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Mum says Christmas was too much for her and I forget she’s getting older

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MyQuirkyFinch · 26/12/2025 10:24

We don’t have any family on my DH’s side so each year my mum stays with us. There’s me and DH plus 2DCs 7 and 3.
This year the couple next door came for lunch and stayed for the afternoon. They are some of our best friends and my mum knows them well and likes them.
We had a low key day by a lot of people’s standards. DH and I did all the cooking and got up early with the kids to open stockings etc. Our friends helped a lot with tidying up/entertaining the kids (as did my mum). Friends also brought puddings and cheese so we didn’t have to worry about that.
When we weren’t eating we played some games - dominoes, charades etc. Largely to entertain the kids we did a little talent show DC3 made us laugh with her elaborate dance to Frozen. Nobody had to join in anything they didn’t want to, I don’t believe in forced fun!

Everything passed without a hitch and everyone seemed to have fun. Kids were good and opened their presents in stages so didn’t get too hyper and sat nicely at the table to eat their lunch.

My mum went up to bed shortly after the kids so had an early night.

This morning she has blind sided me by saying it was all too much for her. She’s too old for a day like that and we need to be more understanding of her advancing years. She is 75 with no health conditions. I genuinely didn’t expect her to do anything other than sit on my house, eat and drink and play the odd card game with the kids.

Thinking about how I can scale it back next year but not sure how…. Any ideas?!

OP posts:
ThisElatedShark · 28/12/2025 11:14

Bimmering · 28/12/2025 11:12

But this isn't what the mum did

She didn't say "this was too much for me, next year I might go upstairs for a rest after lunch" she said "it was too much for me and you, OP, need to fix that for me" The OP is now talking about sending her kids to their rooms to manage her mum's feelings

Yes. And I said in my first response that that’s mad.

ThisElatedShark · 28/12/2025 11:14

AgapanthusPink · 28/12/2025 11:12

Yes and the logical solution would be that grandma goes to lay down or goes elsewhere if it’s all too much or doesn’t come at all. Not the OP’s bizarre solution that we step back to the Victorian ages where the children are seen and not heard?

Exactly. That’s what I said.

SamVan · 28/12/2025 11:15

I would just tell her to opt out of whatever she doesn’t like or come for a shorter period. Certainly wouldn’t change anything for her if everyone else had a good time.

GalaxyJam · 28/12/2025 11:15

ThisElatedShark · 28/12/2025 11:14

Exactly. That’s what I said.

And that’s the option she had on the day, but chose not to take. So why the attempted guilt trip to the one person who has tried her best to accommodate/host/feed/make comfortable her guest?

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 11:17

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 28/12/2025 08:51

Is baffling, but those posters are all coming from the “0h your poor poor mum.. it must have been soo awful for her!” 🫥

It is still poor mum even though she has her own room and lots of space doesn't have to cook or help or look after DGC.

This is despite having drunken horrible Christmases when OP was young.

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 11:21

Meg8 · 28/12/2025 09:03

I am surprised (or not?) at the many callous and sarcastic comments on here abt OPs DM and how she is "trying to make it all about her" and how selfish etc she is. People of her age (MY age!) all have different life experiences (developed over a lifetime, not a few years) and how they behaved when the same age as the OP was a different era altogether. For many, the adage "children should be seen and not heard" was something that many believed in and it often was the norm. Women typically did what their DHs insisted upon and had to puit up with it or life could be very miserable. And yes, loads of alcohol was also the norm.

But here she is at 75, widowed for 20 years, and luckjy enough to have a loving DD (and she IS VERY loving) and clearly she doesn't see that the children are any more important than anyone else, including her.

The remarks made that 75 isn't old ignore the fact that every 75-year-old is different. While I am (in appearance) fit and well I am losing my stamina, and have never been a great lover of party games. Meanwhile my DH is a semi-invalid and is unable to join in things as he used to.The other GPs are a few years younger than us and absolute party-people which we are not, but only six months ago the grandpa suffered a major heart attack and his physical cababilities are much reduced. Both Grandpas deserve some consideration from family and friends - though none of us would say or imply that we were more important than the GC or anyone else.

Ill health, declining physical (or mental) abilities or just plain wearing out of bodies will come to most of you younger folks, at different times. I have friends in their 90s who still go mountain-walking and friends in their 60s who cannot go far at all. For the latter, the strain of everyday living can reduce their ability to manage life as they used to, and they are often in pain which is not a visible condition.

So let's please cut the OP's mother some slack - one day some of you might be in a similar (or worse) condition and believe me will also expect to be given some consideration at Christmas. And probably deserve that, whatever you think about their past lives (that were likely considered normal to them).

That all said, NONE of us GPs would want any special fuss at family gatherings, but the quiet room might be a good idea for OPs mum. OTOH it might be just that - an idea - and she might be too embarassed to actually use it! I know I would. Actually, I might be upset that I was so lacking in stamina that I needed such a room. Although party games are not my scene I hate to stand out as different.

OP, you are a wonderful DD to be so concerned and considerate to your mum. Of course the children's day is paramount whatever your DM feels, but she is worth a bit of consideration as well. Everyone is. But no, you must NOT alter the day for your children. They deserve to be a major part of the fun and love.

I do find it a bit odd that the neighbours were invited cos I'm not the best at small talk.

My GC are nearly 14 and 12 now. I'm thrilled that we can join in their day and can see they are equally thrilled that we are there. I wouldn't change it for the world despite our personal problems. It was a very loving atmosphere and that means it all to me.

Sorry for the long post, but those who think they are going to be 100% fit and well in later years might have a shock coming to them. I hope not. At least I hope they don't get cast onto the scrap heap as not important to their families.

Very few people are saying that older people do not deserve consideration or that illness, ageing, pain or declining stamina are not real. Most adults understand that ageing is uneven, often invisible and frequently difficult. That is not the dispute.

The real issue is whose needs take priority, and where the line is between consideration and centring.

Acknowledging that OP’s mother is 75, widowed, tired or shaped by a different generation does not automatically mean her emotional comfort should outrank the children’s experience at a family Christmas. The gathering exists mostly for the children, who are young, dependent and still forming their sense of belonging and joy within the family.

Saying that she does not see the children as any more important than anyone else is not a defence. Children are not simply smaller adults. Their needs are not equal to those of a grown person who has autonomy, life experience and coping strategies, regardless of age. Treating all needs as equal ignores power and dependency.

Historical context can explain behaviour, but it does not excuse it.

Yes, many people grew up in a time when children were expected to be quiet, women deferred to their husbands and alcohol smoothed over discomfort. That background may explain OP’s mother’s worldview but it does not entitle her to have it upheld at the expense of the next generation. Every generation has norms that later prove harmful or limiting. Growth means not insisting those norms be protected forever.

There is also an emotional move in this comment that needs to be named. It relies on anticipatory guilt.

You will be old one day. You will want consideration too. Do not cast people onto the scrap heap.

This is not an argument. It is a warning meant to discourage boundary setting by framing it as cruelty. Wanting Christmas to be joyful and centred on children is not discarding an older relative. It is recognising the purpose of the day and the developmental reality of children.

Consideration does not mean control.

Offering a quiet room is reasonable. Adjusting expectations with compassion is reasonable. Expecting the entire emotional tone of the day to bend around one adult’s discomfort is not.

Calling OP a wonderful daughter while still implying she should absorb her mother’s unhappiness is part of the very dynamic many people are trying to step away from. Being loving does not require self erasure. Being considerate does not require prioritising adult fragility over children’s joy.

It is possible to honour ageing parents without recentring them. It is possible to be compassionate without shrinking children. It s possible to acknowledge the realities of ageing without treating boundaries as abandonment.

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 11:24

DramaQueenlady · 28/12/2025 09:44

This is what's rude. Her mum is trying to conva how she feels. She's 75 for god sake. Elderly lady just saying how she feel and needs to be listened to and given some support!

The elderly lady found the DC too much. That is what she has indicated. She prefers the adult only Christmases before the DC came along. What kind of support would help? Throw out the DC?

The elderly lady already has a floor of a house all to herself where she can retire at any time while all the cooking and hosting is done by the OP.

Anonymouseposter · 28/12/2025 11:38

I realise that as people age their health needs vary and some have problems earlier than others but it shocks me to think that someone in their mid 70s might get tetchy without a nap ( unless really ill) . It sounds like a three year old. Anyway OP’s mother didn’t surface until mid day.

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 11:39

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 11:24

The elderly lady found the DC too much. That is what she has indicated. She prefers the adult only Christmases before the DC came along. What kind of support would help? Throw out the DC?

The elderly lady already has a floor of a house all to herself where she can retire at any time while all the cooking and hosting is done by the OP.

Someone has already suggested that to the OP, get the kids out

No doubt that is exactly what she will do now. Poor kids.

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 11:41

Anonymouseposter · 28/12/2025 11:38

I realise that as people age their health needs vary and some have problems earlier than others but it shocks me to think that someone in their mid 70s might get tetchy without a nap ( unless really ill) . It sounds like a three year old. Anyway OP’s mother didn’t surface until mid day.

On mumsnet even teenagers can't cope with children for anything more than a short period. And that's before you've put in the STRANGERS. And the home made Last Night of the Proms bonanza.

It's a wonder OPs mum actually lived through it to be honest.

Skybluepinky · 28/12/2025 11:48

Sounds like she just wanted a quote time with family but your house was a circus.

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 11:49

JFC.
What an absolute dick of a comment. What is wrong with you?

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 11:51

Skybluepinky · 28/12/2025 11:48

Sounds like she just wanted a quote time with family but your house was a circus.

Maybe she could throw out DC to make it a quiet family time for the DM?

DM's own Christmases were like Eastenders according to OP which sound a lot louder than a circus.

Washingupdone · 28/12/2025 11:51

My dad died almost 20 years ago and I have cared for my mum since then. It’s become much harder to do that since I had the children and I find it difficult to navigate.

Speaking as a 75 year old. This is the problem, many women relied on their partners, they dropped out of driving, managing the accounts, computers etc, because the man took care/control of these matters especially if they were a sahm. Their partners dies and they have no idea how to manage so turn to their children for help like a crutch. Some have a small world and haven’t moved on.

As I said previously, do not feel guilty, you are doing a fantastic job having happy children as well as welcoming your mother. She if she feels the children are too much go to her room for a lie down.

Anonymouseposter · 28/12/2025 11:52

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 11:41

On mumsnet even teenagers can't cope with children for anything more than a short period. And that's before you've put in the STRANGERS. And the home made Last Night of the Proms bonanza.

It's a wonder OPs mum actually lived through it to be honest.

Shame the laugh emoji has gone. I’m 74. Father Christmas visited my grandchildren before 6.30 am. ( which I was woken for by the 5 year old). I played a board game and was treated to a rerun of the school Christmas concert while the parents cooked and I managed not to fall asleep until I gave up and went to bed at 9pm. I’m not super fit, I think I’m average. It’s strange that some people in their 50s feel they couldn’t cope with a fairly low key day, and yes to STRANGERS and people knocking on the door. I do feel for people with health issues and don’t want to offend anyone who is actually unwell but OPs Mum is barely doing anything. I can only think she wants OP’s constant attention .

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 11:53

Anonymouseposter · 28/12/2025 11:52

Shame the laugh emoji has gone. I’m 74. Father Christmas visited my grandchildren before 6.30 am. ( which I was woken for by the 5 year old). I played a board game and was treated to a rerun of the school Christmas concert while the parents cooked and I managed not to fall asleep until I gave up and went to bed at 9pm. I’m not super fit, I think I’m average. It’s strange that some people in their 50s feel they couldn’t cope with a fairly low key day, and yes to STRANGERS and people knocking on the door. I do feel for people with health issues and don’t want to offend anyone who is actually unwell but OPs Mum is barely doing anything. I can only think she wants OP’s constant attention .

My kids don't have any interested grandparents and this made me teary. I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and you can have a rest now :-)

bombastix · 28/12/2025 12:01

You sound nice OP. And you had provided a good Christmas for everyone.

Your mother could have exempted herself if she found it too much. Moaning about a children’s Christmas after the event is really not okay.

Next year, mother gets to stay and be quiet at home. You only get those children Christmas’s for a while. Keep at it.

Catsquid · 28/12/2025 12:05

I think you need to ask her exactly what was full on about it. Make sure she feels able to go and take time out in her room or another room if she needs it.
You have young children so they are the priority, Christmas is about them!
I think your mum needs to take responsibility. If it’s too much for her she can stay home, go to a friend’s, visit for dinner and not stay over. You can’t bend everything for her. There may be tweaks like food prepping the day before so that you aren’t cooking all day and leaving your mum with the kids. Or get pre-made options from the supermarket. You did say the neighbours even brought dessert.
Christmas is full on! It’s a lot of prep and a lot happens in one day. It’s tiring. Everyone needs to manage that for themselves and compromise.
It sounds like she is also forgetting how old your children are! She isn’t thinking about all the prep and organising that you will be doing. All about her. What does she actually expect?

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 12:15

Catsquid · 28/12/2025 12:05

I think you need to ask her exactly what was full on about it. Make sure she feels able to go and take time out in her room or another room if she needs it.
You have young children so they are the priority, Christmas is about them!
I think your mum needs to take responsibility. If it’s too much for her she can stay home, go to a friend’s, visit for dinner and not stay over. You can’t bend everything for her. There may be tweaks like food prepping the day before so that you aren’t cooking all day and leaving your mum with the kids. Or get pre-made options from the supermarket. You did say the neighbours even brought dessert.
Christmas is full on! It’s a lot of prep and a lot happens in one day. It’s tiring. Everyone needs to manage that for themselves and compromise.
It sounds like she is also forgetting how old your children are! She isn’t thinking about all the prep and organising that you will be doing. All about her. What does she actually expect?

There may be tweaks like food prepping the day before so that you aren’t cooking all day and leaving your mum with the kids.

She wasn't left with the kids. The friends entertained DC while OP and DH cooked.

Vivi0 · 28/12/2025 12:16

ThisElatedShark · 28/12/2025 10:52

Not sure that’s quite what OP said - I read that the neighbours AND her Mum all entertained the kids, and that everyone played games, but no one had to. Yes, maybe her Mum should have turned down the games, but most of us do try to be sociable and friendly, so easier said than done.

I won’t list all of the many things I find relaxing, but a full day with children - without any time to myself/only with adults - definitely isn’t one of them. I lived with my parents (as a teenager) when my nieces were young. My parents were only in their late 40s, and all 3 of us loved spending (some!) time with my lovely nieces. But all 3 of us would also breathe a huge exhausted sigh when they went home. I’m sure it’s completely different when they’re your own or when you’re used to it daily, of course!

I lived with my parents (as a teenager) when my nieces were young. My parents were only in their late 40s, and all 3 of us loved spending (some!) time with my lovely nieces. But all 3 of us would also breathe a huge exhausted sigh when they went home.

A “big exhausted sigh”? After spending a few hours with your nieces on Christmas Day as a teenager?

Dramatic much 😂

Smudgesmith · 28/12/2025 12:18

My mum is 75, has a hearing aid and we met at my brother's house for 11am and stayed until 4pm. That was with 3 kids and a dog, absolute chaos. She loved it. She then went home for 1.5 hours for some peace and came to us for the evening with more presents, cake and a film...your christmas sounds reasonable and I'm not sure how you'd make it more about her when you have young kids. Yes, the neighbours maybe made her feel less able to relax (as not family) but assume she could have gone upstairs for a lie down/chill time. Some people complain but dont do anything about it at the time, eg have a cold meal out but dont send it back and then complain lots after. If you can't break up the day due to her living further away then maybe she could come later? Or have your friends over just for drinks? Or just food and a drink and then have a more chilled late afternoon? Realistically the kids will generally only get more on it for the next few years until they are teens and on their phones but they sounded like they were great to me as someone with a 6 year old!

Umbilicat · 28/12/2025 12:24

It breaks my heart that you’re feeling shit about this,, OP

Normally I think on MN people are far too quick to judge old people. But yours is either a piece of work OR you are being far too sensitive about the fact she didn’t love everything about her day. Your dc should be allowed to enjoy Christmas - sending them to their rooms is just Victorian! Your munhaa a perfectly good room to go to - she can bow out.

QuaintMauveCrow · 28/12/2025 12:28

u3ername · 27/12/2025 22:54

The responses are insane.
Op sounds vulnerable, saying she feels guilty and planning to strip back her already small celebration and send her dc to their rooms next Christmas.

This is because of the insane responses.
Please read all posts before replying or don't reply at all.
Mumsnet is actually about to ruin these poor kids’ next Christmas.

That’s exactly what I was meaning? The responses suggesting that op needs to cater to her mothers wants instead of embracing the lovely environment she created for her children’s Christmas are crazy!

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 12:31

Umbilicat · 28/12/2025 12:24

It breaks my heart that you’re feeling shit about this,, OP

Normally I think on MN people are far too quick to judge old people. But yours is either a piece of work OR you are being far too sensitive about the fact she didn’t love everything about her day. Your dc should be allowed to enjoy Christmas - sending them to their rooms is just Victorian! Your munhaa a perfectly good room to go to - she can bow out.

I've been thinking about this and actually it's MN ageism at is finest isn't it?

"If you're over 65 you probably need a nap every two hours."

AgreeToDisagreeSometimes · 28/12/2025 12:35

MyQuirkyFinch · 26/12/2025 23:26

So many people on this thread have said my day sounds too much/a bit cringe/my kids must be annoying/a 75 yr old wouldn’t cope. It’s hard not to take that on board. My mum is mum when all said and done! I haven’t reflected that I haven’t spent enough 121 time with her these few days, that is a valid point.

I voted YANBU as I thought your day was so low key, it cannot get any lower for the sake of your children’s childhood memories. Your childhood Christmases did not sound great but why make it less exciting for your children?
my MIL is in her 80’s and she stayed with us for a few days as she lives miles away.
she was up at 9am to open presents with the children (they waited for her to wake up first since being up much earlier), she pottered around all day - she kept asking if I needed help around the kitchen. I told her to keep her feet up, drink and eat whatever she liked. Put her tv shows/films on.

The children decorated gingerbread houses, opened and played with all their gifts including some that needed baking help. I supervised their baking and decorating whilst preparing a dinner for 15 people who were arriving from 1pm and left after midnight. guests helped out as and when they arrived.

we did secret Santa, karaoke, quizzes and games with 40 prizes for the winners (Everyone came away with prizes as there were so many games played )

so it was chaos but MIL chose to stay up until midnight and yes it was exhausting for her but she could go to another room, she watched TV, we didn’t ask her to help supervise (but she made her own tea) whilst everything was happening around her. She chose to join in or sit out. The key is to keep everyone happy, not just one person.

Your children are only young for a short amount of time - create a Christmas for them that you would have liked as a child . I feel so sorry for your children if you pander to her.

maybe I try too hard but at the end of the day, I want my young children to remember and be excited about Christmas. If I was in your shoes, I would tell your mum that she’s had 70-odd Christmas memories, I want my children to remember the Christmas of the first few years of their lives to be full of excitement, and a time when they could play games, dress up, sing and dance as much as they wanted. Also have a house full of people!

it sounds like if your neighbours didn’t come round to help entertain the children, the day would have been even more exhausting as the children would have constantly been bothering her.

Can you not see she is being unreasonable by wanting a child free Christmas in your house? she can have one by not joining in with anything and sitting in her own room all day.
you need to look after your young family and not carry forward the negative attitude to the next generation

I would carry on with what you did on Christmas but accommodate her needs by making sure there are quiet spaces to relax and escape