To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

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Watching above with DD17 (lesbian) and DS11 (straight) earlier today. One scene where a female presenting (long hair + fake eyelashes) but clearly biologically male actor plays a doctor (just Dr). DS says "that......lady sounds like a man".

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.

It was so distilled down to me at the point of his very innocent (and tentative so as not to offend question) that I am not prepared to lie to my kid about the fucking fundamentals of life and tell them that person is a woman. Fuck that.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Also FUCK THAT FILM 😭😭😭😭😭

I know. Shame that poster isn't a self respecting woman, still less a feminist

Thank you for the factual non emotive summary

All I can see here is a bunch of creepily obsessed people who are ruining their relationships with their children

"And also no trans people have not always existed"

I don't know what "always" means but records show existence of trans people since at least 5,000 BC. So hardly a recent development

Transvestites/crossdressers, yes. No evidence of actual transgender.

Yeah, she should definitely indoctrinate them with reactionary, bigoted bullshit, it’s so much easier than saying, “She’s a trans woman”.

Maybe have a few days off for Christmas and go back to the LGBTQ bashing on Saturday. Surely 2 days without abusing a minority isn’t beyond you?

Are there any other issues you think MASSIVELY affects ALL of our lives in SO MANY WAYS and which permeates ALMOST EVERY ASOECT OF DAILY LIFE in the whole of the WESTERN WORLD? Or is it only Trans with which you are so doggedly obsessed?

I wish I knew which posters were male to female trans and have joined Mumsnet as part of the self-validation of their perceived change to being a woman. There seem to be quite a few posters whose aggression and blindness to women's concerns would suggest that's the case.

I had no idea that actress was trans, I've seen her picture before but wouldn't have been able to tell.

Interestingly (this may have already been raised but can't be arsed reading through 15 pages of Mumsnet frothing), she's voicing Madam Pomfrey in the new Audible full cast Harry Potter.

(other than OP's daughter, or her bored son)

This is about the T. Nobody has said anything about LGB.

And males in dresses are not a 'minority', or marginalised. They are the oppressor and predator sex class. A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.

But I'm not indoctrinated with misogynist, reactionary anti women bigotry, so I know the difference.

Quite easily, in most cases.

Cool a post of mine was deleted. For stating actual facts and science. I quite like that actually tbh.

15 pages of this on Christmas Eve?!? 😭😭😭

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle "Are there any other issues you think MASSIVELY affects ALL of our lives in SO MANY WAYS and which permeates ALMOST EVERY ASPECT OF DAILY LIFE in the whole of the WESTERN WORLD? Or is it only Trans with which you are so doggedly obsessed?"
Women are 50% of human existence. All of us was born from a woman, therefore yes that statement is entirely correct and yes Im not going to shut up about it (and neither is anyone else who has woken up to it) going to shut up until common sense prevails.

Men cannot become women.
Women cannot become men.
Transitioning children is child abuse.

Cross dressing has been a thing for centuries, transgenderism is a modern construct.

The so called trans movement is doggedly obsessed with shouting at women but really really doesnt like us shouting back does it. Funny that.

"A harridan is an old-fashioned term for a bad-tempered unpleasant woman"

If the cap fits...

So feminists are "bad-tempered unpleasant women"... ?

And you really can't see the hateful misogyny?

Edited to add, what do you call bad-tempered unpleasant males who threaten to assault and rape and burn in a grease fire and shoot and curb stomp and skin alive feminists who say no to males? What is the male equivalent of that?

They will still be at it tomorrow. Perhaps we should hand out some sherry and Mince pies to keep their strength up.

Who cares if it's Christmas, there was a Trans woman on the Telly! 🎄

🤣

So, you’re bothered by an actor who is openly trans, playing a supporting role where presumably for the storyline the gender is fairly irrelevant? Why? Would you rather she didn’t get any work at all?

It must be very draining, having to be on such high alert all the time that you’re unable to have some pleasant family time watching a Christmas film with your kids without the presence of someone in it (who has done absolutely nothing wrong) ruining it for you because in your view they are presenting as the “wrong” gender. Probably best you stay away from pantos.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Where does the OP state she was 'bothered'? She asked people how they thought she answered her son's question.

That's all.

No, feminists aren't. But a worrying number of anti trans posters on Mumsnet are

Nah, this is Mumsnet. Not even Christmas is a day off from Real Feminism™

(I genuinely can't imagine thinking trans people are more of a problem than unequal pay and pensions caring responsibilities, the shit state of women's healthcare, domestic violence etc but whatever)