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Would you/have you secretly filmed at your child's Nativity?

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Dramatic · 19/12/2025 11:05

So our school has a policy that you aren't allowed to film/take photos at all, total blanket ban. They don't take photos or film themselves either.

My husband works away and never gets to see the plays so I secretly film them/take photos (just my child's part but there are others in the background) and I show the videos to him.

I don't put them on any social media or send them to anyone else, even Grandparents etc.

Aibu?

OP posts:
UsernameAlreadyTaken101 · 19/12/2025 21:01

fandangooo · 19/12/2025 20:48

Ok then. I’m not sure the filming of a nativity will result in a future ASBO but I honestly can’t be arsed to argue anymore.
My take on it is this - OP ignored the rule, she did something she was asked not to and people on MN hate nothing more than entitlement.
But I maintain that if she what’s she’s saying is true and she’s only shown her DH there is no risk here at all. People just don’t like entitlement. Agree with the poster that said you can’t have a balanced debate here. People throwing the word cunt around and insinuating the op is some sort of deviant just because they don’t like the fact that she broke the rules.

Well I've done neither of those things. I can't stand the c word and I don't think she's a deviant. I think she's selfish and lacks understanding of the world around her and the real dire circumstances some children have to endure. And it's far more common than you'd think.
I think your daft ASBO comment shows that you can't take someone else's opinion on board without being sarcastic and snide. Her child will most definitely develop similar attitudes and disregard of the rules if this is typical of her behaviour. That's all I'm saying. I've seen it so many times before having taught for over 20 years.

EasternEcho · 19/12/2025 21:02

Ubertomusic · 19/12/2025 20:35

Doesn't matter, some PP said just a snapshot of a face can be used so the length of a video is irrelevant.

So what's your point? That we shouldn't safeguard where we can? Simply because someone can obtain footage of a child through a doorbell, we should simply leave it all open without mitigating it where we can? And yes, the length does matter to what extent it can be manipulated. That's quite obvious.

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2025 21:05

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 19/12/2025 17:39

No. The school adopts a rule against photos. Fine. As I keep saying, I can see a good reason for that which has nothing to do with safety, it just makes the event more enjoyable for everyone because there are no cameras, phones or iPads being held up.

But that’s nothing to do with consent. There is no right not to be photographed. A parent cannot say “I object because I never consented to my child being photographed.” It’s stupid to try to demand that.

Do you want to test this in court when school has explicitly said "do not film".

You would lose.

Megifer · 19/12/2025 21:06

Yea I did, to show my dying Dad. Absolutely worth breaking the rule to see his face light up for the first time in months.

School changed it a couple of years later to asking not to post to social media but some still ignored it. I think a lot of schools have the rule just to pay lip service and know people will ignore it.

I dont see why people post them on SM. No one else is interested.

whatsit84 · 19/12/2025 21:07

such a bunch of goody two shoes on MN 😂 just film it OP.

Taztoy · 19/12/2025 21:11

whatsit84 · 19/12/2025 21:07

such a bunch of goody two shoes on MN 😂 just film it OP.

How does being a rape victim who is at risk from that man make me a goody two shoes?

RedToothBrush · 19/12/2025 21:18

whatsit84 · 19/12/2025 21:07

such a bunch of goody two shoes on MN 😂 just film it OP.

Hopefully parents like this are banned from all future parent events.

Then all the family miss out and frankly it's touch shit cos safeguarding.

Hohumdedum · 19/12/2025 21:18

Yabu.
The rules do apply to you.
Plus I bet you're not being that surreptitious. I often see people "secretly" doing stuff on their phones at the theatre, and I can tell you from the audience and performer perspective that it is very very obvious, rude and distracting.

Momtotwokids · 19/12/2025 21:21

If you need to secretly film, you shouldn’t do it.

musicinme · 19/12/2025 21:23

whatsit84 · 19/12/2025 21:07

such a bunch of goody two shoes on MN 😂 just film it OP.

I find that a heart breaking comment to read. It has bought tears to my eyes when I think of the huge suffering my foster child endured for years and years, because a parent refused to obey the pleas of the school not to take photos or record. But I accept that, to some, another child's life being at risk, is not as important to a parent as the right to take a photo of their own child.

Ubertomusic · 19/12/2025 21:27

EasternEcho · 19/12/2025 21:02

So what's your point? That we shouldn't safeguard where we can? Simply because someone can obtain footage of a child through a doorbell, we should simply leave it all open without mitigating it where we can? And yes, the length does matter to what extent it can be manipulated. That's quite obvious.

I'm not making any point except stating the obvious fact that 100% protection from ai is simply impossible. How do people on this thread cope with this thought?

AbbaCadaBra · 19/12/2025 21:44

Momtotwokids · 19/12/2025 21:21

If you need to secretly film, you shouldn’t do it.

It just seems such an idiotic thing to be doing. And what exactly does the father see? Presumably the video quality is awful - unless op is a paparazzi with special equipment for covert filming.

JWhipple · 19/12/2025 21:52

Because the other parents (and kids) watching your 'covert' entitled selfish fuckwittery filming don't know it's "not going on social media"

If you saw another parent covertly filming would you think that was ok?
For all you know they're just sharing it with their partner. Who then sent it to his mate who shared it with his dodgy uncle who turns out isn't allowed to have contact with his kids because of domestic abuse and isn't allowed to know where they are.

But technically the parent didn't share it on social media.....

So anyway, the parents and guardians of kids who take loads of precautions every day to keep their kid and maybe themself safe from a person that may harm them, sees some twat sneakily videoing them....

What if everyone is covertly filming? Do you think teachers have got nothing better to do than police the behaviour of numpties who can't follow a basic rule?

If your partner is so desperate to see a nativity you're willing to show you basically don't give a fuck about the feelings of others, maybe he could just get a couple of hours off work next year. I know. It's a crazy idea.

You're a selfish twunt but the main thing is you find a comment that agrees with your selfishness.

HRTQueen · 19/12/2025 21:58

Yes YABU

the school has asked for no photos and filming

end of

there are no exceptions many parents miss out seeing their child/childrens Nativity play

Cosyblankets · 19/12/2025 22:00

Dramatic · 19/12/2025 14:37

The phone was inside my coat sort of underneath my scarf, hard to describe but it wasn't visible to anyone else

That doesn't answer how you managed to film only your child

usedtobeaylis · 19/12/2025 22:02

I don't tend to get worked up about it but I do think it's very poor. Those policies exist for a reason, and that reason isn't to ruin your fun. Its not about you at all but you made yourself the centre of it.

usedtobeaylis · 19/12/2025 22:04

The constant need to be photographing and videoing in the first place is beyond ridiculous anyway.

StrongandNorthern · 19/12/2025 22:04

Tell him to book the time off.

TappyGilmore · 19/12/2025 22:05

This is absolutely not okay. My DD does a lot of shows, at school and at an outside of school activity. Some of them allow photos and videos, some don’t. If they don’t allow it then it is not okay to do it. It doesn’t matter what the reason for the ban is, if they’ve told you not to then don’t.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/12/2025 22:10

whatsit84 · 19/12/2025 21:07

such a bunch of goody two shoes on MN 😂 just film it OP.

So you think safeguarding at-risk children is something you can ignore and laugh about, @whatsit84. It doesn’t matter if a child at risk of being snatched by the violent parent they’ve been taken from, has to move school again or even move to a different foster home, as long as you get your video and pictures. What a truly caring individual you aren’t.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/12/2025 22:13

Ubertomusic · 19/12/2025 21:27

I'm not making any point except stating the obvious fact that 100% protection from ai is simply impossible. How do people on this thread cope with this thought?

Yes, 100% protection isn’t possible, @Ubertomusic - but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do the things that are do-able that will improve the protection vulnerable children get.

A seatbelt will not prevent death in 100% of car crashes - but we still think seatbelts are a good idea, because they dramatically reduce the risk of death or serious injury in a crash.

adviceneeded1990 · 19/12/2025 22:14

Dramatic · 19/12/2025 19:43

He's in prison, but we will be hiding from him when he is released. I can understand not posting it on SM but I'd be happy for people to film as long as they didn't put it on SM

But if you’re in a school of 300-400 how is there any way for that to be policed other than a blanket ban?!

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 19/12/2025 22:19

Dramatic · 19/12/2025 11:14

What are the chances of someone hacking/stealing my phone and then releasing that one specific video to the person who is a threat to another child?

Being blunt...

Any films that can escape onto social media run the risk of :

  1. Child abduction :as dodgy abusive father who is banned from seeing the kid, now realises their kid is at St Mary's primary in the next county.
  1. Kids can be targeted... For dodgy blokes (mostly) to pretend they know the parents and groom the kids.
  1. Paedos use them as images to masturbate to...

When I worked in services, all three happened... Vile, but true sadly

adviceneeded1990 · 19/12/2025 22:20

musicinme · 19/12/2025 21:23

I find that a heart breaking comment to read. It has bought tears to my eyes when I think of the huge suffering my foster child endured for years and years, because a parent refused to obey the pleas of the school not to take photos or record. But I accept that, to some, another child's life being at risk, is not as important to a parent as the right to take a photo of their own child.

Got to get that “my kids are my world” video content though - never mind safeguarding them, (or even feeding or clothing or protecting them from addiction and abuse in many cases) because school and foster carers and social workers and family support workers etc will do that for them. I honestly despair of people and their compulsive need to film things at the expense of children like the ones you care for. Lives ruined for the sake of a video.

Ubertomusic · 19/12/2025 22:23

AnonymousAdopter · 19/12/2025 16:05

it seems to me many people on this thread aren't aware of reverse image searching.
My adopted DC looked so much like a birth relative I think you could have put in a photo of relative and come up with DC had they been online.
If this was on a photo tagged X Primary nativity then simple. Even if not tagged it takes one reference on the related facebook to the school and you have the school located.

Google Images won't let you search people.

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