To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?

[Twiglets1]

Reported in The Telegraph today that Sir Keir Starmer has welcomed an alleged Islamist extremist, who labelled British people “dogs and monkeys” and called for Zionists to be killed, into the UK.

The Prime Minister said he was “delighted” that Alaa Abd el-Fattah had arrived from Egypt on Friday evening after a travel ban imposed by Cairo was lifted following lobbying by ministers.

Mr Abd el-Fattah, an activist with dual British-Egyptian citizenship, previously said that it was heroic to kill Zionists “including civilians”. He urged Londoners to burn Downing Street, told his supporters to kill police and said he hated white people.

Ministers are facing calls to revoke his British citizenship, which he was granted in 2021 while imprisoned in Egypt, where campaigners described him as a “prisoner of conscience”.

Sir Keir’s tweet yesterday said how “delighted” he was that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in this country. Does that seem a reasonable stance to take for someone who has claimed at the same time to be committed to "eradicating antisemitism in the UK"?

No, there are different kinds of racists. Not all should be treated with the same disdain. Think we saw all of this on the latest antisemitism and Oxford tosser hate thread. Excuses excuses.

So all politicians are inept. Now back to the dangerous racist extremist.

@Twiglets1 do you have a share token for the Telegraph article, please?

The tweets appear to be genuine as have been reported in reputable sources.

Why any MPs have expressed support for him in the past or whether they knew about his more extreme posts - for example that “there was no genocide against Jews by the Nazis" - I cannot say.

I don't understand the question - sorry.

Well at least we can expect this extremist to be arrested when he shows he hasn't changed his spots.

So start a thread on TR/SYL, given your first statement rather renders your input having any validity, eh? 🙄

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/9622550ab4bac54e hopefully that works, it includes the quotes mentioned by the OP and some others, such as wanting to join Bin Laden and kill Americans

Sorry, I assume that the Telegraph article is only available to subscribers. But subscribers can use a share token to allow non subscribers access to a particular article.

Thank you for posting this.

Id never heard of this man, until ive seen your post. Ive just read an article about him on the BBC news website, they didnt write about the things you have mentioned. He also has the support from celebrities, so are we talking about the same man? He is being described as a pro-democratic activist by the BBC, can we have some links please.

@ErroltheSwampDragon thank you!

I was clearly pointing out that we all no doubt think that does bizarre and highly questionable things at times. You aren’t happy at his position on this particular guy, I was fucking horrified at him welcoming the Israeli president - part of an extremist regime. Guess it depends on our individual definitions of “extremist” doesn’t it?

See above @ErroltheSwampDragon has kindly gifted the article.

Here's hoping he will get his wish to join Bin Laden. Rather that than more innocent people being murdered.

You're welcome to start your own thread Missy if you wish to create an AIBU on the Israeli president, this one is about Alaa Abd el-Fattah.

I think what the Prime Minister was saying was that he welcomed the return of this man, who holds British citizenship through his mother, I think, because there has been a concerted campaign by many human rights organisations to obtain his release.

He was apparently imprisoned for publicising what he described as the torture of a dying prisoner and has been outspoken for years about about police brutality and what he describes as state repression in Egypt. He has been reported on many websites to be a pro democracy campaigner.

As far as I can tell, the previous government also campaigned for his pardon and release.

Robert Jenrick says he has endorsed the killing of Zionists. Politics is a complicated business.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8e3kqkyq2o

I hadn't realised Netanyahu was a threat to British people, on British soil.

I guess one man's freedom fighter is another person's extremist who openly hates white people and talks about wishing to kill the police and "a few Americans".

I think as PM it is part of Starmer's job to make good judgement calls about sensitive issues and this was not a good judgement call imo.

Hard to know why the misspelling of names and calling racists filthy, are more important than the danger extremists pose.

This is the oddest story.

Okams razor would suggest incompetence most likely reason for him being admitted.

it’s a PR nightmare. And an actual nightmare thinking about it. If you are a woman, gay, white or Jewish.

I have read the article now. Those tweets are absolutely disgusting. I find it hard to believe Starmer was aware of them when he made his own tweet this morning.

He’s a member of the Muslim brotherhood. The Egyptian government imprisoned him as they know exactly what that means and what his intentions are. Idiot westerners like KS and his ilk don’t, so classified him as a prisoner of conscience. Muslim countries understand well the dangers posed by the Muslim brotherhood and other Islamists. They don’t want to end up like Afghanistan or Iran. Western idiots don’t which is why we end up importing extremists like this man. Apparently it’s worth it to feel like we are not racist. All Muslims are good Muslims, right?. Let’s not distinguish between them 🙄

I thought MN was some place for women to get some help with some kind of creepy men in their lifel

Trump and Farage seem to have taken it over,

It's absolutely terrible that the British government is welcoming Islamic extremists, but sadly hardly shocking given their history.

As a wider point we need to stop allowing people into the country who are a danger to British people, and especially to Jews and women.