To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

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Watching above with DD17 (lesbian) and DS11 (straight) earlier today. One scene where a female presenting (long hair + fake eyelashes) but clearly biologically male actor plays a doctor (just Dr). DS says "that......lady sounds like a man".

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.

It was so distilled down to me at the point of his very innocent (and tentative so as not to offend question) that I am not prepared to lie to my kid about the fucking fundamentals of life and tell them that person is a woman. Fuck that.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Also FUCK THAT FILM 😭😭😭😭😭

'harridans'

Sure you don't want to throw in 'hysterical' while you're at it? Way to prove our point about anti women misogynistic bigotry!

I think it's pretty obvious, giving the crying emojis, and the post after where the OP was talking about how sad the movie is, that the 'fuck that film' was about it making you sob your heart out!

No, it's about not liking sexism and womanface...

You don't get to re-badge the patriarchy and say misogyny, sexism and womanface is now a-ok because it has a different name.

Should Rachel Dolezal in blackface be cast in a movie?

Yes or no?

Calling out sexism and misogyny is not 'bigoted'. 🙄
Unless you are an MRA.

No where did the OP even hint or suggest that she was "upset" about it. Why create a fake narrative?

'tRaNsPhobiA' 🙄

Or maybe we just aren't femphobic and misogynistic.

And neither am I. I googled the name and from the photos that came up I could clearly see this person is a man.

You really just don't get it do you? You just don't get it.

We don't "hate and fear" 'trans' people (we have no problem with trans men - biological females, that should give you a hint!), we hate and fear fully intact MALES in female spaces where women and girls are vulnerable and in a state of undress, and many of them, like me, are rape survivors. And DV victims and victims of trauma.

It's about MALES. Em ee ay ell ee. Male. Male bodies. Not trans.

Would we be complaining about Rachel Dolezal's 'existence' if we said how wrong blackface is?

Genuine question.

Or is it just trans-people they object to?

Sigh. We object to MALES in womanface. The fact we have no problem with trans men (females), should give you the hint! Should. If you're able to think with critical thinking and think below the surface.

Less than 8% of transwomen get any surgery. It's very rare.

And getting your cock lopped off does not mean you have lived experience as the oppressed female sex. Growing from a girl into a woman, periods, societal sexist expectations, etc. They retain Male Privilege, male socialisation and male lived experience.

I think your attitude that womens rights and LGB rights don't matter is the intolerant attitude.

Aye, because taking men at their word has never, ever gone wrong for women over the centuries, has it? 🙄

He's also a bad actual actor.

Haven't seen that film, though.

Considering even Amnesty International are saying girls in third world countries need single sex toilets to stop period poverty, I would say that women and girls, including rape survivors like me, having the most basic right to a female only space when were are in a state of partial undress and are vulnerable, is VITAL to our participation in society. But I guess you simply don't have the ability to critically think too deeply about it.

Well said, spot on.

I despair at the inability to see past the delusion that men can become women. They can't. It's unintelligent to believe that, not the other way round.

I think someone needs to turn the internet off for the day tbh.

Can't imagine a nice family activity setting me off like this, but I guess I'm just built different*

(*I think it's very weird to speculate about people's genitals!)

I find it very weird that you're bringing peoples genitals into it. Everyone knows what sex they are. Men should respect the law and women's rights to their own sex spaces and stay out of them.

Then I have good news for you. The subject of this thread is a film, which is not any kind of space.

Yes absolutely, but the conversation has covered more than the topic of this film.

No, this is not the 'precise defintion'. For posters who want to see what's actually said, the (LGB)T content is on pp 36-7 of the Statutory Guidance here - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68b8499e11b4ded2da19fd92/Relationships_education__relationships_and_sex_education_and_health_education_-_statutory_guidance.pdf

This

This gets put on every blooming thread. Almost all the posts are 2015-20.

Can you get a more up to date version?