To be concerned about a war?

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Woke up this morning opened my SM and first posts I see are about a basically inevitably pending war with Russia. It’s the first I’ve heard of it. Sir Richard Knighton said the threat needs to be taken seriously and “called for greater honesty with uk families about what it means to prepare for the very real threat to national security”. He also said security situation is more dangerous than it has been at any point in his career and the UK can no longer rely on military forces alone to keep security safe. Finally the comment of “sons and daughters must be prepared to fight” it would take a “whole nation effort” and “families would have to face real sacrifice”

i mean wtaf? I certainly won’t be rushing to the frontline that’s for sure. What’s going on? Very concerned

Grim as fuck. It’s being spoken of far too frequently at the moment, more than I can ever remember in recent times anyway. Whether anything comes of it we’ll have to wait and see. A National Service for all of the youth of today could be a good thing though so I’m not against that aspect but it must be mandatory for all irrespective of religious beliefs and as long as your are physically capable.

As a menopausal woman, I'd fight - I've certainly got the right attitude for it 😆

I wouldn't want my kids to fight, because them coming to harm is my worst nightmare, but I would personally if needed.

I get the young are fitter and more agile, but surely the healthy middle aged have advantages. I'd like to think we're more cunning and wily at least. Calmer under pressure. Some of us presumably are very fit.

But I don't like the idea of sacrificing kids to a war started by grown ups.

I don’t worry about it because there is pretty much nothing I can do about it, but it does seem pretty much inevitable. He’s playing Trump into next week and he’s not going to stop with Ukraine. People need to wise up.

I've not heard anything about Russia for ages, have you got any links? I had (maybe naively) assumed things were calming down a little bit.

All the Russians would need to do is sabotage our water/ electricity supply and we’d be F’d anyway. Look at the petrol crisis we had. It’s can’t see war happening like WW2.
and you won’t need to rush to the front line, if there’s conscription then you won’t have a choice anyway.

It’s covered on any news outlets.

🤣🤣🤣🤣. That made me laugh.

it’s very very concerning. I’m not one to worry about things like this usually but if it’s going to happen I’ll be considering moving abroad

I assure you I would not be fighting.

"Russia has repeatedly tried to persuade Ukraine’s supporters and the wider world that its victory in Ukraine is inevitable. Despite sustained aggression and significant investment of personnel and resources, Russia has made only marginal territorial gains since its full-scale invasion in February 2022. After nearly four years since its illegal invasion, Russia controls less than 20% of Ukrainian territory. This is up from the 7% it claimed to control before February 2022. Since the frontlines stabilised in November 2022, Russia has gained just 1.1% more territory, at the cost of over one million casualties."

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/russias-narrative-of-inevitable-victory-is-contradicted-by-its-military-and-economic-failures-uk-statement-to-the-osce

“We suffer more in imagination than in reality”

This is something that needs to be remembered as that’s where Putin’s power really lies - in making others scared. He doesn’t need to do anything except cause anxiety and maybe a little disruption.

Oh no! Does it mean we have to stockpile toilet paper again?

I can tell you what "families would need to face real sacrifice" means as my family are in one of the European countries who seems to believe they are personally at war with Russia. All societal structures have been dismantled and all money is being syphoned towards non-existent war efforts. Poverty, collapse of healthcare and ever-increasing bills under the ideological guise of "war". That's what it means. Basically, business as usual.

All this ‘I/my son/my dog wouldn’t be fighting, over my dead body’ is irrelevant as you’d been forced to by law, with the punishments for non compliance being worse than actually doing it. The whole point is that it’s mandatory.

They've been prepping us for the potential for war for the last couple of years. Remarks from the Chief of Defence Staff isn't candour it's strategy. It will happen when they decide its time and there is nothing we can do about it. Putin has been sold as Hitler for the 21st century so our government can proceed to sending our young people to die without any attempt at diplomacy.

It’s not the major headline on three new sites that I’ve just checked, which I find reassuring for some reason.
But this was just someone speaking at an event - they weren’t issuing a directive or addressing government - so try and see it in context. Making war is what this chap does - or defending anyway.

I’m not trying to say there isn’t any risk or danger - what do I know? But life as we know it will just keep trundling on.

Edited to say - reading previous posts, I may be downplaying it too much. But I don’t see the need for scaring posters at this point.

Where abroad? If the worst case scenario happens nowhere in the world is going to be unaffected.

Just like in the cold war it is unlikely to come to fighting in the streets but that is only because goverments/diplomats are taking active steps to prevent it. All European politicians are talking about the increased possibility and the need to ensure that our military are ready and that we don't rely on Russia for anything.

With respect, I couldnt care less about the law. In a few situations actually, but this one in particular.

It’s the limbo I hate. But as a PP just pointed out, live in fear and they win.

I can’t imagine how it would look though

News* not new

My first thought is that my 18 year old daughter is in the armed forces as it has been her ambition to do so since she was very young, and if this does happen she will be one of the first to fight. It makes my stomach drop to think of it. I don’t know how realistic the prospect of war actually is, I have very poor mental health at the best of times so avoid the news and such.

Apologies I’m not trying to frighten anybody. As I say, it’s not something I’m usually worried about or that I think about. Just this particular statement has rattled me.

Thanks, I needed to hear that x

What punishment could be worse than fighting and dying in a war??

The only fight would be a moral one against being part of a war. Everyone should resist any attempt to be dragged into war.

I’m not sure, I’d have lots of options I guess. Where might you suggest?

Middle East? Spain? I’m not overly clued up on what countries would be involved

I also avoid the news which is why this is the first I’m hearing of it. I’m sorry about your daughter, but how brave of her. You should be really proud x

The media are just trying to scare us , I don’t think there’s a cause for real concern. Putin has always been simmering away and comes across in a way that can cause alarm and he plays on that.

If anything did happen which is highly unlikely the best action is no action. Be peaceful and refuse to be dragged into violence and war.