To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

[LucyWestenra]

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

Few people criticize Cadice here. Those people havent really listened to her talking about why she has those opinions. Just listen to it and than make your judgement, or even better , prove her wrong.

I think we’ve found one of the 20%.

She's wrong. HTH.

And Candice has those opinions because she's an unhinged publicity seeking antisemite who's making money and a career out of pushing unhinged antisemitic conspiracy theories.

And "disproving" her is a pointless exercise because the people who lap up that sort of crap are not actually interested in a reality check. Hence the futility of posting anything on the CITME board.

@Susan7654

The fact that she calls out Israeli government doesnt make her anti- jewish. She calls out USA governement too- and it doesnt mean she is anti american.

Jewish people dont like what she says about Israeli governemnt and call her antisemitic. That is not fair and twisted logic.
I am not supporting her but I love history and beeing accurate with facts.

Jewish people, and others, call her antisemitic because she says things like "Jewish people hate black people" and "Jewish people were in control of the slave trade" and "The only reoson Jewish people are in pornography is because Christ sucks" and "The idea that Mengele did experiments on Jewish people is bizarre propaganda" and that a Rabbi is "drunk on Christian blood".

That's shocking

MMHQ have deleted your antisemitic post, "Susan", but if I were you I'd ask them to do you a further favour and delete this one too. It's beyond embarrassing.

Yep. I've largely given up on CITME.

It was implied to me there years ago that anybody who went against the general CITME tide was a paid shill.

I'm still waiting for my cheque...

I going to attempt (probably quite badly) as to why there is rising anti semitism both in the UK and the West:

It is a combination of two unlikely groups coming together:

1. Anti semitism amongst the UK Muslim population, more prevalent amongst the 18-34 age group, university educated and female populations.

For example 25% do not believe that 7th October attack by Hamas was real despite video evidence by Hamas itself of the attack.

Half of British Muslims believe that Jews have too much power over British Government policy.

https://henryjacksonsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/HJS-Deck-200324-Final.pdf

2. The left predominantly 18-34 and female. The left since Marx has always viewed issues through the lens of an oppressor and the oppressed or bourgeoisie and proletariat. The stronger side regardless of how the conflict came about is always the oppressor. So in the case of Israel then because it a) retaliated (as most countries would done) and more importantly b) is the stronger of the two sides then automatically they are the oppressors. interestingly in 1948 when Israel was attacked by its stronger surrounding Arab neighbours then Israel was the darling of the left. However once they became the stronger side they became the enemy of the left. RT

Oh yes I've been accused of that.

I've also been accused of being an apprentice to another pro Israel poster on the board.

Some of them have very vivid imaginations ...

Just trying to catch up but what on earth is this????!

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How it was anysemitic? Explain please

That’s part of what makes it so shocking. They seem normal and nice. Until you find out they’re not.

This.

She really has said all of those things and so much more, I don't know how you can have missed it.

Admittedly I think the part about a Rabbi being drunk on Christian blood is from a post she liked. But the rest are things she has said.

"Susan" is trying that approach where someone oh so reasonably asks us why a blatant antisemite is antisemitic, or why their posts complaining about Jews taking offence at antisemitism are antisemitic.

It's disingenuous filibustering time wasting that pushes the pertinent responses further off the page so Susan can more easily ignore them.

If you email Mumsnet they will explain to you why they deleted your post.

You might find the narrative of this thread (!!!) unpalatable, but life is too short to waste on explaining why someone like Candace Owens is quite obviously stark raving bonkers. I mean, it's not even disputed in the normal world. If you enjoy her content, "you do you" as they say on MN, but I'm not sure why you're posting here of all places.

"Candace Owens has made numerous controversial and widely condemned statements about Jews, which critics, including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the organization StopAntisemitism, have described as antisemitic. Her comments led to her departure from the conservative media outlet The Daily Wire in March 2024."

"Her statements and actions have included:
Holocaust minimization and denial: She has questioned the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust and referred to Nazi medical experiments as "bizarre propaganda". In 2018, she said, "If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. The problem is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany," a comment for which she faced significant backlash.
Promotion of antisemitic conspiracy theories: Owens has repeatedly pushed various conspiracy theories, including claims that "secret Jewish gangs" control Hollywood, that a "cabal" of Jews were behind the assassinations of historical figures like the Russian Czar, and that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) was involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy."

"Bizarre propaganda" just wow.....how disgusting.