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Mum says Christmas was too much for her and I forget she’s getting older

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MyQuirkyFinch · 26/12/2025 10:24

We don’t have any family on my DH’s side so each year my mum stays with us. There’s me and DH plus 2DCs 7 and 3.
This year the couple next door came for lunch and stayed for the afternoon. They are some of our best friends and my mum knows them well and likes them.
We had a low key day by a lot of people’s standards. DH and I did all the cooking and got up early with the kids to open stockings etc. Our friends helped a lot with tidying up/entertaining the kids (as did my mum). Friends also brought puddings and cheese so we didn’t have to worry about that.
When we weren’t eating we played some games - dominoes, charades etc. Largely to entertain the kids we did a little talent show DC3 made us laugh with her elaborate dance to Frozen. Nobody had to join in anything they didn’t want to, I don’t believe in forced fun!

Everything passed without a hitch and everyone seemed to have fun. Kids were good and opened their presents in stages so didn’t get too hyper and sat nicely at the table to eat their lunch.

My mum went up to bed shortly after the kids so had an early night.

This morning she has blind sided me by saying it was all too much for her. She’s too old for a day like that and we need to be more understanding of her advancing years. She is 75 with no health conditions. I genuinely didn’t expect her to do anything other than sit on my house, eat and drink and play the odd card game with the kids.

Thinking about how I can scale it back next year but not sure how…. Any ideas?!

OP posts:
GalaxyJam · 28/12/2025 08:44

Londonrach1 · 28/12/2025 07:18

It's the strangers she doesn't know I bet. I suspect she wanted a quiet family Christmas. Talking to strangers means you can't relax and it gets harder as you get older. Your mum isn't old by any means. On the fence re yabu and yanbu. Did you discuss having the friends over.

Have you even read the thread? Even just the OP’s posts?

THE NEIGHBOURS WEREN’T THE ISSUE.

Honestly I think so many MNers can’t stand the company of anyone outside of their own ‘little family’ that they can’t conceive of a world where other people are happy to spend time with friends. The OP’s mum said the neighbours weren’t the problem.

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 08:45

GalaxyJam · 27/12/2025 22:52

Why do you think the OP’s mum lied when she said it wasn’t the neighbours that were the issue?

Maybe she felt embarrassed to say the DC were annoying her.

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 08:46

GalaxyJam · 28/12/2025 08:44

Have you even read the thread? Even just the OP’s posts?

THE NEIGHBOURS WEREN’T THE ISSUE.

Honestly I think so many MNers can’t stand the company of anyone outside of their own ‘little family’ that they can’t conceive of a world where other people are happy to spend time with friends. The OP’s mum said the neighbours weren’t the problem.

I have corrected this many times too. People keep saying same thing.

PennyLaneisinmyheartandmysoul · 28/12/2025 08:51

HazelMember · 28/12/2025 08:46

I have corrected this many times too. People keep saying same thing.

Is baffling, but those posters are all coming from the “0h your poor poor mum.. it must have been soo awful for her!” 🫥

Meg8 · 28/12/2025 09:03

I am surprised (or not?) at the many callous and sarcastic comments on here abt OPs DM and how she is "trying to make it all about her" and how selfish etc she is. People of her age (MY age!) all have different life experiences (developed over a lifetime, not a few years) and how they behaved when the same age as the OP was a different era altogether. For many, the adage "children should be seen and not heard" was something that many believed in and it often was the norm. Women typically did what their DHs insisted upon and had to puit up with it or life could be very miserable. And yes, loads of alcohol was also the norm.

But here she is at 75, widowed for 20 years, and luckjy enough to have a loving DD (and she IS VERY loving) and clearly she doesn't see that the children are any more important than anyone else, including her.

The remarks made that 75 isn't old ignore the fact that every 75-year-old is different. While I am (in appearance) fit and well I am losing my stamina, and have never been a great lover of party games. Meanwhile my DH is a semi-invalid and is unable to join in things as he used to.The other GPs are a few years younger than us and absolute party-people which we are not, but only six months ago the grandpa suffered a major heart attack and his physical cababilities are much reduced. Both Grandpas deserve some consideration from family and friends - though none of us would say or imply that we were more important than the GC or anyone else.

Ill health, declining physical (or mental) abilities or just plain wearing out of bodies will come to most of you younger folks, at different times. I have friends in their 90s who still go mountain-walking and friends in their 60s who cannot go far at all. For the latter, the strain of everyday living can reduce their ability to manage life as they used to, and they are often in pain which is not a visible condition.

So let's please cut the OP's mother some slack - one day some of you might be in a similar (or worse) condition and believe me will also expect to be given some consideration at Christmas. And probably deserve that, whatever you think about their past lives (that were likely considered normal to them).

That all said, NONE of us GPs would want any special fuss at family gatherings, but the quiet room might be a good idea for OPs mum. OTOH it might be just that - an idea - and she might be too embarassed to actually use it! I know I would. Actually, I might be upset that I was so lacking in stamina that I needed such a room. Although party games are not my scene I hate to stand out as different.

OP, you are a wonderful DD to be so concerned and considerate to your mum. Of course the children's day is paramount whatever your DM feels, but she is worth a bit of consideration as well. Everyone is. But no, you must NOT alter the day for your children. They deserve to be a major part of the fun and love.

I do find it a bit odd that the neighbours were invited cos I'm not the best at small talk.

My GC are nearly 14 and 12 now. I'm thrilled that we can join in their day and can see they are equally thrilled that we are there. I wouldn't change it for the world despite our personal problems. It was a very loving atmosphere and that means it all to me.

Sorry for the long post, but those who think they are going to be 100% fit and well in later years might have a shock coming to them. I hope not. At least I hope they don't get cast onto the scrap heap as not important to their families.

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 09:12

Meg8 · 28/12/2025 09:03

I am surprised (or not?) at the many callous and sarcastic comments on here abt OPs DM and how she is "trying to make it all about her" and how selfish etc she is. People of her age (MY age!) all have different life experiences (developed over a lifetime, not a few years) and how they behaved when the same age as the OP was a different era altogether. For many, the adage "children should be seen and not heard" was something that many believed in and it often was the norm. Women typically did what their DHs insisted upon and had to puit up with it or life could be very miserable. And yes, loads of alcohol was also the norm.

But here she is at 75, widowed for 20 years, and luckjy enough to have a loving DD (and she IS VERY loving) and clearly she doesn't see that the children are any more important than anyone else, including her.

The remarks made that 75 isn't old ignore the fact that every 75-year-old is different. While I am (in appearance) fit and well I am losing my stamina, and have never been a great lover of party games. Meanwhile my DH is a semi-invalid and is unable to join in things as he used to.The other GPs are a few years younger than us and absolute party-people which we are not, but only six months ago the grandpa suffered a major heart attack and his physical cababilities are much reduced. Both Grandpas deserve some consideration from family and friends - though none of us would say or imply that we were more important than the GC or anyone else.

Ill health, declining physical (or mental) abilities or just plain wearing out of bodies will come to most of you younger folks, at different times. I have friends in their 90s who still go mountain-walking and friends in their 60s who cannot go far at all. For the latter, the strain of everyday living can reduce their ability to manage life as they used to, and they are often in pain which is not a visible condition.

So let's please cut the OP's mother some slack - one day some of you might be in a similar (or worse) condition and believe me will also expect to be given some consideration at Christmas. And probably deserve that, whatever you think about their past lives (that were likely considered normal to them).

That all said, NONE of us GPs would want any special fuss at family gatherings, but the quiet room might be a good idea for OPs mum. OTOH it might be just that - an idea - and she might be too embarassed to actually use it! I know I would. Actually, I might be upset that I was so lacking in stamina that I needed such a room. Although party games are not my scene I hate to stand out as different.

OP, you are a wonderful DD to be so concerned and considerate to your mum. Of course the children's day is paramount whatever your DM feels, but she is worth a bit of consideration as well. Everyone is. But no, you must NOT alter the day for your children. They deserve to be a major part of the fun and love.

I do find it a bit odd that the neighbours were invited cos I'm not the best at small talk.

My GC are nearly 14 and 12 now. I'm thrilled that we can join in their day and can see they are equally thrilled that we are there. I wouldn't change it for the world despite our personal problems. It was a very loving atmosphere and that means it all to me.

Sorry for the long post, but those who think they are going to be 100% fit and well in later years might have a shock coming to them. I hope not. At least I hope they don't get cast onto the scrap heap as not important to their families.

I don't think anyone is arguing that OPs mum should be all over Christmas with grandchildren.

The point is she has a whole floor of a house to retire to at any point she wishes.ehe clearly wasn't embarrassed to use it as she didn't emerge til 12. The christmasses she gave OP as a child were adult centric and shit for OP. OP was clearly very anxious to make this quiet for her mother.

The mother knew the plan, she knew who was coming, and she hasn't done anything to help herself

OPs takeaway from this thread is to make her Christmas even quieter for her kids. I think the OP has given more than enough consideration for her mother and an awful lot of this sounds like the mother could be very well manipulative and controlling.

Holluschickie · 28/12/2025 09:13

Goodness this is still going. OP, I really think you are overthinking. Your mum is being unreasonable to not tolerate her own grandkids or leave for a lie down..Offer a liedown next year. Don't send your kids into another room.
Leave it at that!

Meg8 · 28/12/2025 09:21

Oh, I am definitely not suggesting that OP is doing anything wrong at all and sorry if it came out that way. Of course her DM is no more important than anyone else and in fact I believe the (very young, not teenagers even) DCs deserve prime consideration. I was just incensed by the many comments from other posters that implied that DGM was almost to be ignored - but mainly the comments that at her age she shouldn't need or expect any particular consideration at all. There were loads of posters who seemed to assume that all 75-year-olds are fit and well - and they are not!

Anonymouseposter · 28/12/2025 09:28

I really wouldn’t change anything for future Christmasses to accommodate your mother. I think she’s being a bit attention seeking and I wouldn’t give her comment much attention. I would just tell her that she’s welcome to take a break in her room anytime she wants to. Next year I would invite her but remind her that she said she found it too much last year and you’ll understand if she wants to give it a miss. The generalisations about boomers are just stereotyping . I’m 74 so my friends are boomers and many work colleagues etc were of the same generation. There were many different personalities just as there are now and I don’t know what statistical evidence shows a greater propensity to selfishness. Perhaps someone could cite a study. Your children deserve to have fun at Christmas, put on a concert, play games and do whatever they enjoy.

sittingonabeach · 28/12/2025 09:32

My DMIL was fit and healthy at 70. A few years later her health and stamina has started to deteriorate, not horrendously but she has certainly changed, so we are having to make changes (small for now) when she visits.

Having a large space to herself should be enough for OP’s DM and the DC can carry on in the way they did this Christmas. Won’t be many years before they are hiding in their bedrooms or preferring being with their mates. OP enjoy these Christmases whilst they are young.

Disenchantedone · 28/12/2025 09:37

Scale it back by telling her to bide at home!
Sounded like a lovely day with something for everyone!

DramaQueenlady · 28/12/2025 09:44

Radiosn · 26/12/2025 10:29

Perhaps she needs to stay at home or she could have gone for a nap if she was tired.
How rude of her.
Do not allow her to upset you after all your efforts.
Some people just have to complain.

This is what's rude. Her mum is trying to conva how she feels. She's 75 for god sake. Elderly lady just saying how she feel and needs to be listened to and given some support!

Climbinghigher · 28/12/2025 09:45

MyQuirkyFinch · 26/12/2025 23:26

So many people on this thread have said my day sounds too much/a bit cringe/my kids must be annoying/a 75 yr old wouldn’t cope. It’s hard not to take that on board. My mum is mum when all said and done! I haven’t reflected that I haven’t spent enough 121 time with her these few days, that is a valid point.

Christmas is for kids, not 75 year old miserable old gits. People have a choice as they get older - to carry on embracing life as much as their health allows them to or turn into a miserable sod. If she’s this miserable at 75 she is going to get worse and you need to set some boundaries. We don’t lose responsibility for our behaviour once we’ve over 70.

You can’t want your kids memories to be of having.to clear off out the way because otherwise grandma will have a tantrum.

Aluna · 28/12/2025 09:45

MyQuirkyFinch · 26/12/2025 18:24

Think I’ll also strip it right back next year. Tell the kids No games, talent show and the like. No other guests (although she likes them they are enthusiastic participants in games). TV on after lunch to encourage snoozing on the sofa. Send the kids to their rooms for part of the day or I could even take them to the park whilst DH cooks the lunch.

Edited

I don’t think that’s fair on your kids they deserve to have a fun Christmas not have everything muted for granny. I’d simply invite her to come on Boxing Day.

Personally I think it may have been as much the journey and staying away from home as much as the day itself.

Either way - all grannies are different - my mother was a classical musician and teacher and she always wanted to hear her grandchildren play their instruments (they all started aged 3/4) so that was just a regular part of her visits.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/12/2025 09:47

@ForTheForseeable

The absolute fear of Other People on Mumsnet is absolutely something to behold

Right? Its so fucked up that the idea of spending a couple of hours with a long known and friendly couple is considered intrusive but spending the whole day semi comatose in front of the TV is optimal. Better still with too much alcohol and an argument.

What a decadent and neurotic society we have become.

Climbinghigher · 28/12/2025 09:47

Just to add to my post - you are planning on giving her pretty much an entire self contained flat and inviting her to retire to it whenever she wants. That is more than enough for even the most elderly/unwell of people. Absolutely no need to ensure your kids have a a Victorian Christmas to keep misery chops happy

thepariscrimefiles · 28/12/2025 09:47

There are some grandparents, hopefully the minority, who instead of being delighted to have grandchildren to love and cherish, see them as competition for the attention of their sons or daughters. OP's selfish mum expects to be her daugter's main priority and seems to have a mindset of 'children should be seen but not heard'.

ForTheForseeable · 28/12/2025 09:49

DramaQueenlady · 28/12/2025 09:44

This is what's rude. Her mum is trying to conva how she feels. She's 75 for god sake. Elderly lady just saying how she feel and needs to be listened to and given some support!

How much support can she be given?
It's Christmas day. Not the Vietnam War.

Climbinghigher · 28/12/2025 09:50

thepariscrimefiles · 28/12/2025 09:47

There are some grandparents, hopefully the minority, who instead of being delighted to have grandchildren to love and cherish, see them as competition for the attention of their sons or daughters. OP's selfish mum expects to be her daugter's main priority and seems to have a mindset of 'children should be seen but not heard'.

Yes I agree.

Thepeopleversuswork · 28/12/2025 09:50

SharonBe · 27/12/2025 20:06

I'm 56 and being around people (even people I like) that long would be exhausting for me. Maybe it's an introvert/extrovert thing? What does your Mum want to do next year? Maybe if everyone else went for a walk after lunch she could have an hour to recharge? Could she stay at home and just come in time for lunch?

But if you feel like this why would you take yourself to someone else’s home for Christmas? Particularly one where there are small children?

Why is it that the desperate, obsessive need for “introverts” to shut everyone out always has to take precedence over normal social behaviour?

Chasbots · 28/12/2025 09:52

Why have you been looking after her for 20 years?

She really wasn't that old. Is there additional issues here?

Why are you bending over backwards to appease her? Sounds like you need to look at "parentification" as an issue arising from your childhood.

Tryagain26 · 28/12/2025 09:57

I think your mum is being unreasonable. Christmas with children should be noisy and busy. I'm not sure what she expects.
I am a few years younger than your mum but I hosted my family for Christmas, including grandchildren I did all the preparation, cooking etc
It was noisy, there were some tears but lots of laughter too. I expected it to be hard work. It was but I will probably do it again next year. Because thegball.emjoyed itt. (Although part of me I would love to sit on the sofa and do nothing!)
I know it sounds harsh but if your mum feels she wants a quiet Christmas perhaps she should stay at home and visit you later for a quiet meal. Don't change your plans or make the day less fun for your children

Tryagain26 · 28/12/2025 10:02

Only2daystogo · 26/12/2025 10:30

Does she live by herself? If you’re used to a quiet house then 2 children may just be too much. I would ask her in the new year what would make it easier for her. I’m thinking maybe taking the kids out for a walk, use new scooter/bike/skates/skate board while she chills at home.

But why should the children's Christmas be compromised for the mother. I'm not much younger than OP's mother and I think that is very unfair.

Only2daystogo · 28/12/2025 10:04

Tryagain26 · 28/12/2025 10:02

But why should the children's Christmas be compromised for the mother. I'm not much younger than OP's mother and I think that is very unfair.

I don’t think taking the children outside to enjoy their new wheels and get some fresh air is a hardship. For most children this would be a really good thing to do.

Goldwren1923 · 28/12/2025 10:05

Wow you were “looking after” her since she was 55?
she’s seems even more selfish and self centered now. I bet she’s just jealous that you are not running around her now that you have kids to entertain and are not serving her hand and foot.
OP please please get some therapy instead of dialling your Christmas even further back.
Read those reminding you that your children will grow up and you will never get these magical Christmases with them back