To have not lied to DS about trans actor in Last Christmas?

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Watching above with DD17 (lesbian) and DS11 (straight) earlier today. One scene where a female presenting (long hair + fake eyelashes) but clearly biologically male actor plays a doctor (just Dr). DS says "that......lady sounds like a man".

I said yeah it is a man love. A man who identifies as a sex they are not.

DD paused then typed a wee bit more furiously than usual for 30 secs but then was ok. She knows tbf. She's lesbian and not pan.

It was so distilled down to me at the point of his very innocent (and tentative so as not to offend question) that I am not prepared to lie to my kid about the fucking fundamentals of life and tell them that person is a woman. Fuck that.

Merry Christmas 🍷

Also FUCK THAT FILM 😭😭😭😭😭

Some of you are so naive, thinking that being a trans identifying male who demands acceptance as a woman is anything to do with surgery. They literally maintain that they are women, because inside their heads tells them they are - they are just a slightly different type of woman.

Here is a quote from today, on Reddit:

Women should not be made to use men's toilets just because they were born with a trans body. Cubicles are private, and are designed that no one has to view anyone else's genitals (with the exception of urinals in men's toilets).

People pretending that women who were born trans are somehow an invasion of privacy of women born cis are just dressing up their bigotry as something else.

He didn't ask a question.

Ah, don't you know that this is the most significant issue affecting women, globally? More so than, say, FGM, reproductive rights, violence against women, rape, discrimination, gender based poverty? After all, how can women in Yemen achieve some (e)quality of life if we have trans people? Have you not been on the FWR board (or whatever it's now called)?

No it's not - with the exception of the penultimate 'quote' (and possibly the super creepy never said final one), women say these things to women. Or maybe your circle doesn't include beautiful women who can wear killer heels and have skillfully applied makeup 🤷‍♀️

How can you measure any of those things, or address them, if you can't say what a woman is?

Well. Yes. Exactly.

Oh dear. Did you just say "opposite sex", with regard to trans people? They won't like that.

Sex is a wibbly wobbly spectrum, did you not realise?

As I say, I'm GC, I don't believe in gender woo but at the same time, I am not so bothered by the sight of a man dressed as a woman that I am bothered by seeing one dressed as a cardiologist. I think that trans people need their own spaces, so Isla Bryant and his ilk need not to be in the women's estate. However, some of the people on this thread are almost as extreme as the TRAs.

You don't know that was a transwomen. It could easily have been a man who identifies as a man but decides he likes having long hair and eyelashes.

I think that trans people need their own spaces,

Literal genocide. And you say you're not extreme!

'anTi tRaNs'.

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Well this is as extreme as the TRAs, so really?

https://terfisaslur.com/#jp-carousel-6037

You do realise that when males are in female intimate safe single sex spaces, or in womanface, it affects us? People with Schizophrenia have always existed, too. It doesn't mean we have to laud it.

’he felt being a woman’

therefore woman is defined by a feeling? Sounds like a great lesson to teach an 11yr old boy.

A lot of the "Just #bekind and budge up for the mens, I'm not extreme like you" brigade out today, I see.

Not realising that, in TRAs' eyes, they are extreme like us. Because there can be no leeway, no acknowledging that men aren't women if men say they are.

Is that worse than parroting an anti women agenda on here, a feminist website?

'aNti tRanS'

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I wish people could take a day off from their anti women views...

Or maybe you just haven't considered the issue and the impact on the female sex class below surface level? Since we are intelligent and upstanding, have not even bothered to consider that maybe we have a point on this, too? Or have you closed your mind to that possibility.

Exactly. It's indicative of a very shallow and closed mind.

Yup. It's also anti environment and anti science to say water isn't wet.

It's a reflection and comment on the fact that so many women say that some transwomen are more woman than biological woman.

Yes, some are so gushing and fawning they do actually say this. Especially on social media.

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Started life as a male and will finish life as a male, regardless of how or whether he modifies his body.

’Being someone they are not’ is offensive to women when it turns womanhood into a costume. If it is offensive for a white person to pretend to be black, and to expect to be treated as black by black people, why don’t you consider it offensive to women when a male person to pretends to be a woman, and to expects to be treated as a woman by actual women?

'cesspit' of 'anTi tRaNs'

Unlike the cesspit of anti women you'd prefer it to be?

If you've actually taken any notice, you will see the GC feminist stance is growing far larger on this site (and in society in general). A few years ago, there'd only be a handful of pro-feminists on this thread. Trans Ideology is receding.

I take it you've never heard of Maya Forstater, Allison Bailey, Sandie Peggie? The UK police are a hotbed of anti women misogyny and actually call in women for questioning for even tweeting a perceived 'anti trans' tweet.