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To think that antisemitism now needs to be tackled in the strongest possible way?

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LucyWestenra · 15/12/2025 11:30

The Bondi thread in chat was eye opening.

Forty pages and a lot of it whataboutery, excuses and vile antisemitism.

It’s disgusting.

It needs to be called out. It needs to be rooted out.

I feel so sorry for the Jewish communities everywhere. How can they possibly feel safe?

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Greenpeanutsnail · 21/12/2025 19:34

Unfortunately there are also some, even if they believe that the Holocaust was real, they take the view that it was a long time ago and people should be over it by now.

Not my view, obviously. I had at least 40 relatives murdered in the Holocaust.

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/12/2025 19:58

Greenpeanutsnail · 21/12/2025 19:34

Unfortunately there are also some, even if they believe that the Holocaust was real, they take the view that it was a long time ago and people should be over it by now.

Not my view, obviously. I had at least 40 relatives murdered in the Holocaust.

The Holocaust must never be forgotten ❤️

Tiredboymum22 · 21/12/2025 21:29

Have you seen Candace Owens’ latest podcast?

3.2 m views! Straight from Goebbel’s playbook! So many comments agreeing with her too.

I personally know people who listen to her. People I thought were sensible.

Lindos1 · 21/12/2025 22:12

Tiredboymum22
Agree. I clicked on a Candace Owen short just before bed last night (why God, why?).
It was absolutely rancid. Telling black Americans to wake up & recognise their enemy isn't the white man, but 'Jews'. I could hardly believe what I was hearing. This is off the scale. Evil.
Couldn't sleep for hours, just thinking about this, & so many views & comments in agreement.
I'm not Jewish- I've got absolutely no idea what to do, & how to help.
It's like being stuck in a terrible nightmare. Feel so helpless.

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 00:00

Tiredboymum22 · 21/12/2025 21:29

Have you seen Candace Owens’ latest podcast?

3.2 m views! Straight from Goebbel’s playbook! So many comments agreeing with her too.

I personally know people who listen to her. People I thought were sensible.

She's gone nuts. Why does she get air time?

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 08:01

Lindos1 · 21/12/2025 22:12

Tiredboymum22
Agree. I clicked on a Candace Owen short just before bed last night (why God, why?).
It was absolutely rancid. Telling black Americans to wake up & recognise their enemy isn't the white man, but 'Jews'. I could hardly believe what I was hearing. This is off the scale. Evil.
Couldn't sleep for hours, just thinking about this, & so many views & comments in agreement.
I'm not Jewish- I've got absolutely no idea what to do, & how to help.
It's like being stuck in a terrible nightmare. Feel so helpless.

Why is that allowed? Why are people still allowed to spread hatred like that?

MsGinaLinetti · 22/12/2025 08:05

Free speech
which needs countering with speech
the hate marches calling for intifada however, are clearly subject to softer policing than other movements and the msm needs to more accurately reflect the situation rather than pandering to anti western rhetoric

MsGinaLinetti · 22/12/2025 08:24

Also OP YANBU

MaturingCheeseball · 22/12/2025 08:30

It beats me. Are authorities for Islamists, just after their votes, or afraid of their power? I don’t understand why middle-class people have latched onto the cause and are eagerly demonising any Jewish people.

Looking at Christmas markets, for example, why are we all over Europe just shrugging about bollards and concrete blocks. A dog-walking acquaintance has just returned from a Christmas market trip to Germany. They said it was depressing - cages to walk through, armed police and Palestine flags. A lot of the stalls were shut up. Previously they said at that market there were oompah bands and a very jolly atmosphere. But we all roll over and skirt round the problem.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 08:33

MaturingCheeseball · 22/12/2025 08:30

It beats me. Are authorities for Islamists, just after their votes, or afraid of their power? I don’t understand why middle-class people have latched onto the cause and are eagerly demonising any Jewish people.

Looking at Christmas markets, for example, why are we all over Europe just shrugging about bollards and concrete blocks. A dog-walking acquaintance has just returned from a Christmas market trip to Germany. They said it was depressing - cages to walk through, armed police and Palestine flags. A lot of the stalls were shut up. Previously they said at that market there were oompah bands and a very jolly atmosphere. But we all roll over and skirt round the problem.

This. We do roll over and not deal with the problem. Is it fear of being called racist? A bit like ignoring the grooming gangs? Its stupid allowing the situation to grow.

Lindos1 · 22/12/2025 09:04

What is very noticeable is how most of the Western leaders use the same playbook after terrorist attacks.
It was the gun/knife/car. The far- right is the biggest threat. Diversity is our strength. Nothing to see here.
Then go after the people pointing out & objecting to the problems.
And do absolutely nothing to combat the threat.
We cannot hate our leaders enough, in my opinion.

MsGinaLinetti · 22/12/2025 09:16

It's baffling and deeply disturbing @MaturingCheeseball

wyrmsworkd · 22/12/2025 11:10

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Nine2five · 22/12/2025 12:17

I was on Bondi beach yesterday. We couldn’t view the main shrine of flowers because the area was roped off for the private gathering of victims/family members and the pm Albanese which was taking place later in the day.

We did however witness the many, many heart broken members of the public who were still arriving all day with bouquets and cards in memory of the fallen victims and placing them by the beach wall

it was raw, it was heartbreaking, it was shocking and it was something I will never forget.

Today, we walked down George street in Sydney CBD and unbelievably the usual Palestinian supporting morons were out in force waving their stupid flags. It beggars belief it really does.

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 12:37

Jews form 0.5% of the UK population in England and Wales. Many leaders simply don't think it's worth trying to protect them or their interests because they don't have the numbers.

Today, we walked down George street in Sydney CBD and unbelievably the usual Palestinian supporting morons were out in force waving their stupid flags. It beggars belief it really does.

Completely believable. They were at it while October 7 was still happening and Israel hadn't begun any response yet, they were at it right after the Manchester attack. But did they say anything about Hamas shooting Gazans in the head when the ceasefire was announced? Do they say anything about Hamas embedding itself under schools and hospitals and using aid money to fund tunnels and terror? Do they ever call on Hamas to disarm and surrender and start working towards a two state solution under other Arab leaders? Do they fuck.

And then they claim moral superiority and pretend they care about preserving life.

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 12:41

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I'm not.

SisterTeatime · 22/12/2025 14:00

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 12:37

Jews form 0.5% of the UK population in England and Wales. Many leaders simply don't think it's worth trying to protect them or their interests because they don't have the numbers.

Today, we walked down George street in Sydney CBD and unbelievably the usual Palestinian supporting morons were out in force waving their stupid flags. It beggars belief it really does.

Completely believable. They were at it while October 7 was still happening and Israel hadn't begun any response yet, they were at it right after the Manchester attack. But did they say anything about Hamas shooting Gazans in the head when the ceasefire was announced? Do they say anything about Hamas embedding itself under schools and hospitals and using aid money to fund tunnels and terror? Do they ever call on Hamas to disarm and surrender and start working towards a two state solution under other Arab leaders? Do they fuck.

And then they claim moral superiority and pretend they care about preserving life.

Posters on MN defended Hamas shooting citizens in the head.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 14:15

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 12:37

Jews form 0.5% of the UK population in England and Wales. Many leaders simply don't think it's worth trying to protect them or their interests because they don't have the numbers.

Today, we walked down George street in Sydney CBD and unbelievably the usual Palestinian supporting morons were out in force waving their stupid flags. It beggars belief it really does.

Completely believable. They were at it while October 7 was still happening and Israel hadn't begun any response yet, they were at it right after the Manchester attack. But did they say anything about Hamas shooting Gazans in the head when the ceasefire was announced? Do they say anything about Hamas embedding itself under schools and hospitals and using aid money to fund tunnels and terror? Do they ever call on Hamas to disarm and surrender and start working towards a two state solution under other Arab leaders? Do they fuck.

And then they claim moral superiority and pretend they care about preserving life.

THIS 100% and more and more people see them for what they are.

SoulSearchBeHonest · 22/12/2025 14:18

SisterTeatime · 22/12/2025 14:00

Posters on MN defended Hamas shooting citizens in the head.

Yes I recall someone saying it was because they said they were 'collaborators with Israel'. Imagine being a person who thinks it is OK to shoot a citizen in the head for going against Hamas. That's a particular low, but there are many other lows.

The hate marchers seem to love going for lows too. Pictures of Para-shooters on the backs of the delightful hate (they say peace) marchers, after Hamas and other terrorists came in on parachutes to rape and murder people.

Attacking a man who dared to hold a sign against Hamas - unbelievable but there you go. Deluded and much more that mere useful idiots.

converseandjeans · 22/12/2025 14:22

Lindos1 · 21/12/2025 22:12

Tiredboymum22
Agree. I clicked on a Candace Owen short just before bed last night (why God, why?).
It was absolutely rancid. Telling black Americans to wake up & recognise their enemy isn't the white man, but 'Jews'. I could hardly believe what I was hearing. This is off the scale. Evil.
Couldn't sleep for hours, just thinking about this, & so many views & comments in agreement.
I'm not Jewish- I've got absolutely no idea what to do, & how to help.
It's like being stuck in a terrible nightmare. Feel so helpless.

@Lindos1 I just looked at Candace on X & was shocked that she was writing such divisive content. I know she often puts opinions out there but this is whipping up black people into a rage saying they were all prolific slave traders. I don’t think we should be held responsible for the actions of our ancestors. Otherwise how do you ever move on from things like WW2? We have learned to get along with the Germans for example.

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 14:46

SisterTeatime · 22/12/2025 14:00

Posters on MN defended Hamas shooting citizens in the head.

It's a fucking death cult.

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 14:57

SisterTeatime · 22/12/2025 14:00

Posters on MN defended Hamas shooting citizens in the head.

Why would anyone in their right mind do that? Seriously, don't they realise that Hamas is the enemy and don't have Palestinians welfare at heart?

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 15:00

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 14:57

Why would anyone in their right mind do that? Seriously, don't they realise that Hamas is the enemy and don't have Palestinians welfare at heart?

Well, obviously Hamas do something else that these people place far above the safety and wellbeing of the Gazans, despite what they so performatively and self-righteously claim.

I wonder what it is.

HappyFace2025 · 22/12/2025 15:03

ThatCyanCat · 22/12/2025 15:00

Well, obviously Hamas do something else that these people place far above the safety and wellbeing of the Gazans, despite what they so performatively and self-righteously claim.

I wonder what it is.

Yes I wonder too but have a pretty good idea of course.