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ireallycantbelievethis · 2025-12-16T18:48:31+00:00

Paul Doyle, the Liverpool parade attacker, has been sentenced to twenty one years and six months in prison for his attack that injured 134 people. That’s 258 months, or less than two months per person injured. He’ll be out in half, so 129 months served. Less than one month per person. Reading the victim impact statements was awful. One from a little boy, who is completely traumatised, stuck with me. AIBU to think this is a farce?!

Aplycrumbly · 17/12/2025 16:07

Netcurtainnelly · 17/12/2025 14:17

Wonder if he'd have liked it if someone did the same to him knocked him down.

Vile tempered Cuss.
How on earth can a person on this planet do that to other people who have done nothing to.him at all. Totally innocent enjoying their day.
Makes you wonder what he would do if someone really annoyed him.

I know, I always say I can be grumpy sometimes and might utter a sigh or mutter under my breath in crowds, regarding some people’s lack of awareness for their surroundings ie. Other people - but I can’t imagine having and acting on this level of rage!!

I hope one of the true crime podcasts cover this, I’d be interested in hearing more about his background and childhood and adult life etc. Something is very wrong here.

Locutus2000 · 17/12/2025 16:17

SwingTheMonkey · 17/12/2025 10:57

I find OP’s comments rather worrying regarding Doyle’s family. Seems like the sort of person who would seek out the family and harass them. Perhaps we have a duty to report you to the authorities, op?

I thought Doyle’s sentence was fair. Years ago I knew someone who was murdered in an unprovoked attack. The person he was with also suffered life changing injuries. The offender got 9 years. And served a concurrent sentence for the attempted murder. He didn’t serve his full sentence.

I find OP’s comments rather worrying regarding Doyle’s family. Seems like the sort of person who would seek out the family and harass them. Perhaps we have a duty to report you to the authorities, op?

This is what they do. Start/jump on inflammatory threads then do everything they can to whip up anger. It's deeply sad.

PaterPower · 17/12/2025 16:46

I was slightly surprised that it was as long as it was, given that I’ve seen some murderers and many rapists get less.

That’s not to say it was too long - more an argument for stiffer sentences for the other categories.

Roobarbtwo · 17/12/2025 17:07

The judge explained the sentence as he was giving it. There's a video online. He was charged with 31 separate offences - that's why the sentence is long.

It would have been 24 years but for the guilty plea

DdraigGoch · 17/12/2025 17:47

Roobarbtwo · 16/12/2025 21:34

My point was that you suggested that it was a long sentence. It was clearly a long sentence for a reason - htfh

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Violence acts where a motor vehicle is used as the weapon often get the light touch so it's a welcome change to see something a bit stiffer.

DdraigGoch · 17/12/2025 20:32

BeardofHagrid · 16/12/2025 22:45

The crowd was full of violent people who smashed his back windows and were kicking lumps out of his car. No wonder he snapped.

I know of a woman who drowned her child in the bath, she got four years. Huw Edwards got nothing for his horrific crimes! The judges just make up whatever they feel like.

Do you write for The Sun?

Netcurtainnelly · 17/12/2025 21:55

FiredFromACannon · 16/12/2025 23:02

It sounds like he was in an uncontrollable rage, and he had form for having a short temper and violent outbursts. Perhaps he’d been able to keep it under control fo a long time but if that’s the way you’re wired you probably can’t keep it under control forever. I think the sentence is about right.

As an aside I once got stuck in my car on a road outside a football stadium just as the fans started coming out, the road was suddenly filled with people banging on the car and shouting, it was terrifying, I shut the engine off and waited for them to all pass. It sounds like he was already in a rage an couldn’t control himself.

If he does that to people who have done nothing to him, what on earth does he do to anyone that's a tually wronged him.

Nobody cares about him apart from perhaps his family.

Netcurtainnelly · 17/12/2025 21:58

wineosaurusrex · 16/12/2025 23:15

Even if his wife had noticed his rage issues, what was she meant to do? Go to the police (who barely bother to turn up to reports of actual crimes these days), and insist that they should intervene because her husband hadn't done anything but might at some point?!

Or get him mental health support to learn to manage his rage issues? Obviously the UK is a country with a crumbling health system and almost zero adequate mental health support available for the majority of the population. Perhaps if he had been able to access MH support he could have been able to learn to deal with rage episodes. So many crimes recently committed by people who are in absolutely desperate need to the MH support and intervention that is basically impossible to access in the UK.

There is NO justification whatsoever for you to blame his wife or family. Women are never responsible for the violence of men. HTH.

He didnt need mh support. He had a foul temper which he choose not to control.
Everyone has a choice.

He knew he was doing wrong.
Would he like it done to him?

bittertwisted · 17/12/2025 22:02

Kingscallops · 17/12/2025 12:43

Wonder if you're so incensed about the Bondi beach murderers. You know, the scum who actually killed people. Or maybe the Manchester thugs who broke a policecwoman's nose. Why am I sensing some bias here. Selective outrage.

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Outrage does tend to intensify when you are personally involved
my 3 boys were there that day, I am from Liverpool, I am a lifelong LFC supporter
don’t you dare belittle my outrage

Roobarbtwo · 17/12/2025 23:55

bittertwisted · 17/12/2025 22:02

Outrage does tend to intensify when you are personally involved
my 3 boys were there that day, I am from Liverpool, I am a lifelong LFC supporter
don’t you dare belittle my outrage

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The OP wasn't personally involved as far as I'm aware

sashh · 18/12/2025 05:50

I can't find the post about him coming out in time to retire. His retirement will not be comfortable, It's not that simple. He won't be getting NI credit in prison so his state pension will be limited. Who knows if he has a private pension but he won't be paying in to that either.

I doubt he can return to Liverpool, he will not be welcome.

He will probably end up in a studio or one bedroomed council flat in a tower block somewhere.

nocoolnamesleft · 18/12/2025 21:05

sashh · 18/12/2025 05:50

I can't find the post about him coming out in time to retire. His retirement will not be comfortable, It's not that simple. He won't be getting NI credit in prison so his state pension will be limited. Who knows if he has a private pension but he won't be paying in to that either.

I doubt he can return to Liverpool, he will not be welcome.

He will probably end up in a studio or one bedroomed council flat in a tower block somewhere.

Probably more likely to end up on the streets.

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2025 15:07

xmasstress12 · 16/12/2025 21:16

I thought the sentence was pretty strong since people kill people with their cars and get incredibly light sentences if a sentence at all.

There was a guy recently who drove into three cyclists, injuring two and killing one - and the jury acquitted him! I accept they heard all the evidence but I find it difficult to accept that he walked away scot-free. One wonders what the verdict would have been if a cyclist had ridden into three pedestrians on a country lane and one of them had died.

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2025 15:09

Roobarbtwo · 16/12/2025 22:46

He was 54 when this happened so potentially the mortgage has been paid off. If not - I assume they'll have to sell and downsize

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Probably make sense to move and use her maiden name.

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2025 15:12

sittingonabeach · 16/12/2025 22:52

If you accidentally drove into a road that was closed and full of people, wouldn't you just stop, or ask people to help you reverse to get out of the way, not carry on going trying to ram people and then driving straight at them

Yes that was my thinking too. To get so angry is just weird given he was going there to collect people so he knew it would be busy. He might have had form for being (really) angry but it was 30 years ago.

I wonder if we'll hear he's died of a brain tumour or something in a year's time. Although I wonder if they'd scan someone's brain in this sort of instance. If they find nothing, well he's just an angry man who needs locking away from the rest of us. But I do think it's a very strange case.

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2025 15:16

Misanthropologie · 17/12/2025 12:17

It does not take much to enrage a jerk in an SUV in a hurry.

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Indeed. They genuinely think they've got more right to be on the road than anyone else. The issue being there are rather a lot of SUV drivers now so who gets priority ;) I don't mean to be flippant in such an awful case but loads of people drive in a crazy way. But even they won't deliberately drive into a crowd of people.

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2025 15:18

Flowerslamp · 17/12/2025 12:33

Yes, even with much lesser crimes, I think most of us abstain more for fear of getting caught/ the shame of it all, than becuase we really can't bear to do wrong.

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I agree. But I know there have been threads about shoplifting on here and lots of sanctimonious people they would never do it Because It's Wrong.

I call bollox - they don't do it because they don't want to get caught and be thought to be a thief by people they know, aside from any punishment. I'd lay a bet that they still speed and park where they shouldn't, but that's apparently fine.

Flowerslamp · 20/12/2025 15:19

dynamiccactus · 20/12/2025 15:16

Indeed. They genuinely think they've got more right to be on the road than anyone else. The issue being there are rather a lot of SUV drivers now so who gets priority ;) I don't mean to be flippant in such an awful case but loads of people drive in a crazy way. But even they won't deliberately drive into a crowd of people.

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Except in this case it was Ford Galaxy, which is a people carried and one of the most boring cars on the road.