had racist abuse from this boy (DS is mixed race in a very white school) I’ve spoken to the school about this, nothing ever seems to change. The boy’s deliberately tripped him up a number of times, causing him to fall, taunts him, steals & hides his schoolbag, and has shoved him more than once. From what I know DS gives back as good as he gets verbally but has never retaliated physically. The other day however, this boy shoved him hard (not just according to DS, multiple witnesses also) against his locker and called him a horrible racial slur and DS finally cracked. He floored him with a kick to the head! The boy wasn’t knocked out or anything and according to DS he didn’t kick with full force but it did knock him to the ground. There was no real damage done, it wasn’t severe enough for him to go to hospital or even go home from school (the school didn’t find out about the incident till much later in the day). I’m in conversation with the school about it now and DS is temporarily suspended pending a final outcome but the other boy hasn’t been suspended. AIBU to be backing my son here? The other boy started it - he got physical first, my son was defending himself, he’s been bullied by this boy for months (who is far bigger and stronger than DS) including being racially abused and the school did nothing about it. IMO this boy had it coming. DS also used a controlled kick, deliberately designed not to do severe damage. I’d never usually defend my son using violence, other than in self-defence, especially because of how highly trained he is, but in this situation I feel it was warranted. As a black woman, if someone called me what that boy called my son (especially if they also shoved me like he did) I can’t say they wouldn’t get a flying kick to the head either! For that reason alone I can’t condemn him for doing what he did. I do feel uncomfortable with condoning violence but I also feel proud my boy stood up for himself AND managed to have the discipline in the heat of the moment not to hurt him more severely (which he definitely could of done). And part of me feels like saying to the school, well if you let racism go unchecked what did you think was going to happen?! Needless to say the boy won’t be bothering him again and he’s now a bit of a hero around school!

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FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 13/01/2026 17:22

CloakedInGucci · 13/01/2026 17:09

The school doesn’t need OP’s permission to punish him. She can certainly tell them, and him, that she doesn’t agree with it though. Particularly given the fact that the other child not being suspended despite physical and racist bullying!

Well it depends on the punishment. Admittedly she can't do anything about the suspension, but plenty of kids at my friend's child's school don't do after school detentions because their parents don't allow it.

DistantConstellation · 13/01/2026 17:23

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:09

Unlikely. If he’s a black belt he knows how hard he’s going to kick someone - he would have control

You can't predict how people will land if they fall over. Unfortunately I've seen a case where a man was paralysed from a single punch because of how they landed.

GreenPoms · 13/01/2026 17:23

Retaliating is justified. A kick to the head though is too far.

Happyjoe · 13/01/2026 17:23

I think the school owes your son an apology.

No I wouldn't punish your son, I presume the school will do that. Poor lad, having that racism and bullying day in day out. He's shown restraint until now.

DeedlessIndeed · 13/01/2026 17:25

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:09

Unlikely. If he’s a black belt he knows how hard he’s going to kick someone - he would have control

But adults, let alone teens misjudge situations all the time. What if the bully had moved toward the kick or knocked his head back into a corner of a wall/locker. Even concussion can mess you up in later life.

I'm all for retalliation against bullies and racists. Sometimes it is a sharp shock they need to learn. But a kick to the head is far too dangerous.

InOverMyHead84 · 13/01/2026 17:26

You are not being unreasonable to back your son, but as a Deputy Head of Year, I would consider that two wrongs do not make a right.

The use of Racist Language towards your son is abhorrent and should also result in a suspension/isolation if proven.

The use of violence (even if controlled) cannot be justified. And would be down for equivalent reaction to the racist language.

I would have great sympathy for your son in this case however, and would look for supportive measures to be in place around this. He should not have to put up with that in an environment that's meant to be safe.

OneFunBrickNewt · 13/01/2026 17:28

I'm glad your son stood up for himself, but the issue is the kick to the head.
Although it is totally understandable why your son did this. I think the fairest outcome would have been suspension for both.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 13/01/2026 17:28

I'd be asking the school what their policy is on hate crime and saying you'll report it to the police if they don't follow up the correct procedures. It could be argued your son was defending himself

whymadam · 13/01/2026 17:29

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Edited

No. Read the post! OP's son is highly trained in Taekwondo.

TheRealLillyAllenVerifiedAccount · 13/01/2026 17:30

Well he wont be bothering your son anymore will he.

I cant say Id be angry but I would be having a word about whether a kick to the head was sensible, even if it was "controlled". People die from one punch to the head. If he'd kicked him somewhere else it would have had the same effect probably but without the risk of serious harm.

Id be emphasising the importance of de-escalation obviously.

Dollyfloss · 13/01/2026 17:30

I’d be livid they haven’t done anything about the racist stuff - the boy should’ve been suspended. That’s what stands out to me.

In this day and age there’s absolutely no excuse for allowing this boy to get away with racist behaviour. Shocking.

I only wish I’d been there to see the bully get his comeuppance - sounds like something from a movie 😂

TheLadyofShallots · 13/01/2026 17:31

He floored him with a kick to the head!

He could have killed him.
It was a stupid thing to do and your son needs to be aware of how he could have killed someone.

ForFluentLimeFatball · 13/01/2026 17:32

Good for your son. Likely will be troubled no longer

TheLadyofShallots · 13/01/2026 17:32

whymadam · 13/01/2026 17:29

No. Read the post! OP's son is highly trained in Taekwondo.

So being trained in Taekwondo means someone's head always survives being kicked at?

TheRealLillyAllenVerifiedAccount · 13/01/2026 17:33

whymadam · 13/01/2026 17:29

No. Read the post! OP's son is highly trained in Taekwondo.

So?

Controlling how hard or where you kick someone on the head, it's still kicking them in the head. Someone can bang their head on a cupboard and get concussion or worse.

Climbingrosexx · 13/01/2026 17:33

I'm a great believer that if you can prevent an escalation by walking away then you should. Your son has shown remarkable restraint knowing he could have floored this thug at any time. I would certainly be proud of him for that and I would be telling the school that. As for finally snapping and giving this thug what he deserves, well we are all human aren't we? I'm glad he wasn't severely injured for your son's sake more than anything. Hopefully the school will hang their heads in shame and you will both get the apology you deserve.

StripyShirt · 13/01/2026 17:35

Very well done to your son, you should be proud.

A head kick is a bit risky for the kicker, however, as it could be caught. Better to aim lower than the hands next time 🙂

whymadam · 13/01/2026 17:35

Your son didn't get the support asked for and needed at school. He sorted it himself, professionally, with restraint. Bully boy just learned the biggest lesson of his life. One he will never forget.
Well done your son, OP!

AwfullyGood · 13/01/2026 17:35

Can you be both proud and angry?

Proud that he stood up for himself but angry that it was a kick to the head. It's hugely dangerous, one knock to the temple in the right area or the impact of the blow or the fall could have killed that other child.

You can tell him your proud of him for standing up for himself but need to discuss how serious and dangerous a blow to head was too.

diddl · 13/01/2026 17:36

No. Read the post! OP's son is highly trained in Taekwondo.

He's a 14yr old retaliating to a hard shove from a bully.

He may not have been as controlled as he could/should have been.

Perhaps he was wearing shoes & usually practises in bare feet?

Nearly50omg · 13/01/2026 17:36

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:09

Unlikely. If he’s a black belt he knows how hard he’s going to kick someone - he would have control

You have NO idea how a slight kick could injure or kill someone! Everyone is different and some people have a brain that can withstand lots of heavy bangs on them and other people only take a small knock and they have a brain bleed! The time to find out is not when you’ve killed them though

Dollymylove · 13/01/2026 17:36

Well done that lad!! Back your son all the way, ok a kick to the head wasnt the best idea but the little shit had it coming. Maybe he will think twice next time. Oh and yes, tell them in no uncertain terms to sort out the racism, speak to the police if the school wont act 😬
P.S my 11 year old DGD does Tai kwondo since age 6 and any would be bullies know what to expect if they try to start anything 😉

Keepingthingsinteresting · 13/01/2026 17:36

Toddlerteaplease · 13/01/2026 17:00

He could have killed him with a kick to the head. Or caused a serious injury. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Edited

So he should just let himself be physically assaulted by a person who has been bullying him for months and is escalating? Pull the other one.

Your son is a legend @Seymorbutts . If the school are going to suspend him they should also suspend the bully whose behaviour is just as bad, arguably worse given it is a persistent and escalating course of conduct. Please back your son, he has shown admirable restraint and dealt with the problem when the school was unwilling or unable to do so. Good for him, you should be proud.

Jellycatspyjamas · 13/01/2026 17:36

WandaW · 13/01/2026 17:09

Unlikely. If he’s a black belt he knows how hard he’s going to kick someone - he would have control

Absolutely to earn a black belt you have to demonstrate you can control the force you use. In saying that, if the other boy hit his head when he fell - on a radiator or door frame the outcome could have been very different and no one would care how well your son controlled the kick. In that basis I’d be talking to him about lessen ways of defending himself. But you can only push someone so far and they’re going to react. I wouldn’t punish him at home, and would want to see school records of the racism against your son and what they’ve done to address that.

BettysRoasties · 13/01/2026 17:39

School should have dealt with the racist bully.

Bully fafo.

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