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My cousin “loves her DD more than a normal mother”

304 replies

Sally20099 · 02/01/2026 17:54

This sounds petty, and it probably is, but I’m getting rather fed up of my cousin constantly telling me I wouldn’t understand how much love she has for her DD because she is “special” (ie she needed IVF to conceive and waited many years for this to materialise). It’s now been over a year and my cousin still goes on about this, and in all seriousness regularly announces or implies that those who conceive naturally can not love their own children as much because her struggle was so immense (and btw I’m not suggesting it wasn’t anything other than heartbreaking). AIBU if I say something and end this nonsense or should I just put up with it?

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MrsChristmasHasResigned · 04/01/2026 21:53

Alwayseatingpringles · 04/01/2026 21:41

Where is the empathy and heart, just awful 😞

Why is it ok for the cousin in the OP to tell someone she loves her children more than they love theirs?

ClaredeBear · 04/01/2026 21:54

Perhaps you could gently explain that some parents might take offence to her trying to undermine or minimise the love they have for their children and that all parents feel that way but they keep it to themselves

Jadedpersuaded · 04/01/2026 21:57

FuzzyWolf · 02/01/2026 18:00

I’ve had IVF, a second trimester miscarriage, multiple early miscarriages and a neonatal death and still don’t feel my children are any more special than other children. All children are special.

Sorry for your losses @FuzzyWolf

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/01/2026 22:00

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 02/01/2026 18:26

Might keep my kids on their toes now and rank them according to the ease of their births, length of time of conception, how easy they were as babies, general attitude now.....

I'll stick up a wee score board in the kitchen and my house will be like the hunger games while they all compete to be the favourite.

All mine have to do is make me a good cup of coffee…..

Strawberrryfields · 04/01/2026 22:07

Grammarninja · 04/01/2026 21:36

It seems like I've touched a nerve there. That wasn't my intention. I had one of the longest IVF 'journeys' out there full of disappointments, miscarriages, financial woes etc. I do know the scope of it. I've lived through it. But I never made it my identity and definitely didn't make it part of my Dd's.

Yes it was a really dismissive comment. I’ve also been private about my ‘journey’ as that’s also my preference but I know for others it helps them to talk about it or some want to remove the stigma etc. Great for them, not for me.
It’s unfair to dismiss that as attention seeking/ enjoying the drama just because they’re managing it differently to you. Some people find ivf hard and if they find it easier to manage through being open about it then they should do just that. Why suffer in silence?

mumstheword1x · 04/01/2026 22:11

Oh I have lesbian neighbours who had their son via IVF and sperm donation. Our little boy was born 3 weeks before thiers, but apparently their little boy was more wanted, because (thankfully ) me and my husband fall pregnant quickly and therefore, my son was less wanted 🤷🏻‍♀️

i understand fertility struggles, IVF etc add a whole new layer of stress and hope - but this doesn’t make my naturally conceived baby, loved or wanted any less.

Strawberrryfields · 04/01/2026 22:15

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 04/01/2026 21:40

That was a very weird response to you - what you were saying was perfectly clear!

@Strawberrryfields - if you want to talk about empathy, spare a thought for the OP being told she does not love her child as much as this ridiculous woman loves hers. Why is that ok with you? IVF does not privilege you to be an arse to other people, as @Grammarninja was pointing out.

Weird in what way? I agree her post was perfectly clear and I disagreed with it.

I haven’t said that it was acceptable for the cousin to say that to the op. In fact, I didn’t mention them at all.

My comment referred to Grammarninja being dismissive about other people’s experience of ivf because it was different to her own.

Grammarninja · 04/01/2026 22:33

Strawberrryfields · 04/01/2026 22:07

Yes it was a really dismissive comment. I’ve also been private about my ‘journey’ as that’s also my preference but I know for others it helps them to talk about it or some want to remove the stigma etc. Great for them, not for me.
It’s unfair to dismiss that as attention seeking/ enjoying the drama just because they’re managing it differently to you. Some people find ivf hard and if they find it easier to manage through being open about it then they should do just that. Why suffer in silence?

I said 'some' people. Not everyone, just some.

Username348 · 05/01/2026 18:08

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 02/01/2026 22:36

I have one that I never thought would happen and then one that just popped out (though I promise it's never without a care in the world - there's no very easy way to make and birth a new human!). The experiences were very different, and are still with me, but they are both extra special miracles, like every other baby in the world. I actually felt a much more immediate and classic 'surge' of love for DS2, perhaps because the journey there, and my feelings at the point of birth, were so much less complicated. With DS1 I would describe it more as disbelief as I held him and I immediately worried whether he was ok. With DS2 I immediately knew he was perfect and everything about it felt completely and utterly blissfully right. But that made not a jot of difference to my love for them ultimately.

Gosh, just got tears in my eyes as your post, it reminded me of the shear relief when my rainbow was born. Until I hear her first cry I thought something would happen to take her away. I just didn’t believe we would bring a baby home.

blacksax · 05/01/2026 18:20

ForCraftyWriter · 02/01/2026 17:58

But you can never understand how she feels can you as you haven’t had that experience

That's as maybe, but it is downright rude to go around telling other people that they can't possibly love their children as much as you love yours, and even more rude to keep banging on ad infinitum about how much more special your child is compared with theirs.

You might very well think it, but some things are far better left unsaid.

SoftBalletShoes · 05/01/2026 18:25

TomatoSandwiches · 02/01/2026 18:01

If she's still like this when her little darling is 3 and destroying people's sandcastles at the beach you can whip out the old Monty Python line.

What's that? Not everyone gets the reference.

nomas · 05/01/2026 18:27

What a twat she is. Can you distance yourself?

Tryingmybest12 · 05/01/2026 18:27

Everyone experiences things differently. This was obviously a really big deal for her. It won't hurt or disadvantage you to agree and support her. There may come a time when you feel something deeply, and will will welcome their kind words and support in return.

Minjou · 05/01/2026 18:35

Tryingmybest12 · 05/01/2026 18:27

Everyone experiences things differently. This was obviously a really big deal for her. It won't hurt or disadvantage you to agree and support her. There may come a time when you feel something deeply, and will will welcome their kind words and support in return.

Agree with her that her child is more special and more beloved, and support her in such delusions?

How Bout fuck that.

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 05/01/2026 18:46

Strawberrryfields · 04/01/2026 22:15

Weird in what way? I agree her post was perfectly clear and I disagreed with it.

I haven’t said that it was acceptable for the cousin to say that to the op. In fact, I didn’t mention them at all.

My comment referred to Grammarninja being dismissive about other people’s experience of ivf because it was different to her own.

It was weird to focus on that rather than the OP and indicated you did not get what @Grammarninja was responding to or saying.

Elektra1 · 05/01/2026 19:13

Each of us can only know how we feel, not how anyone else feels.

I think if I had a friend who was intent on telling me how much more she loved her child than I loved mine, I’d probably think that perhaps she might be struggling with depression, or feelings of being unfulfilled by motherhood (perfectly valid feeling), and the gushiness was her way of trying to mask a sense of shame over having those feelings.

Strawberrryfields · 05/01/2026 19:19

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 05/01/2026 18:46

It was weird to focus on that rather than the OP and indicated you did not get what @Grammarninja was responding to or saying.

I’d already responded to the OP directly.

I understood Grammarninja just fine. I focused on the part of her post that was dismissive and unkind, because I couldn’t scroll past a post like that without saying something. Agreeing with/ supporting the OP doesn’t justify belittling other people’s IVF experiences. She could’ve got her point across without resorting to nastiness.

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 00:58

Puffalicious · 02/01/2026 18:21

Absolutely. I love my sister, and after 23 years of it I'm used to it, but when I look back I realise how bad she was. We shall never mention that my eldest DC did a little better than her DD in A levels 🙄

Oh god! 😆

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 00:59

Haven't RTFT, but I don't need to in order to know that no one has ever loved their baby as much as I love my Care Bear. 😆

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 01:02

BeforeSigourneyWeaverTheyWoveTheirOwnSigourneys · 02/01/2026 18:21

The main thing you can do for your baby?

🤣🤣 tell her she's clearly a shit parent if she thinks it begins and ends at the birth part.

Not that major abdominal surgery is a walk in the park anyway.

Ffs, people speak shit sometimes. Just ignore her and good luck 💐

I read a great phrase once, aimed at putting weddings and births into perspective:

"The wedding is not the marriage, and the childbirth is not the family."

I feel as if that phrase should be better known, for all our sakes!

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 01:09

Neverthoughtiwould · 02/01/2026 18:28

Not quite the same I know, but I lost my son last year and more than one woman has since told me that ‘ I couldn’t carry on if my child died’. It feels like I’m being told that I didn’t love my child as much as they love theirs because I am still here.

Oh, that is TERRIBLE. I am so, so sorry. ☹️💐💐💐

GaIadriel · 06/01/2026 01:12

ForCraftyWriter · 02/01/2026 17:58

But you can never understand how she feels can you as you haven’t had that experience

And vice versa.

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 01:30

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2026 19:18

Some mothers are a bit competitive that way.

My mother has a cousin who gave birth to her daughter on the same day that I was born...

There was always a bit of snark and competitiveness from the other mother - which I was aware of to an extent. As I got older, I became more aware of it, but was a bit bemused as to why my mother seemed to resent her cousin so much.
(She was perfectly polite to the woman to her face, but I could tell.)

My second cousin and I finished up at the same secondary school and I became aware that her attitude towards me was rather patronising, to say the least. You had to be there, but there was a lot of sniggering.

One day, she looked at me and giggled: "You know, Weary, people would never think that we were cousins!" In the end, I mentioned this to my mother.

"Humph! And what did she mean by that?"

"I'm not sure. I think because she's prettier than me because she's blonde and I'm not?"

"Humph! It's out of a bottle, the same as her mother's blonde hair!"

I really was bewildered. Mum then told me that when we were both at primary school - different schools - she had bumped into her cousin. Her cousin started going on about her daughter's achievements. Normal enough.

Then: "Plus my daughter is top of her class for arithmetic!"

My mum: "That's good. Weary's top of the class for arithmetic and English."

Pause. Mum's cousin: "Well! They do say that children of mixed blood do well at school!" [Dad was a wartime Displaced Person.]

I'll add that the other girl mellowed with age. Her mother - not so much.

Ugh, I also had Competitive Cousin. Competitive over our weddings, and although she didn't get the chance to be competitive over kids since I ended up not having them, I know she would have been. She turned out to be the sort who was very competitive about pain relief in labour and about breastfeeding, being really performative about it all. She was a much, much better mother than those who had pain relief and those who bottle-fed, you see. 🤮 I was planning to boast to her about how I rawdogged a C-section! 🤣🤣🤣

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 01:35

My late parents had friends whose only child was "their little miracle." Said miracle was indulged by her parents, as her dad admitted, and is now 40. Treats her parents like absolute shit and has done for years.

Some parents get over it, some don't, and those who don't are making a rod for their own backs.

SoftBalletShoes · 06/01/2026 01:46

raabbgghhrbb123 · 02/01/2026 20:00

I can relate because my daughter is a rainbow baby and arrived after my son died so I would like to think she's loved more because of this. Would I tell everyone no I wouldn't. That's the issue, not how she's feeling, it's the fact she tells you constantly.

How awful for you. ☹️ I'm sorry 💐💐💐