To wonder if past trauma was a factor in the Renee Nicole Good murder and that, while not absolving agent, it shows ICE should select agents more carefully?

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Reading this from the BBC, I wonder if the agent was suffering from previous trauma. They had earlier been in the Iraq War and then had huge number of stitches after being dragged by a car while arresting apparently a 'child sex offender' illicit migrant last March.

Thus I wonder if, because Renee Good clipped them with the car earlier(as The Times indicates), shooting at her car as she drove past was less a rational decision borne from evil and more an instinctive reaction from recent trauma with cars on the job?

This is NOT an excuse. But I wonder if it also shows that ICE are selecting traumatised agents who are too dangerous, due to this, to be in that position?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx4qd4d16no

I’ve followed her, thank you! Do you follow Heather Cox Richardson? She’s an American historian who puts current events into context and posts every day about what has happened during that day. It’s usually a pretty horrifying read.

I think it’s good that people take a stand, but it’s scary that the people that care enough to make a stand are then not in position.

I think the concepts that boost an obscure term into wider usage is more important, actually, and are what should be credited.

She's very good, definitely.

The family could have avoided all this by taking the (currently) 2,600 dollars per person and the free plane fare and self-deported together.

they are from Ecuador (a generally safe country) so likely have little basis for asylum. They came in at 2024 iirc can be deported more quickly as it’s under the two-year mark and so are considered eligible for expedited removal. The best thing the mother can do at this point is apply for self-deportation for the rest of the family.

🥱 Nope. There’s zero evidence the family were offered money to self-deport.

Their immigration lawyer confirmed they have an active asylum case with no current deportation order. They were following the appropriate legal pathway.

Ecuadorians have had successful asylum cases. Saying a whole country is generally safe is (yet more) obfuscation and also irrelevant as asylum cases are validated on individual merits and if those individuals have reason to fear for their lives. Ironically though, they probably should fear for their lives in America when people like you support regimes like Trump’s. Mission accomplished, hey?

Just more lazy misinformation to justify detaining a five-year-old boy.

They came through on the CBP app, as long as the father had no pending criminal convictions then his entire family would have been eligible. You get 2,600 per person and free airfare. It is available to all asylum seekers, as long as they don’t have a criminal record.

Their immigration lawyer confirmed they have an active asylum case with no current deportation order

They will finish these proceedings in the facility and then be deported. Like I said, best thing the mother can do is take the rest of the family and apply for self-deportation and leave voluntarily.

They were following the appropriate legal pathway. Ecuadorians have had successful asylum cases

It’s a very high standard though. Because Ecuador is a functional country, they basically have to prove that the government is targeting them specifically. Like if the father was a journalist and being targeted for his reporting. Thats going to be a very high bar and I doubt they have a case.

Like you should talk about misinformation anyway as weren’t you maintaining that they used the boy as ‘bait’ to get his dad, when what actually happened is that he legged it.

No. Multiple witness accounts attest that he was taken from the running vehicle returning him home from pre-school. They directed him to knock on the door of the house. They then held him by his Spider-Man backpack to lure the inhabitants out. They have detained both him and his father.

You know this though, but thank you for the opportunity to detail this atrocity again. The more eyes that see this the better.

No. The $2500 was a specific program offered through migrant shelters to predominantly unaccompanied teenage minors.

You’re correct that they entered via a border, used the app appropriately and presented themselves to customs and border officials. They followed the legal process, they have the associated paperwork with a legal asylum case pending. They were doing everything right.

Still, even if none of those things were true, and they demonstrably are, I’m still not into detaining five-year-old boys with bunny hats on. Neither is any other decent person.

Thanks again for the opportunity to present the facts of Trump’s monstrous regime and their propensity for detaining young children.

Reuters have an Instagram post of the Columbia Heights Education Superintendent talking about how four of her students have been taken in recent days by armed and masked men. I know that will likely please you, but for the rest of us, it’s yet more proof of the depths of depravity being reached.

You have changed your story from ‘baiting the dad’ (who ran) to ‘baiting the mother’. You really are shameless

Why are you so unaware of the basics?

https://www.dhs.gov/cbphome

They are abusing a system intended for people facing serious persecution, to benefit themselves. More and more asylum routes will be shut down because of people like this trying to scam the system.

Ecuador is a safe, orderly country. Unless the parents can prove they were directly targeted by the government (a very high bar), they simply have no case.

No. I did not mention the mother. Yes, I have no shame, not being the one defending this. Thank you 😊

They are not illegal aliens. They have a valid pending asylum case.

They are eligible for this program, as long as the parents have no criminal record and give up their asylum claims (which is not going to happen unless they have direct evidence of persecution by the Ecuadorean government)

I am slightly confused by the stance that some posters take, and one imagines the US

so if i have this right, people who enter the country and do not take the legal route to stay should be deported

got that, understandard that

but also people who enter the county and DO take the legal route to stay should also be deported

Only a blackshirt could defend what happened to this five year old child. And only an idiot would come onto a parenting site and defend such behaviour.

They are from Ecuador and are very unlikely to have any basis for asylum.

The bar for asylum is quite high, in their case, the parents must show that they have been specifically targeted by their own government.

And nothing for the parents who took their children to live in a country where they had no basis for asylum?

They could have avoided all this by self-deporting

I have to ask, does everyone in your circle have the same lack of empathy, humanity and understanding as you

This wording is 100% an attack, and it shows you genuinely don’t care to understand my position. You already condemn my position without bothering to understand it.

I want an end to illegal immigration. I want illegal aliens as well as fake asylum seekers to go back to their home countries.

Liam’s family is from Ecuador, which is a safe, stable country. They have no reason to leave, except that they thought they could game the asylum system. There is zero basis for their case, and the whole family should have been deported together.

Why do you think they should stay? They’ve been in the US for maybe 16 months at most? Please, give me your reason.

The fact they have an legal asylum claim proves different.

Do you feel the same about South Africans?

That's a loaded question based on some incorrect assumptions.

I think that the legal process should be followed.

I think the inhumane, brutal illegal actions of ice should be taken seriously and challenged. Obama removed more illegal immigrants than this Trump regime, and he did it legally, humanly and without fuss.

What ice is doing now is against the American constitution and needs to be stopped. I can't comprehend how you can continue to defend this.

They went to an emergency room seeking help for their 7 year old child.

ICE arrested the 7 year old and her parents.

the family is here legally.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/01/ice-detains-family-seeking-emergency-care-for-child-at-portland-hospital.html