To think that Kier Starmer shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain?

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Reported in The Telegraph today that Sir Keir Starmer has welcomed an alleged Islamist extremist, who labelled British people “dogs and monkeys” and called for Zionists to be killed, into the UK.

The Prime Minister said he was “delighted” that Alaa Abd el-Fattah had arrived from Egypt on Friday evening after a travel ban imposed by Cairo was lifted following lobbying by ministers.

Mr Abd el-Fattah, an activist with dual British-Egyptian citizenship, previously said that it was heroic to kill Zionists “including civilians”. He urged Londoners to burn Downing Street, told his supporters to kill police and said he hated white people.

Ministers are facing calls to revoke his British citizenship, which he was granted in 2021 while imprisoned in Egypt, where campaigners described him as a “prisoner of conscience”.

Sir Keir’s tweet yesterday said how “delighted” he was that Alaa Abd El-Fattah is back in this country. Does that seem a reasonable stance to take for someone who has claimed at the same time to be committed to "eradicating antisemitism in the UK"?

Very true.

Newspaper headlines said he was "handed £240000" (the figure varies) but the article said this was the estimated cost of the legal process.

It is right that there is a process for justice and that costs money. Sometimes it's for the Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough, or for the post office accounting scandal. And sometimes for people we have no sympathy for.

I assume the rules for deciding that this process should go ahead have been in place for a number of years.

Fair enough. What a ridiculous waste of public money.

I've no idea if £240,000 was a lot for this type of case or not.

There would have to be a change of law to somehow stop the wrong people getting permission to go to court without taking the same rights away from the good guys.

If £240k is par for the course, we need to change some things. We cannot afford this.

Is this Fuad Awale?
If so, you were right to say that he did receive compensation.
He received £7.5K of the settlement.
https://news.sky.com/story/double-murderer-awarded-7-500-compensation-over-human-rights-breaches-13489562

@Alexandra2001 ahhh cute you’ve forgotten. I got that word from your very own labour ‘economist’ Rachel Reeves.

Reeves used the word ‘bleat’ or ‘bleating’ in the HoC before Xmas.

I had to look it up as I’d only ever heard it wrt lambs and sheep. Funny ol world ain it.

Another ECHR gift to the people.

Good old European Human Rights. It's making a mockery of all of us. It's all very well saying we should keep it but how many times do the normal general public need recourse to it rather than the same lowlife foreign criminals?

Good point.
I'm on the fence with the leaving the ECHR debate. Whatever is necessary to stop the batshittery gets my vote. I mean £240K, £7.5 of which went in this murdering POS's bank account! If we have to leave and write our own to stop it, then so be it.

My former barrister cousin tells me that its up to the courts to interpret art 8 and apply a balance test ie is it in the public interest, taking into account case law.

So seems a v odd decision, this guy is in prison after all....

Jenrick does pee me off though, constantly keeps forgetting he was Govt and the case was bought under his administration.

ECHR is also written into UK law.

HR law protects all of us, inc the ECHR but it does need modernisation.

Agree with everything you've said. 👍

This thread is almost finished so I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for contributing to an interesting discussion & generally debating politely.

I accept that my OP should have said something like AIBU to think that the British government shouldn't be welcoming extremists into Britain. To acknowledge the fact that while Keir Starmer's statement annoyed me, the previous Conservative government was equally responsible for this man with his extremist views coming to Britain.

Speaking to the BBC's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg programme today, Sir Keir again called the posts "abhorrent" and said he "should have been made aware and I wasn't".

He has launched a review into what he called a "failing in the system".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgpelnlxzyo

What! Another review (along with Yvette Cooper's)? I wish I had some faith in that achieving anything.

I must admit I did sigh a bit myself at the word "review". Probably a good idea in this case though, as long as it is done quickly & not something that drags on for months/years and as long as the recommendations are followed.

The government is always "reviewing" but never actually DOING.