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My cousin “loves her DD more than a normal mother”

304 replies

Sally20099 · 02/01/2026 17:54

This sounds petty, and it probably is, but I’m getting rather fed up of my cousin constantly telling me I wouldn’t understand how much love she has for her DD because she is “special” (ie she needed IVF to conceive and waited many years for this to materialise). It’s now been over a year and my cousin still goes on about this, and in all seriousness regularly announces or implies that those who conceive naturally can not love their own children as much because her struggle was so immense (and btw I’m not suggesting it wasn’t anything other than heartbreaking). AIBU if I say something and end this nonsense or should I just put up with it?

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Puffalicious · 02/01/2026 18:13

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:07

Ugh the puritan mums

the ones who bang on about breastfeeding and orgasming through childbirth

first time motherhood is tough 😂

Tick, tick, tick! My sister ticked most of these. My God was she the breast-feeding police/ playground police (looking down when I allowed my DC to climb, be independent, take risks- like we all should)/ sleepover police/ socialising police/ hobbies police. No matter what others did they were wrong & not as devoted a mother as she. Honestly OP, it doesn't get any better.

Iamdefinitelynamechangingforthis · 02/01/2026 18:14

I was told by a friend that I couldn’t possibly be a real mother to my DD as she was born by C-Section. The fact that we would both have died without it was immaterial; the only way to be a mother in this woman’s eyes was if you’d had a vaginal birth, preferably one that took 12+ hours as that ‘proved you loved and wanted’ the baby.

She was talking utter crap. And your sister/cousin is also talking crap. And this is me, who had a lot of miscarriages, spent most of the single surviving pregnancy in hospital and had a c-section talking.

The way you have a child does not give you some weird preferential’ way of loving them.

I don’t know how you can tell her that she’s talking crap though, unless you say something along the lines of

’ooo I must remember to tell our mum/your mum this! She’ll be so pleased to know that she couldn’t possibly love you anywhere near as much as you love your child’

And wait for her to not want to hurt her mother.

Avantiagain · 02/01/2026 18:15

Don't engage. She will stop saying it eventually.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:15

Iamdefinitelynamechangingforthis · 02/01/2026 18:14

I was told by a friend that I couldn’t possibly be a real mother to my DD as she was born by C-Section. The fact that we would both have died without it was immaterial; the only way to be a mother in this woman’s eyes was if you’d had a vaginal birth, preferably one that took 12+ hours as that ‘proved you loved and wanted’ the baby.

She was talking utter crap. And your sister/cousin is also talking crap. And this is me, who had a lot of miscarriages, spent most of the single surviving pregnancy in hospital and had a c-section talking.

The way you have a child does not give you some weird preferential’ way of loving them.

I don’t know how you can tell her that she’s talking crap though, unless you say something along the lines of

’ooo I must remember to tell our mum/your mum this! She’ll be so pleased to know that she couldn’t possibly love you anywhere near as much as you love your child’

And wait for her to not want to hurt her mother.

Barack Obama Mic Drop GIF

I don’t know how you can tell her that she’s talking crap though, unless you say something along the lines of
’ooo I must remember to tell our mum/your mum this! She’ll be so pleased to know that she couldn’t possibly love you anywhere near as much as you love your child’
And wait for her to not want to hurt her mother.

edit: from a proud c section, bottle feeding dd due to v large boobs (NOT a humble brag), allows some screen time mum!!

Namesss · 02/01/2026 18:16

TomatoSandwiches · 02/01/2026 18:09

That's just ignorance and plain rude.

Trust me, it wasn't nice hearing it constantly especially while I was on mat leave with my DC and she knew I was going back to work after mat leave.

I think this was the reason why I didn't keep in touch.

Namesss · 02/01/2026 18:17

Iamdefinitelynamechangingforthis · 02/01/2026 18:14

I was told by a friend that I couldn’t possibly be a real mother to my DD as she was born by C-Section. The fact that we would both have died without it was immaterial; the only way to be a mother in this woman’s eyes was if you’d had a vaginal birth, preferably one that took 12+ hours as that ‘proved you loved and wanted’ the baby.

She was talking utter crap. And your sister/cousin is also talking crap. And this is me, who had a lot of miscarriages, spent most of the single surviving pregnancy in hospital and had a c-section talking.

The way you have a child does not give you some weird preferential’ way of loving them.

I don’t know how you can tell her that she’s talking crap though, unless you say something along the lines of

’ooo I must remember to tell our mum/your mum this! She’ll be so pleased to know that she couldn’t possibly love you anywhere near as much as you love your child’

And wait for her to not want to hurt her mother.

😦😦😦😦😦
The c section comment..... What on Earth!

GreenPoms · 02/01/2026 18:17

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:07

Ugh the puritan mums

the ones who bang on about breastfeeding and orgasming through childbirth

first time motherhood is tough 😂

Having an orgasm whilst giving birth?? 😮

Baby2duejuly2026 · 02/01/2026 18:17

Iamdefinitelynamechangingforthis · 02/01/2026 18:14

I was told by a friend that I couldn’t possibly be a real mother to my DD as she was born by C-Section. The fact that we would both have died without it was immaterial; the only way to be a mother in this woman’s eyes was if you’d had a vaginal birth, preferably one that took 12+ hours as that ‘proved you loved and wanted’ the baby.

She was talking utter crap. And your sister/cousin is also talking crap. And this is me, who had a lot of miscarriages, spent most of the single surviving pregnancy in hospital and had a c-section talking.

The way you have a child does not give you some weird preferential’ way of loving them.

I don’t know how you can tell her that she’s talking crap though, unless you say something along the lines of

’ooo I must remember to tell our mum/your mum this! She’ll be so pleased to know that she couldn’t possibly love you anywhere near as much as you love your child’

And wait for her to not want to hurt her mother.

I’m opting for an elective after having a c section with my first and one of my “friends” was mortified, said I was giving up my chance of doing to main motherly thing you can do your your baby.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:17

Puffalicious · 02/01/2026 18:13

Tick, tick, tick! My sister ticked most of these. My God was she the breast-feeding police/ playground police (looking down when I allowed my DC to climb, be independent, take risks- like we all should)/ sleepover police/ socialising police/ hobbies police. No matter what others did they were wrong & not as devoted a mother as she. Honestly OP, it doesn't get any better.

ugh you poor thing

Sometimes hell isn't motherhood but other mums, honestly

ohyesido · 02/01/2026 18:17

That would get many women’s backs up, it’s so smug and condescending

5128gap · 02/01/2026 18:17

I'm sure there's many of us who can't believe the love we have for our child isn't abnormally great, so intense can it feel. However common sense tells us we are wrong, and etiquette says this is something we think privately. Your cousin seems to be temporarily missing both. I'd try not to take it personally as its more likely to be an outpouring of her joy than a dig at you, plus the need to reframe what must have been a very difficult route to motherhood as a positive.

Namechangeyname · 02/01/2026 18:17

Barnbrack · 02/01/2026 18:02

We had a lot of miscarriages before our eldest and the relief of finally having a baby and overcoming infertility was immense. Coupled with first baby preciousness it's easy to feel no other woman ever loved a baby so much. I adored my son from the moment he was conceived and couldn't believe he fully exists. Which has been useful because it carried me through all his health problems. A few years later we had our daughter and I love her just as much but that slightly manic and obsessive edge isn't there because I had already 'overcome infertility' for want of a better phrase (it was 5 years and 6 losses before we had him and a lot of medical intervention after natural conception) and honestly I'd say it is a more normal love and less edged with anxiety. Terror and trauma.

So if say your sister probably genuinely believes what she says and at some point years from now will realize the truth. That the love we feel for a newborn can be so massively overwhelming it's unbelievable to think it's a universal experience and your pregnancy and fertility journey have been more exceptional you can assume your love is too. Be gentle with her. It's not extra love, it's extra trauma and she'll probably eventually realize that like I did.

Most sensible and insightful post on here. 👆👆

Namesss · 02/01/2026 18:18

Baby2duejuly2026 · 02/01/2026 18:17

I’m opting for an elective after having a c section with my first and one of my “friends” was mortified, said I was giving up my chance of doing to main motherly thing you can do your your baby.

😦😦😦😦😦

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:19

GreenPoms · 02/01/2026 18:17

Having an orgasm whilst giving birth?? 😮

Yes!! Omg banging on about home birth and how birthing is an experience and a good mum is present and how the baby coming out of you should cause an orgasm!!

Barnbrack · 02/01/2026 18:20

Namechangeyname · 02/01/2026 18:17

Most sensible and insightful post on here. 👆👆

Thank you, it's insight gained through a year of therapy for PTSD from my eldests health issues. 😂 Seriously though, talking therapy after infertility should be no negotiable because you carry a lot into your parenting journey you may not even be aware of

Puffalicious · 02/01/2026 18:21

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:17

ugh you poor thing

Sometimes hell isn't motherhood but other mums, honestly

Absolutely. I love my sister, and after 23 years of it I'm used to it, but when I look back I realise how bad she was. We shall never mention that my eldest DC did a little better than her DD in A levels 🙄

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 02/01/2026 18:21

Baby2duejuly2026 · 02/01/2026 18:17

I’m opting for an elective after having a c section with my first and one of my “friends” was mortified, said I was giving up my chance of doing to main motherly thing you can do your your baby.

The main thing you can do for your baby?

🤣🤣 tell her she's clearly a shit parent if she thinks it begins and ends at the birth part.

Not that major abdominal surgery is a walk in the park anyway.

Ffs, people speak shit sometimes. Just ignore her and good luck 💐

anericanidiot · 02/01/2026 18:21

I have an ivf baby and I don’t love him more than my other son who was conceived naturally. She’s talking shite but she’s 1 year PP - so currently mental. She’ll come around and hopefully be embarrassed by her carry on

landslide51 · 02/01/2026 18:21

I'd just agree with her 'you're right I don't understand at all'. And let her take from that what she will.

Rosieposy89 · 02/01/2026 18:22

Tbf, maybe she appreciates motherhood more because she has had to battle to get there.

I have a 4yo dd and have been ttc a sibling since 2023. I wouldn't say I love my dd more than any other mother loves their child. However, I never take a second of my dd's life for granted as I know I'm likely to only experience this once.

Femalemachinest · 02/01/2026 18:24

I worked with someone who refused to do her job because she might be pregnant, she was starting ivf. I was taken off my job to do hers. I did state to my supervisor that I could also be unknowingly pregnant and would her baby be more important than mine. I was made to do her job, she got moved to an easier one.

Iamdefinitelynamechangingforthis · 02/01/2026 18:25

@Namesss what made it worse was that it wasn’t a one-off comment. We’re no longer in contact as it really traumatised me.

@Baby2duejuly2026 good luck - also be aware you do still bleed after a c-section (no-one warned me so it was a shock!). Also travel mugs / straws will be your friend as it means you can drink even if you haven’t got a free hand x

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 02/01/2026 18:26

Might keep my kids on their toes now and rank them according to the ease of their births, length of time of conception, how easy they were as babies, general attitude now.....

I'll stick up a wee score board in the kitchen and my house will be like the hunger games while they all compete to be the favourite.

RitaFires · 02/01/2026 18:26

My baby is a much wanted IVF baby but that doesn't make her more special than anyone else. She's very loved by me but our bond is not in a competition with other mothers. Maybe your cousin is finding aspects of motherhood hard and she's comforting herself by saying these things.

At the hospital my baby was called a special baby but that was a euphemistic term for being IVF and having slightly different risk factors as a result.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 02/01/2026 18:26

Puffalicious · 02/01/2026 18:21

Absolutely. I love my sister, and after 23 years of it I'm used to it, but when I look back I realise how bad she was. We shall never mention that my eldest DC did a little better than her DD in A levels 🙄

😂😂😂